Matt D

1.) I don't want to distract from the point. I was mainly naysaying the use of such hypotheticals using the Bret example that we've brought up many, many times here. 2.) That said, it's a good question. I think Bret's quality of opponent would be higher. I think the most interesting thing would be that he would be wrestling different opponents every night (or at least every week), and in doing so, would have developed into a very different wrestler, especially if he jumped over early. If you look at the WWF house show line ups on historyofwwe.com, you can see how they ran the same match night after night after night for months, really, while WCW,, at the same time, barely had the same line-up two nights in a row. I'm not sure what that would have meant for his imagination or creativeness and general match quality in a world where it's much harder to get bored in front of crowds with very different expectations.

Andrew, come and talk to us about Rick Rude.

If he had ended up in Mid-Atlantic or Mid-South instead of WWF. If he had jumped to WCW in 1991. If he had homesteaded in New Japan instead. From the evidence we have, Dynamite might have become the best of the WoS workers of his era if he stayed. I get that point. He didn't stay though. He jumped to Calgary and became something else instead. And now he's above all of them, generally by far.

And by that logic, Bret Hart should be #1. I'm not saying Dynamite shouldn't be #212 or something.

Frankly, I prefer the Danish Dynamite.

"Greatest British wrestler ever." Ouch. I like Dynamite at times (mainly as a heel), but considering the Brits who didn't make the list who are far superior, that kind of hurts.

I wish we had more fancams out of the Europe tour. I only want to see Reigns vs Sheamus so many times, relatively. Usually the Europeans do us one step better. Someone at DVDVR posted this though:

I would (and will) argue that being the best at what is most basic and primal is exactly why he should be on a list like this.

I wish Tito was higher but it really is a big jump from last time.

They're bringing Bret in because he was so brutal in his commentary about the company in the last two months, right? What a screwed up company.

There's a lot to dig through here even if the poster's idea of "best of" is sort of dubious: http://www.dailymotion.com/user/csv29tx/

Well, we disagree there but I've stated my thoughts at length. As for Taker, I am Taker-neutral,

Which ignores the major point for earnest banter, by the way as in i proffered a specific initiative. And I can spell quebradora but boy was it not rolling off the lips.

I really liked Lucas/Morton vs Dynamic Duo. Structurally, it was clever, with the faces being pissed off enough to get themselves DQ'd immediately and then it settling into a more typical shine/heat/comeback format, with the shine lasting through the next fall. I loved them working Gino's arm. Morton showed both the connection to the crowd we know him for and a lot of fun offense, even if not everything was hitting perfectly. Lucas was like an older, more seasoned Morton, which is a different sort of dynamic than Gibson. Tully was super athletic here, again, just dynamic flying around the ring with broader body language than we're used to, I think. I wasn't so high on the hot tag, though Lucas' initial flurry coming in was great. The tag itself was just slightly ill-timed to maximize the moment. I liked the finish a lot though. They did it all so crisply and quickly. It was a BS finish but it worked due to the speed that they moved with it. I could have used a bit more heat but the fact the babyfaces started a fall down, basically, helped, as did the fact that Morton can make a few minutes taking a beating feel like more.

If you think about it, he's got Joe, Nakamura, Sombra, Biff, just to name a few upcoming, plus I imagine he could pull out a better match with Balor than anyone on the roster. He has so many new and interesting match ups over the next couple of years.

If he has another few years at the rate he's going now...

Is anyone who is pro-Andre also anti-Taker? I find that unlikely.

You got a great picture out of it, at least.

I feel like we should be Wrestling Observers.

Tajiri came really close to making mine, and that's saying a lot. I really need to watch that Finlay match.

With Angle, it's a heresy thing mainly. There'll be a manifesto someday.

Williams looked real good real early in the Houston footage. I wonder if that helped him with abut one.

The way they would ANTICIPATE Lothario's punch in Houston?

And Rude.

They wouldn't have since he was working as his gimmick demanded?