Barbecue Posted April 23, 2021 Report Share Posted April 23, 2021 There is no reason to be condescending over an Alexa Bliss nomination. If people are evaluating Dragon Gate wrestlers(and that isn't even the worst of the modern wrestlers being looked at) as potentially the best ever then this shouldn't bizarre for you. Not a great wrestler but her affinity for the supernatural is worth discussing. Would rank on my top 100 demonically possessed workers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NotJayTabb Posted April 23, 2021 Report Share Posted April 23, 2021 13 hours ago, strobogo said: I think you can be certain she's going to get a million more chances to put on good matches in high profile situations over the next 5 years The problem there is that, although she's currently in a prominent role, she's in a role that's almost certainly going to prevent her having good matches. Nothing The Fiend touches ends up being good to watch in the ring (miracle Bryan match and hilarious Goldberg squash excepted), and if Alexa starts wrestling more like Wyatt, she's going to be in the unwatchable category with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Posted April 23, 2021 Report Share Posted April 23, 2021 8 minutes ago, NotJayTabb said: The problem there is that, although she's currently in a prominent role, she's in a role that's almost certainly going to prevent her having good matches. Nothing The Fiend touches ends up being good to watch in the ring (miracle Bryan match and hilarious Goldberg squash excepted), and if Alexa starts wrestling more like Wyatt, she's going to be in the unwatchable category with him. I pictured Alexa Bliss' character gaining enough weight to wrestle like Wyatt and more or less came up with Bertha Faye. Rhonda would've deserved better too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoS Posted April 23, 2021 Report Share Posted April 23, 2021 On 4/22/2021 at 7:06 PM, Grimmas said: I think I value playing a role more than having the great matches, I dont' see her making it now but in 5 years she could, if things role her way. She has a lot of potential. She plays her role terribly. A dominant heel champ (since she won clean so many times, often squashing her opponents) who has shitty strikes, offence that mostly doesn't land and looks bad, and who has zero physical presence to make up for all of that? That's the opposite of playing a role well. She is a really talented out-of-ring performer and her character work is often excellent. But there is a reason why the fans were usually dead for her matches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoS Posted April 23, 2021 Report Share Posted April 23, 2021 On 4/22/2021 at 7:06 PM, Grimmas said: I think I value playing a role more than having the great matches, I dont' see her making it now but in 5 years she could, if things role her way. She has a lot of potential. She plays her role terribly. A dominant heel champ (since she won clean so many times, often squashing her opponents) who has shitty strikes, offence that mostly doesn't land and looks bad, and who has zero physical presence to make up for all of that? That's the opposite of playing a role well. She is a really talented out-of-ring performer and her character work is often excellent. But there is a reason why the fans were usually dead for her matches Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NintendoLogic Posted April 24, 2021 Report Share Posted April 24, 2021 The only Alexa matches I liked were the ones against Ronda. Having her gain some momentary heat by cheating or stalling before being thoroughly destroyed is the best possible use for her. The fact that she was pushed as a dominant heel for so long is an atrocity. And the notion that she could be considered one of the 100 greatest wrestlers who ever lived is preposterous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Microstatistics Posted April 26, 2021 Report Share Posted April 26, 2021 Yeah, this one is really pushing it. She's not bad at all but I'm not sure if she's currently even a Top 15 women wrestler in WWE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Prophet Posted April 26, 2021 Report Share Posted April 26, 2021 Her character and mic work are pretty good. The rest? Not really my cup of tea. Her offence on top I've never found engaging. The top rope splash she sometimes does is nice but she also looks scared of getting hurt if someone brings the knees up. She's one of the few women who aren't Nia Jax or Tamina Snuka that rarely take a proper bump in the ring. These things are pretty prominent across most of her matches since moving up to the main roster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMJ Posted yesterday at 08:48 PM Report Share Posted yesterday at 08:48 PM Well...4+ years later and I'm really considering her for the 95-100 range. Since 2021, despite time off, Bliss has gotten so reliably good that I find myself enjoying her work more often than not. Many posts above this, someone says she might be great as part of a tag team and, this past weekend, she was excellent teaming with Flair. It was a great match and she was the "glue" of it. Looking back, she's been consistently good in several multi-person matches over the years, specifically Elimination Chamber matches (2018, 2022, and 2025) and Money in the Bank matches (2018, 2021, and 2025). Generally speaking, I thought her matches against Charlotte, Nia, Mercedes, Rousey, and Bayley in 2017 and 2018 were all entertaining. More recently, she's had some good ones with Bianca Belair and Asuka. Speaking of Asuka, I thought their tag team in 2022 was solid. Ditto for the tag team with Nikki Cross. I'm not surprised that her and Flair have quickly gotten over with their storyline and were the stars of the tag match at Evolution. And, as for the Wyatt Family stuff, well...what is there to say about a gimmick that was once so promising and then, over time, turned into some of the worst segments and matches in wrestling history? And how much of that really is on Alexa anyway? On one hand, its unfortunate she will always have to carry around that doll and wear the Fiend-inspired coats and have to somehow make that work as part of a character with no supernatural elements. On the other hand, its a feather-in-her-cap that she was able to take that dogshit and not have it wreck her career because everyone else associated with the Bray Wyatt character has suffered from the link. If it were that easy to make lemonade out of those lemons (or a turkey dinner out of an albatross), we'd all be wearing "Mercy the Buzzard" tee-shirts with Dexter Lumis' face on them and they'd be selling Erick Rowan bunny ears by the truckloads. They're not. They're not going to. Nikki's ACH character was dumb, but her "Abby the Witch" character has replaced it as the worst thing she's done in WWE. And so, in a sense, if you're a Bray Wyatt superfan, you should probably be the BIGGEST Alexa Bliss fan. She's the only one left carrying on his true legacy of being a performer that brought smiles to millions of people's faces. And she's done that with poise and grace and by, hopefully, not having to be involved in any of the Wyatt Sicks garbage. With all that, and readily admitting that I often leave room in my top 100 - especially in those 90-100 spots - for personal favorites that I just really like to watch (this is where you might find John Tenta or Jimmy Golden), I think Alexa Bliss could make my list the same way that someone might put The Miz on their list. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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