goodhelmet Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 Battle Royal - Regal gets a nice chant but it means nothing. No audible called. Chrisitan comes back. Christian plasy face. Christian wins. Face Christian is so much better than heel Christian. Lets see how that plays out. Kofi & Truth vs. Swagger & Dolph - OK, so now that Swagger and Dolph are JTTS, Vickie as a character is officially dead and both guys need to disappear for awhile. I don't know if the world can handle another dancing move from Truth. That splits into a shuffle into a legdrop took forever. WHen Team BLondie did a double team on Truth, Kofi did not go for the save and Booker rightfully called him out on it. Pretty hot ending to a perfectly acceptable tag match but I don't care about any of these 4 guys... including Ziggler. How sad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Waco Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 I find it amusing how Alex Riley's music always results in big pops until people see who it is. Finish to the women's match was pretty sick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted May 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 Beth Pheonix vs. Layla - Crowd turns on the match when it got a little sloppy early on with "We Want Kharma" chants. What was the 2nd chant? I couldn't make it out. I was digging the leg work by Beth but the crowd did not give a shit. I gotta give them props. The 2nd half after Beth was working on the leg was not bad at all. Nice nearfalls, some sick looking bendy moves. Oh well, glad I didn't take a cigarette break for this one. Jericho and Orton are horrible on the mic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Waco Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 Jericho and Orton are the two most channel changing guys the WWE has had at the main event level in a long time from my perspective Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 Jericho needed to turn face two years ago. His heel schtick is beyond stale and I rather Orton win the title. He could feud with Del Rio and Bryan, while doing great work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostka Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 I always hated Orton on the mic. Jericho has always been extremely overrated on the stick as well. Jericho in general is amazingly overrated, or maybe I'm just tainted by his awful return. Fuck Jericho, man, seriously. I hope he goes away and never comes back. He's useless IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted May 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 Alberto Del Rio vs. Chris Jericho vs. Randy Orton vs. Sheamus - I think they should reserve these 4-way matches for mid-card guys and stay out of the main event unless there is some gimmick involved. We hate it when one guy stays out of a match forever in three-way dances but it is even more obvious and lame when two guys are "out". The one thing it does provide is a hot ending but is this a match anyone is going to remember in 2 months? I guess Jericho is now just used to put guys over. Has he won one match since coming back? To be honest, as lame as he has been, probably a good spot for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victator Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 I like four way matches if their is a good feud behind them. This was an X Division title match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted May 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 Brodus Clay vs. The Miz - Putting Brodus in the ring for more than 2 or 3 minutes right now really hurts him. Also, when he came back, he lost half his signature moves and the ring talking and all that stuff that made him so fun including his finisher. Oh well. Christian vs. Cody Rhodes - Kinda bummed. I thought they would have given this some time but it had no heat. Doesn't seem like the fans are sold on Christian as a face. It seems like they know they should cheer him but why get invested since he'll be a heel in 3 months again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted May 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 Aw fuck, Punk had to drop the 5 star classic tag. The match is cursed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisZ Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 Now that was fucking awesome Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted May 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 Daniel BRyan vs. CM Punk - Holy fuck, that crowd!!! Love it when smart crowds hype these two guys up. Anyway, it is like Punk took DB into his private tour bus, popped on some Liger vs. Sano and said, "let's do a Best of this all in one". The ending with the tap right after the pin is a perfect way to set up the rematch. This is probably my American MOTY. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 Fucking awesome. The ONLY naysaying I have at all, the ONLY is that we saw SO much in the way of calling spots. They were talking to each other like crazy and the camera did a terrible job of hiding it. But there was so much awesome, the figure four attempts, and then the SNAP dragon whip into it. One of my favorite things in wrestling is setting up move attempts that pay off later and there was just so much here, SO much. But it wasn't cutesy. And there was heaps of story and they sold things and everything had meaning and weight to it. God that was awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostka Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 I liked it, but I didn't think it was better than Bryan/Sheamus last month. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Waco Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 I liked it, but I didn't think it was better than Bryan/Sheamus last month. I didn't either, let alone Cena/Lesnar Still a sweet match, but I would have preferred Bryan sell the leg more at points and the spot calling was really egregious. Relatively minor quibble for a strong match though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 I think the leg selling was done pretty well, myself. There were little things, like him getting up to the top too quickly and then selling AFTER the dropkick, which if we're going to compare it against top notch stuff matters, but i don't think there was a point where he forgot to sell it either before or after a move. It was always on his mind and never dropped or tossed aside. But yeah, he always remembered either before or after, never always before AND after. There's so much stuff in this match to like I'd have to rewatch it a few times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted May 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 You guys sound like Meltzer... Not quite a match of the year candidate, but not far off. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted May 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 I liked it, but I didn't think it was better than Bryan/Sheamus last month. Fuck, I really loved that one too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KrisZ Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 It's tied with the Sheamus match right behind Cena/Lesnar. Yeah God forbid that Punk/Bryan wasn't better than Davey/Elgin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Waco Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 I think the leg selling was done pretty well, myself. There were little things, like him getting up to the top too quickly and then selling AFTER the dropkick, which if we're going to compare it against top notch stuff matters, but i don't think there was a point where he forgot to sell it either before or after a move. It was always on his mind and never dropped or tossed aside. But yeah, he always remembered either before or after, never always before AND after. There's so much stuff in this match to like I'd have to rewatch it a few times. I'm going to watch it again tomorrow which I always do with matches like this. I don't think his selling was bad, I just thought there was a lot of signature offense that involved leaping/kicking/using the knee/et after the leg work. Again it's not a match killer, but it's the reason on first watch I have it a bit lower than the top two matches from the last ppv Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 It's a long Punk singles match, if if you can't learn to block out the long headlock conversations you won't have a good time. And yes that match was awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kostka Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 I prefer the structure of Bryan/Sheamus. I'm a fan of 2/3 falls matches where each fall plays a part into the next. Punk/Bryan was like a hybrid of 90's New Japan Juniors, WWE Main Event Style and 2000's US Indy Style infront of a hot crowd. I liked it a lot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt D Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 It's a long Punk singles match, if if you can't learn to block out the long headlock conversations you won't have a good time. And yes that match was awesome. I just noticed it way more than usual. Maybe because I was watching more closely or something. No idea. I think the leg selling was done pretty well, myself. There were little things, like him getting up to the top too quickly and then selling AFTER the dropkick, which if we're going to compare it against top notch stuff matters, but i don't think there was a point where he forgot to sell it either before or after a move. It was always on his mind and never dropped or tossed aside. But yeah, he always remembered either before or after, never always before AND after. There's so much stuff in this match to like I'd have to rewatch it a few times. I'm going to watch it again tomorrow which I always do with matches like this. I don't think his selling was bad, I just thought there was a lot of signature offense that involved leaping/kicking/using the knee/et after the leg work. Again it's not a match killer, but it's the reason on first watch I have it a bit lower than the top two matches from the last ppv I think part of it was self aware, though. It was a story element. In part, it's why Punk went for the leg in the first place. But more importantly, the dropping of the kneepad was a huge moment. Just like the charging knees to the ribs relatively late in the match. It was a self-aware escalation despite the risk. It was a "high risk decision." I'm not mixed up on which leg that was, am I? I wouldn't put that past myself. I'd really have to see both this and Bryan/Sheamus again. I loved them both too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flyonthewall2983 Posted May 21, 2012 Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 I'm not watching, but there's a Big Show heel turn coming isn't there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted May 21, 2012 Author Report Share Posted May 21, 2012 Ryback vs. Camacho - I like the way they initially introduced Ryback but they need to do something with him to combat these Goldberg chants or he is dead in the water. Cena vs. Johnny Ace - Spurs game started. Only watched this half ass. Saw the Big Show turn coming a mile away. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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