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Great angle again. I can't see Sting repelling down and up so suddenly without thinking about Owen Hart, and how badly they screwed up. I mean, when you watch Sting do these ultra-quick drop down every week, how hard was it to get some real security for Owen ? Anyway. Another thing, it's really amazing to think we're in late May and they still are slowling building to Starrcade by milking every confrontation as much as they can yet giving actual satisfactions to the fans on the way like with Bischoff being DDted. They really had the feud of the decade on their hands, and they screwed it up because of Hogan's insecurity. Really odd when you think they he was going all the way in term of stooging and bitching during the build-up.
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It's a shame we really never get to see a lot of those three together, because they are so much fun (and so much better than DX in any incarnation). What the core of the nWo should have been, without all the dead bodies around them. I could see the Piper's movies line coming from miles away, but it was classic.
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Indeed, the nWo style vignettes aren't the best fit for Savage's promos that have a very specific pace and delivery.
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Konnan vs Hugh Morrus. What a feud. Konnan really didn't do much of anything since he dame on board in the Dungeon, after being a flop as a babyface. And yeah, he's thugging it up a notch to much here.
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Please expand on this thought. Pro-wrestling needs heat to work. You can't get heat if you're winking at your audience. The fact that HHH was kinda trolling the smarks during the WM build was still a small detail in the grand scheme of things, as the brunt of the feud was a classic evil authority trying to keep the brave babyface down storyline, and there was nothing meta about it. Also, you can't pretend to have a critical or analytical point of view on pro-wrestling through pro-wrestling (like post-modern horror movies do on basic horror movies, or post-modern western movies do on classic western movies etc...) because… well…. pro-wrestling isn't an art. (running to the hills in fear)
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Syxx is a great troll. He's in his deep 2-Pac fetish phase too.
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Wolfpack get some heat back on Flair. Nice attention to detail as they had the Horsemen banned from the building after McMicheal threw a fit backstage going after Kevin Green who cost him and Jarrett the match against the Steiners. So Flair is getting beat up to continue the feud with the Wolfpack.
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In other words, post-modern pro-wrestling really doesn't work.
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Drawing power.
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Terrific match and great booking. The Wolfpack are awesome here, especially Hall & Syxx, and they totally carry their opposition. Syxx has the time of his life. It's too bad we didn't get more of those six-man involving the Wolfpack, they could have been the second coming of the Freebirds. Sadly, Hall got all fucked up and Syxx would get injured/fired. Great feel-good moment for WCW, along with Piper beating Hogan at Starrcade and Luger winning the title on Nitro. One of the peak of the nWo era in term of work, booking and heat.
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Awful match, the only one in an otherwise excellent PPV (the best since Starrcade 96 easily).
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As far as living it as it happened, WWF 97 probably. And then as live as it could be since I had to wait for the tapes to get released and buy them from a seller, ARSION 1999.
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"What ?" is the worst chant ever. I can live with goofy chants like "It's awesome" and such although it's ridiculous, I actually like post-WM crowds hichtjacking the show (with often hilarious results), but "What ?" is absolutely driving me crazy. In 2014 still ? Really ? Some of the worst crowds ever were he Attitude Era crowds when the sign craze got out of hands, people weren't there to watch the show anymore but to show their signs on TV. Plus I don't even know how you could watch the show in the buildings with all these giant signs everywhere.
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Sullvan sure took credit for putting the US title on Dean in 1997 in his Timeline interview. I wonder if the whole Terry Taylor "workrate friendly" booking hasn't been overstated over the years anyway.
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They did get Yuji Yasuraoka on the first try though. Yuji Yasuraoka on PPV. WCW was amazing.
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"Lance Storm ? Sounds like a weatherman from Omaha." Bobby Heenan. Slamboree 97.
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Dam, the HEAT. WCW was so hot at this point, and hot with *good* stuff. It's a real pleasure to go through this stuff. Savage looks like he's gonna explode after DDP's line about washing Hogan's car. Gotta love that Schiavone said "How many times did we thought that ?". And this time the beatdown is stopped by the Giant wearing a Luger T-shirt. Hot angle. Loved it.
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Hot opening match involving tons of cool matwork and submissions. A little rough on the edge at times but damn Regal was great here, as was Dragon as soon as he got into kicking the shit out of our favourite Englishman. Yeah, this match is exactly why WCW was so fun, because guys with different style could express themselves and didn't get molded into a in-house style. The crowd is totally on Regal's side at the end, which is kinda odd since this match was supposed to turn Ultimo babyface. Excellent stuff.
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Sure, he put himself over to some degrees, but he sure sounded a lot less of a douche than most "good ol' rassters" telling good ol' stories about drugging rats and fucking them and shitting in the bags of other people. And I find interesting to get the point of view of the management, for once. I never cared one bit for Nova as a worker (maybe he improved in WWE, haven't seen his work here), but a lot of what he said I found to be reasonnable and pretty balanced. He doesn't sugar coat what he found repulsive, like the way Kanyon was treated and abandonned by so-called friends after he came out or how Chris Benoit was a violent alcoholic who bullied people along JBL.
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What's his kind ?
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Triple H just announced that the Ultimate Warrior passed away
El-P replied to flyonthewall2983's topic in Pro Wrestling
Okay, so can we say that the Warrior sucked and had a shitty personnality again now ? -
Shane Douglas wants to open a new company ? Mmmkay. The interview could be quite interesting though.
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Wait, really ? The son of Meng got a Mexican gimmick named Camacho ? Holy shit.
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Do I need to point out again how embarrassing and stupid it looked to have two guys from Quebec pretending to be actual frenchmen from France calling themselves La Resistance as heels during the anti-french campaigns in the mid 00's ? It was so asinine on every level. Mind you, they have one French guy doing jobs on NXT and they call him Sylvester Lefort. Yeah. In the 30's maybe that would have been a decent pro-wrestler name in Paris. Sylvester Lefort ? Really ? Don't they know *anything* about what's going on outside of America ? Fuck, I would have this guy do a Eurotrash club hopper (yeah, him too), playing the total keke from Southern France (which he's from, wouldn't be hard for him) character and have him come out to Daft fucking Punk songs. David Guetta songs. (yeah, fits the character better).
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Yep. And yep. But Feinstein doesn't have much to do since Nova goes on and on and goes into details by himself, so it's good. Now that I've seen this, the guy would be perfect for a Timeline.