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  1. WrestlingPower

    2020 Wrestling Observer Hall of Fame

    I'm not asking for a deep dive of stats, but explain how Omega "took NJ to the next level" when Fumi Saito said that in Japan people just view Omega as one of the handful of guys on top in that era of NJ. That everyone who thought NJPW would suffer after he left, that they really didn't, just like the Bullet Club cycled thru Balor to AJ to Omega, New Japan just moved on after he left. I'm not sure the stats back up that take either though. Regarding the age 35 thing, while I agree that Dave is probably too stubborn to budge from that rule, I think there is some logic behind it though as that would kind of create a 10-year dry period of new candidates if he changed it from 35 to 45. But it did lead to a lot of interesting discussion on the 605 HOF shows about guys like Slaughter, Mistico, etc. on how they would have been viewed if they had been on the ballot coming off their prime years and if the picks would have aged well.
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    The Cancellation of Jim Cornette

    I haven't caught up on the podcasts, but based on seeing some of the twitter conversations btw Last & Meltzer over the weekend, it seems that Dave was taking things a bit far. Listening to Last's 605 HOF specials, it seems his main issue with Omega's induction is that he was considered in the Japanese category & should have been in the American if his AEW run was indeed a swing vote. Not sure if that factor was mentioned on the Cornette show or not since I haven't heard but based on what Last was saying on twitter was that they weren't seriously saying the voting was rigged. Sounds like Dave got overly sensitive that it could be interpreted as them questioning the validity of the voting (almost sounds as if they were doing a bit about the presidential election). Cornette and Last (and a majority of the guys on the HOF shows) say that Meltzer has lost a lot credibility in recent years due to his defending Omega & the Bucks and it's no doubt he influences his voters just based on him constantly sharing opinions. This dates back to when Nakamura went into the HOF as apparently there was at least one voter who voted for him based on all the talk he was getting in the Observer and even gave the wrong name for him, he was so unfamiliar. All that to say I think Last & Corny have a legit point of wondering why Meltzer has sacrificed a years-long reputation and friendships in order to appear as part of the "in crowd".
  3. WrestlingPower

    Ring of Honor Wrestling

    I saw the Week By Week. That show is much better than the TV, I guess because we get recaps and don't have to sit thru the matches in the sterile environment. The packages they do continue to be top notch. Hoping to see them make good use of Bennett & Taven as a tag team, they were really good together here & in NJ before Bennett left. Maybe they can build around them & get them away from the freakshow fued.
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    Ring of Honor Wrestling

    Glad to see Bennett back. They need more "names" like him coming in to give some air of importance to things. Maybe Chris Hero can return. I think I read that Dragon Lee & Rush both have contracts coming due in Dec/Jan. Not sure about the others. I thought Horus and/or Bandido were actual Americans, is that not true? IF they can get some of these guys in to drop belts, that's at least better than them never coming back.
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  6. WrestlingPower

    2020 Wrestling Observer Hall of Fame

    Another oddity regarding his rule of guys dropping off the ballot after 15 years (or having to get 50%) is it's 15 years from their first ballot appearance, NOT 15 years on the ballot itself. For example, if Reigns doesn't go back on the ballot for 2 years, that year would be considered his 4th year on the clock, not his 2nd. Not saying this is a factor for Reigns one way or the other, but it is an oddity of the rules. My guess on why he won't change the age 35 rule is it would be considered changing the standards and would mean anyone getting in after the change weren't judged on the exact same criteria as others already in.
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    Ring of Honor Wrestling

    After slogging thru what I watched of this week's TV, I'm going to be skipping thru a lot more until Final Battle it appears. I don't know that I've seen either Rush or Dragon Lee but a very few times ever so really interested to see ROH present anything exciting at this point. I've already deleted next week's show off the DVR recording list. And knowing the Bouncers are yet to come in weeks 4-8 of the TV, not looking promising.
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    Ring of Honor Wrestling

    I'm really curious what Final Battle will entail. Will it be a week or 2 of themed TV shows like Impact has been known to do? Will it be a PPV? And if so, live from somewhere other than UMBC where they don't have to do all the protocols between matches? Or a taped PPV where taped matches are cobbled together as a whole card? Regardless, I'm not sure what my interest level would be. What kind of matches are we looking at? Taven vs. Vincent, EC3 vs. Shane Taylor, not sure what else is being "built". Are they going to crown some sort of interim champs from these vaguely promoted as qualifier matches on TV? Maybe a 4-way with King vs. King/Taylor winner vs. ? vs. ?. None of that is of interest to me. I'm struggling to maintain interest at this point even with doing a podcast about it. Unless they book Jeff Cobb or some international talents soon, I'm not sure what they can do to interest me. It would be nice to at least know who else was at the most recent tapings.
  9. WrestlingPower

    Ring of Honor Wrestling

    Williams was the MVP of the tournament. The match with Lethal was the best of the whole tournament and the final, while a bit flat, was still decent enough. Williams seemed to be the main guy that came across like he sat down and really tried to build the story and psychology of his matches around the rules of the Pure title. I agree that the tournament by & large fell flat due to the combination of MMA stylings and the sterile environment. The philosophy (as delivered by Gresham's promo) is sound in that they realize this presentation is unique to them & they can create a niche around it. I hadn't watched any ROH in 2-3 years before starting back with the Pure tournament. The show this week was really weak too which was really disappointing as the first show of fresh content. I'm assuming the roster is coming across as really thin just because so many of their champions are from other countries & can't come in and it's just whoever they can cobble together for the tapings. Speaking of the champions, they have done virtually nothing to let viewers know who title holders are other than the tag and the Pure. The only reason I sat thru the entirety of either match this week is due to doing the podcast reviewing the TV but after seeing the lineup for next week, I'm planning to skip it. The opener this week was like watching an FCW/NXT match with greenish talents. As far as the main, I've never cared for Castle at all, and had never seen King before at all. The profile piece on him was excellent & made him come across as a "character" in the real sense instead of the wrestling sense. I would be interested in seeing him again but only because he came across as a 2nd rate Giant Bernard and hopefully he will be booked as such. The sterile environment continues to be to their detriment as it comes across like they are wrestling in a tomb. Makes these average at best matches a slog to get thru. They need to figure out how to inject more energy and faster moving action into the show. I'm afraid it's really starting to show that ROH is just trying to kill time until the restrictions are lifted. Really curious what Final Battle might be like and how it's going to be presented and delivered. I can't saw ROH has done much of anything to garner my attention in these 9 weeks.
  10. I agree with a lot of what Savage said above about interest level. I think I hit the wall this week with podcasts. I’m weeks behind on Cornette and them pumping out 6+ hours a week of repetitive stuff that’s so based around negativity, I think I’ve had my fill for a while. I’ve been trying to fast forward thru most of the NXT and AEW talk but I think I need a break. I regularly keep up with the Bowdren shows and do occasionally mix in Jericho or Zellner shows (again a chore to get thru due to length), but I think I’m just burnt out on the time commitment level of it all. I never have time to listen to music or do other things I enjoy. It’s like I’m held captive by the time commitment of my hobbies and it can be draining. I’ve kind of been heading this way for years, it seems as consumers of wrestling, colllecting videos, indexing them, etc. after a while it’s just easier to bypass stuff entirely than spend the hours of overhead on top of just actually watching something & moving on.
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  12. WrestlingPower

    2020 Wrestling Observer Hall of Fame

    I think the story is Meltzer and JDW came up with the HOF list as something to do on a flight to Japan. Just curious, which male wrestlers did Moolah train? I think I’ve heard Del Wilkes for sure, and possibly Chris Kanyon and/or Dennis Knight/Mideon.
  13. WrestlingPower

    Dave Meltzer stuff

    I haven't read or heard any of Meltzer's stuff in 6+ months but I remember he used to present things as how he's learned how the WWE office looks at things. I remember him saying that he didn't necessarily agree with stuff but it didn't matter, he needed to report on their point of view on stuff because that would explain why things are done the way they are done. He seemed to be more willing to stop banging his head against the wall on stuff than Alvarez and would resort to that excuse. I can see the argument that people like Cornette might make that Meltzer used to be more on a campaign to carry the flag & try to change things by pointing out what he thought was wrong and how things "should be done" and maybe now he's softened and just figures he can't change things so just report on things as they are.
  14. WrestlingPower

    2020 Wrestling Observer Hall of Fame

    You may not be wrong but wasn't her whole career as a trainer basically based on being a carny where she could train her own opponents/touring troupe, and use them to siphon money off their booking fees. If either of those 2 factors weren't in play she would have never trained people. Not saying this is exclusive to her in her era but more strong factors against her.
  15. WrestlingPower

    2020 Wrestling Observer Hall of Fame

    Re: Kyoko, my guess is she's considered above the others because she was in AJW whereas the others were in lower level/indy promotions.
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  17. WrestlingPower

    Ring of Honor Wrestling

    After week 2 I’m really kind of bored with it. The matches for next week look better on paper. I really didn’t care for the Castle promo content wise. I couldn’t tell what he was going for. Is he intentionally trying to come across as a brooding, deranged, eccentric dude who could snap in the ring at any moment?
  18. WrestlingPower

    Ring of Honor Wrestling

    To me the presentation here was much more the story than the matches. If you are looking for a sports based presentation, they nailed it. Wondering how much of the graphics, stats, time on the screen, etc. continue after the Pure tourney. I’m wondering if they have more filler matches on future weeks. The shows are already a bit dull with the closed set but if they only have 2 matches in an hour that too could get a bit dull depending on whatever they fill the rest of the time with.
  19. WrestlingPower

    new ROH TV review podcast

    After 7+ years, my friend Kevin Burr and I have started podcasting again. Way back when we used to review live shows we attended like DGUSA, ROH, Chikara, etc. as well as review the PPVs etc. My interest in current wrestling has totally bottomed out due to losing interest in AEW several months back. I decided that ROH may be the only promotion left that could possibly retain my interest and with them starting to tape TV again, we decided to start this show ahead of the new stuff airing. This debut episode contains a rundown of our history as ROH fans and wrestling fans in general (as in why you should care what we have to say) and then going thru the roster and reacting to who's there. I'm going in with a clean slate here, as there are LOTS of people on the roster that I've never seen wrestle or only a handful of times. I'm going to attempt to review things as they are as opposed to comparing against other things or fantasy booking "what I would do instead". Trying to give it a shot on its own merits independent of the wrestling landscape. We'll see if they can spark my interest and how long this experiment will last. https://open.spotify.com/show/2GPbGNelahEFwNIILoiohl
  20. WrestlingPower

    new ROH TV review podcast

    Episode 2 went up this week with us running down the competitors in the tourney & how they fit with the style. I’m looking forward to the TV starting as something fresh for me to watch. I don’t think I’ve seen much ROH at all for over 2 years.
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  23. Do we know if he has a promo voice vs. real voice? This is the way he always sounds. This guy had his life's work ripped away all in the matter of a few days so probably hard to judge how much of this was him being mentally & emotionally distraught vs. actual sorrow. He seems to be one to try to overexplain. From dialog I saw elsewhere, it seems like most think it was a bad idea for his editor to edit this as it made it come across more stagey.
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    The End Of CHIKARA

    I enjoyed all the Chikara shows I went to or viewed on DVD, but I never really connected with the comic book/"it's all fun" style of presentation. I guess you could say I "used" the company to go see Japanese workers and indy darlings live but I never cared a whole lot for most of the homegrown Chikara characters. There were guys like Frightmare & Hallowicked who should have been much bigger deals elsewhere. I also never understood that "closed society" mindset of the promotion where no one was really allowed to work elsewhere without permission and how the company thought they were exempt from hardcore fans trying to break thru their kayfabe by trying to figure out who guys under masks were. Their legion of fans online acted as if you were trying to steal someone's identity for profit or something trying to figure out who was who and where else they may have worked.
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