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Yeah the RWs one, while well produced, did come across as clearly lacking. How many times did they go back to Hawk's drug problems? I have no doubt it probably affected things but they didn't even mention him doing monkey steroids which affected his heart. No mention of them returning to WCW, which I *think* happened in the early Nitro era before their WWE return. No mention of Animal being injured and getting the Lloyd's of London thing that was at least a decent sized factor in Hawk going off & doing the Hell Raisers thing. It was common knowledge that Animal wasn't happy about it but he shouldn't have been totally blindsided since he was basically out of the business at that point. He literally couldn't wrestle without forfeiting the $ and then when he came back it had to be in tags.

This season has been very well done for sure. The interviews with Kevin's adult daughters and Kerry's ex were all excellent. I like the approach they took to the Horsemen doc, focusing on the 80s version and just quickly recapping all the later versions without muddying up the story by going into all of that in detail. The LOD one was very well done but had a MAJOR flaw just like the Hogan Netflix one, you really can't properly tell their story without the Japan portion. It really undersells how big of stars they were and how much $ was rolling in. This one had like a 15 second mention of Hell Raisers but ignored Japan altogether otherwise.

Anything previously unreleased on the MSG show that went up?

@kev72 and I went to see this a few days ago. Amazing casting and it was very good but depressing as expected. I was kinda amazed at the eye for detail on some stuff which made the Flair thing a bit more glaring but since I was expecting that I didn’t think it was too egregious. I liked the easter egg type details in there that only someone that truly knew the story would know what they were seeing such as Kevin passing a car on the road, I instantly knew that was David Manning going to tell Fritz about David though none of that was spelled out. The only thing I thought might be total fiction was them laying Kerry’s body out on the table. I think my favorite part was how much they humanized Mike as I don’t think many people really knew much about him. I think seeing it all play out kinda drove home just how young these guys were succumbing to all this pressure. I can’t even imagine what a non-wrestling fan that just happened to want to see a Zac Efron movie thought of it all. Talk about grim.

“Pam in the office” was gone when Horner was gone. So at least 1/2 of SMW was just Jim, Hildebrand, Sandy Scott, and occassional other helpers as “office”.

I guess it must be something tied to the ad reads, but I don’t know why they insist on having each show be 3-4 hours. It’s hard to keep up with, I’ve been picking & choosing shows and going to more of the youtube clips for the past year or so. Maybe it would help maintain his sanity if they cut back to the 90 min shows and focus more on the questions and talking about all the merchandise projects JC has in the works.

Good discussion this week on Cornette’s tape collection and the future of it. Ep. 436, about an hour in

Updating this thread with our most recent guests: episodes 10-12: no guests, just me & Dave episode 13: Buck Woodward episode 14: Preston Quinn episode 15: Will H./Goodhelmet Episode 15 was a Baba tribute with a match from 1992 and one from 1994. All others have been following 1989 chronologically.

Based on what Cornette has said, it sounds like the Bedlam episode was practically done as a favor to him. He said he had been trying to sell them on doing it since season 1 and they finally did it. Yeah I wasn't that into it either even as a big SMW fan. I thought the story could have been told in 15 minutes. For a network that hardly anyone would have heard of except for this show, it's funny that Vice would try to dictate what's mainstream enough. They are already into season 3, I'm not sure what more they can cover without getting into fringe people. XPW and Nick Gage are certainly as obscure if not moreso than FMW.

We just completed episode 9 today. We've had some interesting guests on the show along the way to help us discuss the matches from 1989 and 1990 that have aired. Episodes 3 & 5 had Buck Woodward Episode 6 had Chris Tabar Episode 8 had Todd McKenzie Episode 9 had Roy Lucier We also have a Facebook page for the show that can help you follow along. Thanks!

Has it been addressed whether Hero’s podcast is done?

The ex wife was the star of the show. I did find it a bit odd that she kept all those old photos etc. I get that they made peace later on but I always assume most people get rid of any history of their former lives with exes. After watching both shows and one thing they had in common was about his training. Neither one mentioned that he actually had any. Did he and Sting literally just send out promo shots with zero training whatsoever? What did Bassman actually do for them? I knew their training was far from thorough but these shows make it seem like they had absolutely none. I’d be curious to hear someone pick apart Jake’s story that he was allegedly promised the title. I wonder if it was a rib from management or they blew him off by sending him to “ask permission” from Hellwig knowing that wouldn’t go well. I would not totally rely on Jake’s memory on much of anything with all he’s been thru.