goodhelmet Posted March 2, 2015 Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 We are going to do a reaction show for this PPV so we are all in here at PWO. Here is the card for tonight... + “Mr ROH” Roderick Strong vs BJ Whitmer + Maria Kanellis w/Michael Bennett vs O.D.B w/Mark Briscoe + The Kingdom (Matt Taven & Michael Bennett) vs The Addiction (Christopher Daniels & Frankie Kazarian) vs The Bullet Club (Doc Gallows & Karl “Machine Gun” Anderson) + Cedric Alexander vs Matt Sydal + Moose vs Mark Briscoe + IWGP Heavyweight Champion “The Phenomenal” AJ Styles vs ACH + ROH World Tag Team Championship reDRagon ( c ) v IWGP Jr Tag Team Champions The Young Bucks + ROH World Television Championship Jay Lethal ( c ) w/ Truth Martini vs Alberto El Patron + High Stakes Four Corner Survival for the ROH World Championship Jay Briscoe ( c ) v Michael Elgin vs Tommaso Ciampa v Hanson Also, watch this .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mad Dog Posted March 2, 2015 Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 Gallows had travel issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted March 2, 2015 Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 So they are the people keeping Natural Light in business. Can't complain since it was the only beer I could afford in college. Get a case of that crap for under $10 every times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timbo Slice Posted March 2, 2015 Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 I'm tempted to purchase this and watch it live, but saving the money to watch it later might be worth it, too. Was the Atlanta show the tipping point for you guys? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted March 2, 2015 Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 Wait...did that video say that Maria Kanellis was going up against AJ Styles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim Posted March 2, 2015 Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 The preshow actually did a good job making he interested in this show, when I really wasn't before. Alexander/Sydal was a good opener. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim Posted March 2, 2015 Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 Moose needs to stop doing the flip on the spear. Makes it look weaker than a regular spear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted March 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 - They are succeeding at making Moose look like Sid and I mean that in a good way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jushin muta liger Posted March 2, 2015 Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 I could see Moose getting a TV title run this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stomperspc Posted March 2, 2015 Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 I could see Moose getting a TV title run this year. I am not convinced he should't beat Jay for the World title sometime this year, assuming he re-ups (I think his contract is up in June). It might be a bit too soon to put the title on him but at the rate he is improving he could theoretically be really good by the end of the year. That drop kick is awesome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted March 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 Ok my stream dropped. It keeps kicking me off my computer. Damn internet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Waco Posted March 2, 2015 Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 I'll talk more on the podcast about this, but not filling Gallows spot on the show comes across as so bush league, and there were easy ways they could have solved it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hammerva Posted March 2, 2015 Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 Well if the opinion that Bennett & Taven will be going back to New Japan to feud with DOC and Gallows or at least get a title shot then having Anderson lose to them makes sense. Plus the idea of a Bullet Club member just picking up a random partner doesn't really work for me. But I do hate having 1 guy facing two teams. I don't know where guys like Kenny Omega or even Cody Hall are working but it wouldn't have hurt to bring them in as well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim Posted March 2, 2015 Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 I've liked this show quite a lot outside of Strong/Whitmer, which I couldn't even muster the interest to watch and just browsed the internet while it was on in the background. Like this show a lot more than any of the PPVs last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jushin muta liger Posted March 2, 2015 Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 Is Sinclair's budget that tight that they couldn't pay another guy to fill in for Doc Gallows? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeCampbell Posted March 2, 2015 Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 Is Sinclair's budget that tight that they couldn't pay another guy to fill in for Doc Gallows? Not that I think sending Karl out by himself was a good idea, but, what's the alternative, other than scrapping Karl from the match? Pair him up with Romantic Touch? Tight budget or not, it's pretty stupid to spend the coin to fly in another Bullet Club member, like Fale or Tonga, if they're not planning on using them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted March 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 Why did Gallows miss the match? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stomperspc Posted March 2, 2015 Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 I'll talk more on the podcast about this, but not filling Gallows spot on the show comes across as so bush league, and there were easy ways they could have solved it I didn't see it as a huge deal but I am surprised they didn't do something about it. I was thinking they might have done something with Joe there, either have him team with Anderson which could have created a "is Joe in the Bullet Club?" question or pull Anderson from the match entirely. He could have made an open challenge which Joe would answer, have a hot brawl, and that would be that. As hammerva mentioned, if the idea was to have Bennett/Taven get a pin to set up a future IWGP tag title match (likely in the US in May), then Anderson needed to stay in the match and couldn't have Joe as his partner. Rocky Romero was there but you would have had the Bullet Club/Chaos issue with teaming them up. Not sure there was a great solution although I do agree having him wrestle alone was weak. Why did Gallows miss the match? Stuck in Detroit (he wrestled for OMEGA last night in NC) because of weather delays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jushin muta liger Posted March 2, 2015 Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 Why did Gallows miss the match? He was flying out of Detroit and the bad weather has him stuck there. Also, last PPV they had ACH come out with a Bullet Club shirt with the Young Bucks so it's not in the realm of possibility of throwing a random person with Anderson. Honestly, I would've took Anderson out of the match and had him on commentary and do an angle after the match. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted March 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 Joe is back! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stomperspc Posted March 2, 2015 Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 Joe is back! That was a fun promo and the perfect place on the card for it. The 2004 cage match Joe had with Jay Briscoe was excellent and they had some other decent stuff in the 2003/2004 mini-feud Joe had with the Briscoes. I would be pretty psyched if they run that WM weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Waco Posted March 2, 2015 Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 I have some great suggestions for who could have replaced Gallows, but I'm saving them for my VoicesofWrestling review/post show podcast Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tim Posted March 2, 2015 Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 Wooow that main event sucked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goodhelmet Posted March 2, 2015 Author Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 Main event was a clusterfuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stomperspc Posted March 2, 2015 Report Share Posted March 2, 2015 Way too much extracurricular stuff for one match. I get what they were going for in each case and it wasn't like anything was a terrible idea on its own, but just far too much. The match probably would have been dull without all that stuff, but what happened wasn't any better at all. Jay lucking into the pin was a cute nod to the PPV theme but not sure it is ever a good idea to have the champion appear lucky in retaining his title. They way overthought that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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