Phil Schneider Posted September 8, 2025 Posted September 8, 2025 Did I miss Pantera on your list of guys, we just had him in for DEAN 3, and he looked fucking awesome. Hechicero is a guy with enough of a resume at this point to be considered too (also looked awesome on Saturday)
TheBean Posted Wednesday at 10:22 PM Posted Wednesday at 10:22 PM Just want to say this is a great post by cad! Invaluable as I start to get into lucha libre. Just wanted to bump this also in case anyone else is interested.
cad Posted Thursday at 07:25 AM Author Posted Thursday at 07:25 AM Thanks, I appreciate it. I hope you do get into lucha and find plenty here to disagree with.
Microstatistics Posted 12 hours ago Posted 12 hours ago Lucha took a real hiding this time but it's not too surprisingly because the stylistic disconnect from the Japanese/American styles is just too much for the majority of people. Hell, I'm not one to talk since, aside the tippy top guys and a few around the upper-middle regions of the list (Hechicero, Casas, Pirata), my list featured far fewer luchadores than it did in the past. I mean Santo & Satanico are unreal and there is high-end lucha I really cherish, but I think I am now aligned with the general consensus that Mexico is a distant #3, relative to Japan and USA, when it comes to professional wrestling.
Tetsujin Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago Lucha has ten really interesting years going forward. Both WWE and AEW are getting stronger within it, be it with AAA or CMLL, and while the consequences of that for current Lucha might be concerning, I ask myself if it's possible that both big American companies showcasing mexican wrestling to a broader audience might get more people interested in its past.
ohtani's jacket Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 9 hours ago, Microstatistics said: Lucha took a real hiding this time but it's not too surprisingly because the stylistic disconnect from the Japanese/American styles is just too much for the majority of people. Hell, I'm not one to talk since, aside the tippy top guys and a few around the upper-middle regions of the list (Hechicero, Casas, Pirata), my list featured far fewer luchadores than it did in the past. I mean Santo & Satanico are unreal and there is high-end lucha I really cherish, but I think I am now aligned with the general consensus that Mexico is a distant #3, relative to Japan and USA, when it comes to professional wrestling. Well, I dunno about that. It has a rich wrestling history. It just needs to be curated better.
Matt D Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Lucha can be very vibes based. It’ll be pretty funny if the kids find and glom onto Octagon and Rayo, Jr. or something.
ohtani's jacket Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 1 hour ago, Matt D said: Lucha can be very vibes based. It’ll be pretty funny if the kids find and glom onto Octagon and Rayo, Jr. or something. There's probably morality play stuff that might resonate with the younger crowd.
Scarletlikesounds Posted 16 minutes ago Posted 16 minutes ago 2 hours ago, Matt D said: Lucha can be very vibes based. It’ll be pretty funny if the kids find and glom onto Octagon and Rayo, Jr. or something. I can totally see fans my age being really high on Octagon
Scarletlikesounds Posted 8 minutes ago Posted 8 minutes ago Ive watched some more stuff even since I've voted In GWE and now I would probably vote for: Hijo Del Santo LA Park El Satanico Negro Casas Silver King Black Terry Virus Perro Aguayo Hechicero Misterio Jr. Wagner Jr. El Dandy Villano III Demus I voted Mistico this year really high but I'm not entirely sure about him, a lot of that was recency bias. I could still see it though. I need to go back and watch some more Sangre Chicana. I've really liked what I've seen from Emilio Charles Jr. but I'm not set on that yet. It turns out I REALLY like Silver King, Texano too but King specifically.
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