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It's funny because from what I can hear from a non-wrestling fan context in France, he's known just as much as The Rock as he is Dwayne Johnson. Which is pretty unique. Like the wrestling name did translate to his Hollywood career without him using it.

For sure. Especially with him being on NoWellnessPolicy diet, at his age. If he does that Mania match and doesn't get injured (like he did after the last Cena match, or even both of them ?), it's gonna be a miracle.

You have to know I'm not referring to anyone on this board when it comes down to this. #NotAllWWEFan. Ok ? Fine ? Honestly, I'm just pissed to no end. It comes at a time I'm already vastly disinvested from what I watch (despite AEW doing lots of cool thing right now, I've been watching out of habits more than anything else lately, not to mention the other stuff I used to follow), and this entire thing leaves a very sour taste in my mouth. That they are in the bubble. Like Levesque who "did not read the lawsuit" but still had the reflex of making fun of the Forbidden Door name during the press conference. Like, how far up your own ass must you be to ignore real life to that kinda degree and only think "pro-rasslin" ?

The Rock remains one of the top 3 biggest (US) pro-wrestling stars ever too, BTW. So, it's not just Hollywood stats here. No one in the real world knows who the fuck Cody Rhodes is. Nor Roman Reigns, mind you. Everybody knows who The Rock is.

Sure. Which, again, is very telling. White knight my ass. And yeah. The WWE audience is people chanting "Thank you Vince !" in unison the first time he was kicked out. Also, I don't "feel better" about anything relating to this. But since you apparently can't get over the fact this video made me think of Vince and you have to state over and over and over again that it's "overreacting", well, allow me to lack nuance about it when I reply to something I moved on from hours ago already. Again, this is pretty irrelevant in the grand scheme of things.

You're still wrong. Again : people not seeing it is a reflection on them, not me. WWE deserves its audience. And yeah, everything @Coffey said. WWE is very cynically using their booking nonsense to try and make people forget about what should be the most traumatic and important story in contemporary (read, the last 40 years) pro-wrestling. People are more concerned about their odd-ass parasocial fantasies than with real life issues.

wE'Re tEllInG a sTOrY Or something. Rock completely taking over WWE after the remainders of the fucked up McMahon's dynasty, son-in-law included, being disposed of (which is still way too early to tell, but Levesque really came off like an inconsiderate clown at the press conference) for good would be long term karma bitchslap to the max.

Is that the case still for most joshi promotion right now apart from Stardom ?

Speaking of which, I thought Joe on announcing just grinning like crazy watching the match between Swerve and RVD was half him playing his character and half him being all "Look at that old mofo go !". RVD looked pretty amazing, all things considered. Still haven't watched Collision, like every week now. Can't wait to see Danielson marking out at doing CMLL stuff.

You mean Roman vs Rock vs CM Punk ? But they can't, Punk is injured.

Since Rossy is the talk of the day, I did watch that ARSION reunion special. Ahhh, those insanly cringe bad dance music theme from the 90's/early 00's, did I miss you ! It's insane how Yumi Fukawa and Michiko Ohmukai, who are basically my age, look EXACTLY like you'd expect them to look at when they were 24 years old. And that is, basically the same persons, only 24 years older (ditto Etsuko Mita BTW ! So cool to see her again). Amazing. I had no idea Fukawa's daughter was a pro-wrestler. That was kinda cool to see. AKINO is still AKINO, and by that I mean awesome. Yoshida looks like the most in shape person at 53 ever. I have no idea what the deal was with Ayako, it seems like some people weren't aware she was gonna be there, Ohmukai literally jumped when she heard her name and they hugged for ever in tears. This was nice. Overall, that was quite the quarter of a century later closure. Cool stuff, although obviously I did not get even close to what the night was all about, since a lot of it was talking.

Damn. Plot thickens. If THAT'S the case, then, is Bushiroad run by idiots ?

Well, that one too. But I was thinking about how Sullivan doing favors sending talent to ECW for a while, even working shots here and there while he was the booker in WCW served him right when it came to recruiting talent. That and Woman working for ECW as well. Anway. Can't wait to hear more about that story. Good ol' Rossy Ogawa.

It's lonely at the top. Nothing new.

It doesn't fucking matter if it's a Japanese proverb. If people don't think about the Vince thingy reading this while watching WWE shit, it's on them. It's obviously Rossy Ogawa anyway now. The true Japanese EVIL !

So, "poaching" is basically "contract tampering" or something ? Is Rossy basically doing with STARDOM/WWE what Kevin Sullivan was doing with ECW/WCW (in reverse) ?

Rossy Ogawa in WWE ? What the hell ? And what do they mean by "poaching a number of staff members and STARDOM athletes" ? Poaching ?

Unsure about the google-trad. ..... Not a good feeling about this though. Whatever the case, wow. Another one bite the dust.

No, I'm not.

Really fucking tasteful. So, no one thought about how this was INSANELY tone deaf ? It does not evoke the Vince thingy at all... Jeeez. This fucking company, really. Never disappoints.

Vince personally got him into WWE. That has to count for something... And speaking of which, really, if I was Cody right now, I would be less upset about the fact I got Dwayned than by the idea that I flew to meet with a sex-trafficking rapist, and that *this* guy convinced me to leave the company I founded with my then-friends and comrades to make a positive change in the landscape. Who know what text messages he was sending before and after the meeting. That alone would keep me awaken at night right now. As far as the Rock goes, newsflash : he's a much, MUCH bigger star than anyone in the WWE today. And he's on the TKO board. The WWE Universe (tm) being upset about them not getting their hashtag match in the current context is both way embarrassing and and a bit funny.

Wow. Brutal. But accurate. Also accurate. Looking from the outside in, I have no idea how you can't be sick and tired of Roman Reigns reign at this point. It only got really hot when Sami put fire under the Bloodline storyline, and by then it was already, how many years old ? People were ready for it to end at Montreal last year. Then at Mania last year. The apathy with which the SummerSlam match this year was received is a testament that people are just tired of Roman and will only get excited if they really believe he's gonna lose.

It's a straight out diversion at this point. "Yeah, people, be very angry at this, don't think about.... the other thing going on." Not that the WWE Univers (tm), would care anyway, but the wrestling medias now talk about it like it's a legitimate story worth being talked about.

Imagine that though, more dislikes than the "Thank you Vince !" video... Priorities and all.