Grimmas

13 OVW 14 MTW R20 1 NJPW 2 RevPro 3 USWA 4 WWF 5 SMW 6 AJPW 7 UWFi 8 WCW 9 ECW 10 FMW 11 M-Pro 12 ECWA 13 OVW 14 MTW

SMW selects Bull Pain. 12 ECW 13 OVW 14 MTW

10 WWF 11 SMW 12 ECW 13 OVW 14 MTW

Also LA was kind of dead and when the WWF run there in 88 did it even do really well? How was Verne going to do well there in 84?

Sabu = Greatest things ever, the icon of ECW. Crowd ate it up. Then. "Oh, fuck Sabu because he's not showing up !". And the crowd ate it up. Then. Sabu's back, handshake, he's the greatest thing ever. And the crowd ate it up. All this is reflected in a very fair rating of 6. Heyman is arguably the best in this area of anyone in history. If he is a six, then nobody could be an 8 or higher.

Muraco never came back due to the weather too.

Apparently thinking the WWE could be headlining ppvs or WrestleMania's with women if they actually tried. The talent is there with Bayley, Sasha, Charlotte, Becky, and Asuka that it could be done.

ten hour rule.. you can jump them. WCW selects Bull Nakano M-Pro selects Kato Kung Lee RevPro selects JT Smith 2 ECWA 8 AJPW 10 WWF 11 SMW 12 ECW 13 OVW 14 MTW

FMW selects Katsutoshi Niiyama UWFi selects Carl Greco 2 ECWA 5 USWA 6 WCW 7 M-Pro 8 AJPW 9 RevPro 10 WWF 11 SMW 12 ECW 13 OVW 14 MTW

It's a mixture of things, but there is no way Heyman is a 10 in that category. A 10 is Vince Sr faced with the hottest wrestler on the planet in 1978, who'd sold out MSG a ton of times, in Billy Graham and refusing to turn him face and giving the belt to Backlund REGARDLESS. AND still getting Backlund over, selling out MSG, etc. It's Baba faced with Kenta Kobashi in 1992-3 and saying to both him and the crowd, "no kid, you have to wait your turn. And I'm going to make you wait". And the fans essentially accepting that their will was overturned. Your bias is showing... Taz as the baddest mother fucker on the planet. RVD as the world's greatest wrestler. Dreamer as a big time hero. Public Enemy as a great tag team. Heyman owned that crowd. I think as much as he owned the crowd, the crowd owned him. In a way that simply isn't true for Baba or Sr. Give me some examples of Heyman really defying his crowds and still getting over with it. Bringing in Sid and having him be the most over guy in the company. If anybody in ECW should had failed it was Sid.

It's a mixture of things, but there is no way Heyman is a 10 in that category. A 10 is Vince Sr faced with the hottest wrestler on the planet in 1978, who'd sold out MSG a ton of times, in Billy Graham and refusing to turn him face and giving the belt to Backlund REGARDLESS. AND still getting Backlund over, selling out MSG, etc. It's Baba faced with Kenta Kobashi in 1992-3 and saying to both him and the crowd, "no kid, you have to wait your turn. And I'm going to make you wait". And the fans essentially accepting that their will was overturned. Your bias is showing... Taz as the baddest mother fucker on the planet. RVD as the world's greatest wrestler. Dreamer as a big time hero. Public Enemy as a great tag team. Heyman owned that crowd.

Heyman not having a mastery over crowd of 10 feels very wrong.

2 ECWA 3 FMW 4 UWFi 5 USWA 6 WCW 7 M-Pro 8 AJPW 9 RevPro 10 WWF 11 SMW 12 ECW 13 OVW 14 MTW

https://www.kayfabenews.com reports [bREAKING] Undertaker suspended after Wellness Policy test reveals he is a dead man

12 NJPW R19 1 NJPW 2 ECWA 3 FMW 4 UWFi 5 USWA 6 WCW 7 M-Pro 8 AJPW 9 RevPro 10 WWF 11 SMW 12 ECW 13 OVW 14 MTW

8 USWA 11 ECWA 12 NJPW 14 MTW R19 1 NJPW 2 ECWA 3 FMW 4 UWFi 5 USWA 6 WCW 7 M-Pro 8 AJPW 9 RevPro 10 WWF 11 SMW 12 ECW 13 OVW 14 MTW

Nakagawa working the Hitman gimmick is delightful. Love to watch that guy. Can't wait to run Hakushi vs Nakagawa, after Hakushi steals Nakagawa's jacket!

Those are some awesome sounding cards!

Couldn't live without a "Bret Hart" in my promotion, even if he is a rip off!

FMW selects... Koji Nakagawa 3 WWF 8 USWA 11 ECWA 12 NJPW 14 MTW

TNT to ECW works really well and adds a little more blood to ECW, which is needed! Plus he can work!

SMW selects Carl Ouelette! 3 WWF 8 USWA 9 UWFi 10 FMW 11 ECWA 12 NJPW 14 MTW

Do we really need a subforum? The main topics (discussion, free agency, etc..) can be pinned and one thread for each promotion can take up the rest of the page. I think once the draft is over, create your thread for your promotion. In the meantime, you have roster thread and you have an upcoming events/hype thread to play with. EDIT: However, if everybody feels its essential we can get a forum. I just don't think it is.

Round 18 folks! R18 1 ECW 2 SMW 3 WWF 8 USWA 9 UWFi 10 FMW 11 ECWA 12 NJPW 14 MTW

Yeah, those are all perfect and really what happened at the time too. By the way, can we talk about how ECWA is quietly becoming the best! Kamala!!!!!!!!