Guest KCook Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 I'd think you could get Vince on drug conspiracy charges if you had a prosecutor putting real work into it. If I'm a crime lord, and I tell Bix and Loss that TomK is really pissing me off, and then Bix kills him while Loss doesn't, and I then fire Loss and promote Bix, I can easily be prosecuted for murder. Anyway, if McDevitt is as good as his reputation, that's where his effort is right now, not on vetting the PR stuff put out by the office blowup doll. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted September 7, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 Wait, why do I have to be the killer? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest BorgerTX Posted September 7, 2007 Report Share Posted September 7, 2007 Jew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boondocks Kernoodle Posted September 8, 2007 Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 Well, if everyone has more than two concussions, then that means everyone is brain damaged, which means wrestling is hazardous, which means it probably shouldn't exist. I'm a fan and I'm not actively hoping for anyone to bring it down or anything, but objectively, what's the argument for allowing it to continue as is when the status quo is pretty horrible?Couldn't you say the same for boxing and football? Well, at least about it being hazardous. Obviously those sports have governing bodies in place which will stop a person from competing if they are too fucked up. But couldn't a similar argument be made that those sports "probably shouldn't exist"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest KCook Posted September 8, 2007 Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 There are two differences for me, that also hold in MMA. The more important is that while highly imperfect, there are structures in place to identify and prevent concussions. God knows they're imperfect, and I hope the pressure to improve them keeps up, but they are there. The other is that these are real sports; the head injuries are incidental to honorable competition, which I consider something worthy. In wrestling, head injuries can't be eliminated any more than they can be eliminated from bartending, but they can be greatly minimized. Instead you have loons pretending it's real by belting each other with chair shots and shoot suplexes for whatever reason. This isn't an argument for outlawing wrestling, but just for why I'd spend money on boxing, MMA, or football, while at this point I won't spend a dime on pro wrestling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted September 8, 2007 Report Share Posted September 8, 2007 Didn't HHH also legit KO a ref in the same incident where he knocked Benoit senseless? Was there ever an explanation given for that, did someone piss in his Wheaties that morning? Or did he just feel like swinging for the fences on the heads of two of his co-workers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smkelly Posted September 9, 2007 Report Share Posted September 9, 2007 Two concussions equals brain damage? Damn. I've had numerous documented concussions. I've had two Grade V concussions. Once in high school football, and other in the Marine Corps. I HAVE BRAIN DAMAGE! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted September 9, 2007 Report Share Posted September 9, 2007 Two concussions equals brain damage? Damn. I've had numerous documented concussions. I've had two Grade V concussions. Once in high school football, and other in the Marine Corps. I HAVE BRAIN DAMAGE! Brain damage doesn't mean someone's a vegetable or some kind of slack-jawed imbecile. It just means that your brain's capacity is probably lesser than it would be had you not taken so many shots to your dome. I found a breakdown of concussion grades on Wikipedia: 1. The mildest, grade I, involves only confusion.[9] 2. Grade II involves anterograde amnesia that lasts less than five minutes as well as confusion. 3. Grade III involves the symptoms above, as well as retrograde amnesia and unconsciousness for less than five minutes.[9] 4. Grade IV involves all of the above symptoms, as well as unconsciousness that lasts between 5 and 10 minutes.[9] 5. Grade V is the same as grade IV, with unconsciousness lasting longer than ten minutes. Shit, you had 2 Grade V's? You must be the Keith Richards of brain trauma. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smkelly Posted September 9, 2007 Report Share Posted September 9, 2007 I guess, I don't even know who that is though. I do get awful migraines occasionally, and even though my memory is terrific, it sometimes botches out on me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim Evans Posted September 9, 2007 Report Share Posted September 9, 2007 You don't know who Keith Richards is? Member of the Rolling Stones? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted September 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2007 Two concussions equals brain damage? Damn. I've had numerous documented concussions. I've had two Grade V concussions. Once in high school football, and other in the Marine Corps. I HAVE BRAIN DAMAGE! I guess, I don't even know who that is though. I do get awful migraines occasionally, and even though my memory is terrific, it sometimes botches out on me. You seem to be in denial about it, but you're kinda fucked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jingus Posted September 9, 2007 Report Share Posted September 9, 2007 "Fucked" may be a bit strong. The human brain is such a staggeringly complex organ that it's impossible to say the exact effect that two concussions would have on it. There's plenty of other variables involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted September 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2007 He said he's had numerous, the "two" were just his Grade Vs. The big talking point this week was that three is the number where things get permanent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted September 9, 2007 Report Share Posted September 9, 2007 Not to mention reoccurring migraines being a symptom of Post Concussion Syndrome. I think it's what made Steve Young retire from football. Of course no one here can diagnose someone's brain over the web, but it doesn't sound good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted September 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2007 I remember the earlier Nowinski interviews (pre-SLI, I think) saying that his doctor said that if he ever ended up going a month without headaches, he'd be healed enough to return. It never happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjh Posted September 9, 2007 Report Share Posted September 9, 2007 Meanwhile, on the WWE website one of the headlines is "Rey Mysterio nearly had his skull caved in by The Great Khali". I know Smackdown was taped before the results of Benoit's brain examination came out, so they had already shot the angle where Khali laid out Mysterio with a head crush, but it would really be prudent to avoid hyperbole like skulls nearly being caved in at the moment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smkelly Posted September 9, 2007 Report Share Posted September 9, 2007 Eh. I haven't had it checked out in some time, but when I did go through the cat scan last November (due to a serious roll over car accident (which gave me a concussion)), they did notice some damage. The Doctor never specified how serious the damage was, or if I should be worried. I just kind of pushed it out of my mind that my brain has been damaged. Not exactly something I want to dwell on. I have had quite a few concussions. Most of them were either Grade 0 or 1. But I have had two Grade V's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted September 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2007 It's at the point where they must be intentionally baiting people with stuff like this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smkelly Posted September 9, 2007 Report Share Posted September 9, 2007 I wish they'd show this chair shot as well: Hardy Boyz waffle Lesnar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sek69 Posted September 9, 2007 Report Share Posted September 9, 2007 It's at the point where they must be intentionally baiting people with stuff like this. Holy shit, that's got to be the biggest example of either crassness or just having huge fucking balls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smkelly Posted September 9, 2007 Report Share Posted September 9, 2007 It'd be worse if they had one with all of the known concussions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted September 9, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2007 I wish they'd show this chair shot as well: Hardy Boyz waffle Lesnar Geez, Jeff hit him with the "wrong" part of the chair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smkelly Posted September 9, 2007 Report Share Posted September 9, 2007 Not only that, but he hit Lesnar in the forehead/face instead of the top of the head. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted September 11, 2007 Author Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 They pulled the chairshot article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdw Posted September 11, 2007 Report Share Posted September 11, 2007 They pulled the chairshot article. That's pretty funny. I wonder what website they're monitoring where that was discussed and thought, "Oh shit... pull that quick!" Too bad someone didn't grab all of it. John Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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