Cap Posted December 24, 2016 Report Share Posted December 24, 2016 I just watched that Delta vs Galactar match yesterday (because of this thread) and thought it was really fun. If I made a top 10 it would probably be around 9 or 10, just thinking through what I ranked from this year. I also just watched that Hero vs Gresham match (again, because of this thread) and it is awesome. It is the perfect example of how there is more than one way to create an epic, classic match. This is just such a brilliantly nuanced match that mixes fun engaging action with attention to detail and clear, (I think overtly) deliberate storytelling. The way they committed to playing off the size and power vs technique and speed dynamic was was entertaining. I am still a little torn on how I feel about the ending, but it is one of those cases where I think if this were the 80s I wouldn't think twice about it and I like that kind of throwback. Even still, I think I had DIY vs Revival at number one the other day in another thread, but the more I think about it the more I think Trauma I vs Canis Lupus was probably the best match I have seen this year for the reasons listed in this thread already. I thin it gets extra points for being such a brilliant and intense apuestas match in 2016. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted December 24, 2016 Report Share Posted December 24, 2016 Lupus-Trauma for being awesome vs DIY-Revival for being awesome and being there live. One of those two will be number one,but I'm having trouble negating the live bias. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap Posted December 24, 2016 Report Share Posted December 24, 2016 It is razor to me and I couldn't blame anyone for going either way, but for me it comes down to if you asked me to pick one of them to rewatch I think most of the time I am probably picking Trama vs Lupus. I could change my tune tomorrow, so I will likely use this as an excuse to rewatch both of them one day before the end of the year... ya know... for research. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joeg Posted December 24, 2016 Report Share Posted December 24, 2016 Canis Lupus vs Trauma was the best match this year by a snowy country mile. This wasn't just match of the year, I'd say it was easily one of my favorite matches from the past 10-15 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Waco Posted December 24, 2016 Report Share Posted December 24, 2016 Lupus v Trauma is one of the best brawls ever. DIY v Revival is the best WWE tag ever and one of the best tags ever. SCI Final is the best live experience I've ever had at wrestling and the best multi-man match I've ever seen. All three are so hard to rate to me that I don't really know what to do with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap Posted December 24, 2016 Report Share Posted December 24, 2016 Lupus v Trauma is one of the best brawls ever. DIY v Revival is the best WWE tag ever and one of the best tags ever. SCI Final is the best live experience I've ever had at wrestling and the best multi-man match I've ever seen. All three are so hard to rate to me that I don't really know what to do with it. SCI Final? Canis Lupus vs Trauma was the best match this year by a snowy country mile. This wasn't just match of the year, I'd say it was easily one of my favorite matches from the past 10-15 years. I can respect that. I can't think of a recent match that stuck with me like it did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bierschwale Posted December 24, 2016 Report Share Posted December 24, 2016 Lupus v Trauma is one of the best brawls ever. DIY v Revival is the best WWE tag ever and one of the best tags ever. SCI Final is the best live experience I've ever had at wrestling and the best multi-man match I've ever seen. All three are so hard to rate to me that I don't really know what to do with it. SCI Final? The Scenic City Invitational tournament. Anthony Henry vs. Chris Hero vs. Gunner Miller vs. Jimmy Rave, elimination rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap Posted December 24, 2016 Report Share Posted December 24, 2016 Lupus v Trauma is one of the best brawls ever. DIY v Revival is the best WWE tag ever and one of the best tags ever. SCI Final is the best live experience I've ever had at wrestling and the best multi-man match I've ever seen. All three are so hard to rate to me that I don't really know what to do with it. SCI Final? The Scenic City Invitational tournament. Anthony Henry vs. Chris Hero vs. Gunner Miller vs. Jimmy Rave, elimination rules. Ahhh... thanks. I heard that tournament was unreal good. I am going to have to buy this show soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoe Posted December 24, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 24, 2016 Tournament was incredible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoe Posted December 31, 2016 Author Report Share Posted December 31, 2016 7/17/16 Beyond Zach Sabre Jr. vs Jonathan Gresham 4 1/2* I thought this was a mat classic. A match that focused on the little things that had big payoffs to those things. We some grappling early. With both guys shooting for position and an advantage. Both guys have a stronger focus than their last match here. I really liked how they set up Gresham's rana here, and they made it seem very important. ZSJ is on the arm and is doing a lot of good work to it. Gresham is also working the arm, and it's really nasty. I liked ZSJ selling of the arm. He did a good job of making it seem ruined. So ZSJ switched up his attack and started using leg kicks. I liked this part of the story a lot. Gresham kept the heat on the arm by throwing forearms at ZSJ arm. Another nice touch, on a nearfall ZSJ couldn't hook the leg with his bad arm. This was great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoe Posted January 1, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 1, 2017 7/31/16 Beyond Zach Sabre Jr. vs Jonathon Gresham 4 1/2* This is 2 out of 3 falls and the 3rd match in Beyond. I really liked the build in this. It had a real sports rivalry feel to it. ZSJ in particular had a spring in his work to say this is personal. I thought Gresham's strikes were really weak looking early in the match.They played off stuff in the previous matches. An example of this was in match 2 Gresham hit a rana on ZSJ. Here ZSJ sweeps the leg and Gresham takes a neck bump. This set up ZSJ just going after the neck the rest of the way. Gresham would hurt ZSJ leg and just destroy it. Both guys were focused on a target and went at it. Their was a physical story being told, along with a mental one. I loved this match. 4 1/2* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoe Posted January 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 12/29/16 Beyond Chris Hero vs Keith Lee 4 1/4* This was a pretty awesome big boy fight. I liked that they did a play off of the Hero sucker punch spot. It was awesome to see someone match up with Hero in size. These guys really built to payoffs, and they made things matter. Hero has been a master of building a match, and it wasn't any difference here. These guys had a real good chemistry. A great way to end the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoe Posted January 2, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 2, 2017 My Final Top 10 1.9/4/16 IWRG Canis Lupus vs Trauma 1 5* 2.6/18/16 CWF Mid Atlantic Trevor Lee vs Andrew Everett 4 3/4* 3.7/16/16 Evolve Roddy Strong vs Matt Riddle 4 3/4* 4.7/16/16 Liga Elite La Park vs Rush 4 3/4* 5.2/28/16 Beyond Chris Hero vs Jonathan Gresham 4 3/4* 6.8/13/16 NJPW Naito vs Kenny Omega 4 3/4* 7.5/22/16 WWE Roman Reigns vs AJ Styles 4 3/4* 8..4/1/16 NXT Sami Zayn vs Nakamura 4 3/4* 9.11/19/16 NXT Revival vs DIY 4 1/2 10.8/6/16 SCI Jimmy Rave/Anthony Henry/Chris Hero/Gunner Miller 4 1/2* Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cap Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 Interesting final list. I have seen quite all but two of these and they are all well worth a mention. Good stuff Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimmas Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 My Final Top 10 1.9/4/16 IWRG Canis Lupus vs Trauma 1 5* 2.6/18/16 CWF Mid Atlantic Trevor Lee vs Andrew Everett 4 3/4* 3.7/16/16 Evolve Roddy Strong vs Matt Riddle 4 3/4* 4.7/16/16 Liga Elite La Park vs Rush 4 3/4* 5.2/28/16 Beyond Chris Hero vs Jonathan Gresham 4 3/4* 6.8/13/16 NJPW Naito vs Kenny Omega 4 3/4* 7.5/22/16 WWE Roman Reigns vs AJ Styles 4 3/4* 8..4/1/16 NXT Sami Zayn vs Nakamura 4 3/4* 9.11/19/16 NXT Revival vs DIY 4 1/2 10.8/6/16 SCI Jimmy Rave/Anthony Henry/Chris Hero/Gunner Miller 4 1/2* We share 4 matches, and 2 more from your list are in my top 15. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luchaundead Posted January 3, 2017 Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 My Final Top 10 1.9/4/16 IWRG Canis Lupus vs Trauma 1 5* 2.6/18/16 CWF Mid Atlantic Trevor Lee vs Andrew Everett 4 3/4* 3.7/16/16 Evolve Roddy Strong vs Matt Riddle 4 3/4* 4.7/16/16 Liga Elite La Park vs Rush 4 3/4* 5.2/28/16 Beyond Chris Hero vs Jonathan Gresham 4 3/4* 6.8/13/16 NJPW Naito vs Kenny Omega 4 3/4* 7.5/22/16 WWE Roman Reigns vs AJ Styles 4 3/4* 8..4/1/16 NXT Sami Zayn vs Nakamura 4 3/4* 9.11/19/16 NXT Revival vs DIY 4 1/2 10.8/6/16 SCI Jimmy Rave/Anthony Henry/Chris Hero/Gunner Miller 4 1/2* We share 4 matches, and 2 more from your list are in my top 15. Back to the drawing board Pete Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shoe Posted January 3, 2017 Author Report Share Posted January 3, 2017 My Final Top 10 1.9/4/16 IWRG Canis Lupus vs Trauma 1 5* 2.6/18/16 CWF Mid Atlantic Trevor Lee vs Andrew Everett 4 3/4* 3.7/16/16 Evolve Roddy Strong vs Matt Riddle 4 3/4* 4.7/16/16 Liga Elite La Park vs Rush 4 3/4* 5.2/28/16 Beyond Chris Hero vs Jonathan Gresham 4 3/4* 6.8/13/16 NJPW Naito vs Kenny Omega 4 3/4* 7.5/22/16 WWE Roman Reigns vs AJ Styles 4 3/4* 8..4/1/16 NXT Sami Zayn vs Nakamura 4 3/4* 9.11/19/16 NXT Revival vs DIY 4 1/2 10.8/6/16 SCI Jimmy Rave/Anthony Henry/Chris Hero/Gunner Miller 4 1/2* We share 4 matches, and 2 more from your list are in my top 15. Back to the drawing board Pete Here's to 2017 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dylan Waco Posted January 4, 2017 Report Share Posted January 4, 2017 Should have held off on these until BattleCade dropped. I'll leave it at that. Edit: That said, don't bump the SCI Final Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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