Johnny Sorrow

I'm half way through disc 6, but I figured I should start posting my lists. Take into account that I've never been much of a "rating matches" type guy, and my choices are based totally on what entertained me the most, usually after getting tight. Disc One: 1.Jerry Lawler vs. Terry Funk (Empty Arena) (4/6/81) 2.Jerry Lawler vs. Terry Funk (No DQ) (3/23/81) 3.Jerry Lawler vs. Crusher Blackwell (5/4/81) 4.Bill Dundee & Dream Machine vs. Kevin Sullivan & Wayne Farris (5/2/81) 5.Bill Dundee vs. Wayne Farris & Tojo Yamamoto (3/7/81) 6.Bill Dundee & Dream Machine vs. Dutch Mantell & Wayne Farris (3/14/81) 7.Bill Dundee vs. Tommy Rich (8/23/80) 8.Bill Dundee & Tommy Rich vs. Dutch Mantell & Austin Idol (3/12/81) 9.Bill Dundee vs. Larry Latham (4/19/80) 10.Ricky Morton vs. Sonny King (4/26/80) 11.Bill Dundee & Tony Boyles vs. Wayne Farris & Larry Latham 12.Dutch Mantell vs. Kevin Sullivan (5/9/81) 13.Jerry Lawler vs. Dory Funk Jr. (3/30/81) 14.Bill Dundee vs. Paul Ellering (5/24/80) Disc 2: 1.Ricky Morton & Eddie Gilbert vs. Masa Fuchi & Atsushi Onita (Tupelo Concession Stand Brawl) (9/4/81) 2.Jerry Lawler vs. Dutch Mantell (Barbed Wire Match) (3/29/82) 3.Bobby Eaton & Sweet Brown Sugar vs. Dutch Mantell & King Cobra (7/19/82) 4.Jerry Lawler vs. Ric Flair (8/14/82) 5.Jerry Lawler vs. Dutch Mantell (No DQ) (3/22/82) 6.Bill Dundee vs. Bobby Eaton (7/24/82) 7.Jerry Lawler vs. Dutch Mantell (Loser Leaves Town) (3/27/82) 8.Bill Dundee vs. Sweet Brown Sugar (2/3 falls, Scaffold Match) (6/21/82) 9.Bill Dundee, Steve Keirn, Rick & Robert Gibson vs. Dream Machine, Nightmare #1 & Heartbreakers (7/25/81) 10.Jerry Lawler & Bill Dundee vs. Masa Fuchi & Atsushi Onita (8/1/81) 11.Masa Fuchi, Atsushi Onita & Tojo Yamamoto vs. Roy Rogers, Rick & Robert Gibson (9/5/81) 12.Stan Lane & Koko Ware vs. Eddie Gilbert & Ricky Morton (No DQ, 2/3 Falls) (10/81) Disc 3: 1.Jerry Lawler vs. Nick Bockwinkel (No DQ) (11/8/82) 2.Jerry Lawler vs. Nick Bockwinkel (10/18/82) 3.Bill Dundee & Bobby Fulton vs. Bobby Eaton & Sweet Brown Sugar (11/15/82) 4.Jackie Fargo vs. Jimmy Hart (11/8/82) 5.Jerry Lawler vs. Nick Bockwinkel (10/25/82) 6.Jerry Lawler, Bill Dundee, Dutch Mantell & Terry Taylor vs. Bobby Eaton, Sweet Brown Sugar, Rick McGraw & Sabu (12/4/82) 7.Ronnie Garvin vs. Randy Savage (Cage Match) (ICW 1982/83) 8.Fabulous Ones vs. The New York Dolls (2/3 Falls) (11/13/82) 9.New York Dolls vs. Steve Regal & Spike Huber (10/4/82) 10.Bill Dundee vs. Adrian Street, Miss Linda & Jim Cornette (Lumberjack Strap Match) (2/6/83) 11.Ronnie Garvin vs. Lanny Poffo (ICW 1982/83) 12.Bill Dundee & Jerry Lawler vs. Adrian Street & Apocalypse (11/27/82 13.Bobby Eaton & Sweet Brown Sugar vs. Jacques Rougeau & Terry Taylor (1/1/83) Disc 4: 1.Jerry Lawler vs. Bill Dundee (Loser Leaves Town) (6/6/83) 2.Fabulous Ones vs. The Moondogs (Stretcher Match) (5/2/83) 3.Fabulous Ones vs. Moondogs (6/13/83) 4.Fabulous Ones vs. The Moondogs (4/4/83) 5.Fabulous Ones vs. Bobby Eaton & Duke Myers (Hair vs. Titles) (5/16/83) 6.Rock N Roll Express & Bobby Eaton vs. The Moondogs & Jimmy Hart (7/25/83) 7.Jerry Lawler vs. Randy Savage (Cage Match) (12/12/83) 8.Bill Dundee vs. Assassin #1 (9/25/83) 9.Koko Ware vs. Tommy Rogers (10/24/83) 10.Dutch Mantel, Koko Ware, Bobby Eaton & Jaguar vs. The Grapplers & Bruise Brothers (12/10/83) 11.Jerry Lawler & Cowboy Lang vs. Plowboy Frazier & Little Tokyo (12/24/83) 12.Bill Dundee vs. Tommy Rogers (11/7/83) 13.Dutch Mantell, Steve O & The Fabulous Ones vs. Adrian Street, Jesse Barr & The Sheepherders (Stipulations Match) (3/28/83) 14.Austin Idol vs. Stan Hansen (Bunkhouse Match) (10/10/83) 15.Austin Idol vs. Stan Hansen (Texas Bullrope Match) (10/3/83) 16.Bill Dundee vs. Terry Taylor (4/4/83) 17.Jerry Lawler & Austin Idol vs. Jesse Ventura & Stan Hansen (9/25/83) Disc 5: 1.Tommy Rich & Eddie Gilbert vs. Phil Hickerson & The Spoiler (Tennessee Street Fight) (6/25/84) 2.Tommy Rich & Eddie Gilbert vs. Pretty Young Things (Falls Count Anywhere) (5/18/84) 3.Jerry Lawler vs. King Kong Bundy ($10,000 Challenge) (7/16/84) 4.Fabulous Ones vs. The Moondogs (1/9/84) 5.Rock N Roll Express vs. Lanny Poffo & Randy Savage (6/25/84) 6.Jerry Lawler & Randy Savage vs. King Kong Bundy & Rick Rude (9/10/84) 7.Jerry Lawler & Randy Savage vs. King Kong Bundy & Rick Rude (No DQ) (9/17/84) 8.Jimmy Valiant vs. The Assassin (Hair vs. Mask) (4/2/84) 9.Dutch Mantell vs. Eddie Gilbert (9/17/84) 10. Rock N Roll Express vs. Lanny Poffo & Randy Savage (7/9/84) 11.Jerry Lawler vs. Randy Savage (4/9/84) 12.Randy Savage vs. Rick Rude (9/3/84) 13.The Fabulous Ones vs. Pretty Young Things (6/25/84) 14.Eddie Gilbert & Tommy Rich vs. Pretty Young Things (4/12/84) 15.Randy Savage vs. Austin Idol (5/14/84) 16.Tommy Rich vs. Masao Ito (7/9/84) 17.Randy Savage vs. Austin Idol (5/7/84) 18.Dirty White Boys vs. Randy Savage & Mark Batten (10/13/84) I'll be changing shit a bunch I'd imagine.

Find me the Muraco meatball sub match. I haven't seen it since it aired. I posted the donuts promo, but the meatball sub match was so funny.

Randy Savage in Memphis was so awesome.

Yeah,

"Stampede is blaming their low numbers recently on too much blood, NHL finals on TV, the weather, and Owen Hart and Jason being gone." That struck me funny. "Also to blame were Cheers, the Loch Ness Monster, 2% milk, Garbage Pail Kids, and the Jews."

Hell yeah, Moondogs greatness ahead. edit: Yeah, disc 4 so far is the fucking bomb. Between the awesome Fabs/ Moondogs fued and the absolutely incredible Lawler/ Dundee Loser Leaves Town match this is just the best shit ever.

Oh, bullshit. "Ready To Rumble" is fantastic "It's 3:30 am and I'm stoned" viewing.

Thanks...but now I'm really confused. How are they usually diagnosed? The JAMA article emphasizing that "brain death is real death" really throws me for a loop if this can happen. Is it possible that since there will be no organ donation with the elderly patients, that the term "brain dead" is used without testing to make the family more comfortable or something? I honestly don't understand how someone could legitimately be brain dead and then live off life support, especially since not surviving off life support is criteria for brain death in the first place. They seem mutually exclusive if "brain death is real death." It's pretty much that there's no active brain activity to speak of but the other organs are just going on for awhile until the inevitable death. Usually, the patients I'm working with have had suffered from some form of Alzheimer's or related dementia that has ravaged the brain. We never get into the why's and why nots, we just make the patient and family comfortable. But the idea that someone with a healthy history or strong constitution keeping on breathing as there's no discernable brain activity is something that happens. It also happens with chubby little old ladies sometimes. I'm not in the DX end of things, I'm in the "comfort" part. There's a lot of mysteries in the things that can happen at end of life times for seniors.

I've worked in geriatric care for over 18 years, and I can recall many times when a patient was declared brain dead and breathing tubes were removed and they hung on for awhile longer, sometimes a week or so.

There was like, two weeks only, of Raven hanging out backstage or right outside the arena, doing "ECW Raven" stuff. It went on while other shit was going down. It was out of nowhere, if I recall right, and never went anywhere.

Hardcore Holly vs. The Bix. Book this now, wildpegaguy

What's the story here?

You do understand that lots of books quote interviews others have conducted and it's considered normal, right? I just read this book about standup comedy, a much more mainstream subject, and there are plenty of interviews by others cited. What does it matter? Haynes most likely would've told Randazzo the exact same thing. Should he have left out all of the Benoit & Guerrero (dead guys who he couldn't talk to) quotes from other sources because he didn't interview them himself? It's been awhile since I read that book, but I remember it having a pretty strong "Vince is EVOL" tone. Also, the errors were fixed for the paperback. The newsletter sources revolting is a change, and what's with the trend (starting with Meltzer and continued by you) acting is if this book had a chance to be a giant mainstream crossover hit that shook the entire world? Randazzo's mainstream interviews were minor ones, and it would've taken a big push from a major news outlet that happened to come across the book to get any further. Sold out its first 2 printings in 2 weeks. Not at my Borders. I've read the whole thing during visits on my way home from work by taking the one copy and dog earing where I'd left off. So many stories I've heard on shoot videoes. Sex, Lies, and Headlocks in no way had a "Vince is evil" tone. It was pretty much "Here's what happened". Granted, they got a LOT wrong, but the dude did have a fine disertation of the original steroid trial and the BodyBuilding fed stuff. And Bix, chill..man. I continued something? I'm a 38 year old douchebag. I haven't continued anything in recent years except being dull. I do think that perhaps a book that has an "important" story to tell would make the national radar and not just be argued about by dudes on the internet. No one cares. Because it's Pro Wrestling. I'm not being uncaring or a dick here. But the fact is...no one cares. It's sad, I guess. But no one actually gives a shit outside of a handful of fans of said "terrible" industry. Shit, I was actually awaiting Nancy Grace to have your pal on her show, but no go. It's a dead story to the media now. I'm not saying that's good, it's just the way it is. No one actually cares about the clowns at the Circus or the Elephants. It's a bitch to be sure, but there ya go. The sad truth is that no one gives a shit about Pro Wrestling and what goes on in it, and if a book needs to be written about it to try and alert people to the problems, it shouldn't come off as ramblings of a disgruntled ex-fan.

A book classified as "True Crime" should be true all the way through. Without comments like if Billy Jack Haynes had actually killed McMahon it would have changed wrestling, probably for the better. Really? The Haynes shoot is reputable? And Vince being murdered would have been a positive? A book about how fucked up wrestling is should be out there. But not with a tone of hate and disdain. It makes the book look like the ramblings of a hurt fan. There's enough shit out there on the record to show that wrestling is fucked up without using RF Shoots as "sources". Fuck, "Sex, Lies, and Headlocks" comes off better than this and that was full of errors, but the Author never came off like he had an agenda. Whatever, it's all not that important in the long run. Wrestling isn't going anywhere, it's not gonna change, and this book will end up collecting dust at Borders next to the Kane "biography." And I'm not trying to contribute to the stupid fighting going on about this, just my two cents.

It read to me more like his Pillman stuff was an addition to the review, but not stated as such. Pretty much Dave saying what he had to say, and then emphasizing it with his extensive knowledge of Pillman.

Meltzer's review: Credit Wrestling Observer

I always liked the F4W for the most part, especially the radio shows. The Board is....something else.....

http://www.kayfabemovie.com/ Sorry if I'm late to the game with this...but holy shit the trailers are hilarious.

Cool.One of my favorite memories from that show was before the show, me and my buddy wandered over to the far right of stadium seats right by the wall where people from Crockett were hanging out and such, possibly catching some of David Allen Coe or whoever it was who played a set before the show. We were technically "backstage" sort of. David Crockett was signing autographs and my buddy asks him, "Hey, David! Is Flair gonna fight Jerry Lawler on the Bash Tour?" Crockett just looked at him with a look that said, "Shut the fuck up, mark." And then Magnum wandered by and we said "Hey, Magnum!" He looks over and is greeted by two 16 year old dorks in Nikita T-Shirts, going "AAAARRRGHHH!" and doing the Russian Sycle arm deal. He also just looked at us with a "Fuck you." look. It was so great, even as dorky as it is 22 years later.

I found the results at titlebelt.net, but no attendance figures 7/1/86 Philadelphia Cage Match Dusty Rhodes & Road Warrior Animal beat Ole & Arn Anderson NWA Champion Ric Flair beat Road Warrior Hawk dq Nikita Koloff beat Magnum TA Rock & Roll Express & Baby Doll beat Midnight Express & Jim Cornette Jimmy Valiant beat Baron Von Raschke Ron Garvin beat Tully Blanchard Indian Strap match Wahoo McDaniel beat Jim Garvin Bunkhouse match Manny Fernandez beat Shaska Whatley Black Bart beat Todd Champion The Barbarian beat Denny Brown I was at that show and it was great. But as far as the place being oversized, what they did was set up the ring in the middle of one corner of the Stadium, possibly near the pitcher's mound, I can't recall; there were rows of ringside seats and in the stands they just sold tix to that closet section. They had barricade tape as you'd reach the ends of where tickets were sold. Sorry if that's confusing, I couldn't think of a better way to describe it.

Yeah, Ric Flair and Bobby Eaton were like twins. I can't tell you how many times I turned on TBS and mistook the two of them. That "less muscular" Ric Flair with the giant arms was just the picture twin of Eaton.

lol Gabe is back at it again with some more douchery. Refering to JR's blog about Danielson's dark match: That's a hilariously awful "I need to stay looking rebelious despite the reality that a mention of ROH on WWE.com is huge" attempt.

Having a Southern accent is somehow relevent to someone's opinion?

"Yakuza kills someone in a movie = cool. Yakuza kills someone in real life = horrifying." Ummm... I love "The Godfather" and "Goodfellas" because they're fucking movies. When I see footage or pictures of actual mob hits, it's rather disturbing. I don't see how this talking point has any legs.

The Roddy Piper face turn in 1986-87 leading up to WrestleMania 3 was fucking awesome, as it developed somewhat slowly. He wasn't suddendly a good guy and the only good guys at first who'd back him up against Adonis, Orton, and Muraco were the Bulldogs. At the time, it was really wild that Piper was gonna be a good guy, and it was so fucking cool.