Marty Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 http://www.silvervision.co.uk/product.asp?pf_id=WWE1203 This is a three disc set with a comprehensive professional biography and more than two discs filled with matches spanning the 30+ year career of the ‘Nature Boy.” It’s filled with exclusive footage from WrestleMania weekend, as well as the emotional sendoff Ric received at Raw the night after WrestleMania XXIV, including footage that never aired on television. Features several matches that have never before been released on DVD, from Mid-Atlantic, World Class Championship Wrestling, WCW, and more. Disc 1 Beginnings Plane Crash The Nature Boy Traveling Champion Slick Ric The Role of a Champion The Four Horsemen The Clash with Sting Slaying the Dragon Hardcore with Terry Funk From Crockett to WCW The Real World Champion Troubles in WCW Success in WWE Evolution WrestleMania 24 Weekend Farewell to Flair Flair Stories Too Many Distractions Buying Boots Bleaching His Hair Hanging with the Outlaws Ric’s Relationship with the Members of Evolution Key to the City March 24, 2008 Ric Flair Tribute Video Disc 2 Jack Brisco vs. Ric Flair Mid-Atlantic Championship Wrestling (18/08/82) 2 out of 3 Falls Match for the NWA World Heavyweight Championship Kerry Von Erich vs. Ric Flair World Class Championship Wrestling (24/08/82) NWA World Heavyweight Championship Match Ric Flair vs. Harley Race Mid-Atlantic Championship Wrestling (31/08/83) Ric Flair / Arn Anderson / Ole Anderson vs. Dusty Rhodes / Magnum TA / Manny Fernandez World Wide Wrestling (15/12/85) NWA World Heavyweight Championship Match Sting vs. Ric Flair Clash of the Champions (27/03/88) NWA World Heavyweight Championship Match Ric Flair vs. Terry Funk Great American Bash (23/07/89) Disc 3 Ric Flair vs. “Rowdy” Roddy Piper Madison Square Garden (28/10/91) WCW Championship Ric Flair vs. Ricky Steamboat Spring Stampede (17/04/94) Steel Cage Match for the WWE Intercontinental Championship Triple H vs. Ric Flair Taboo Tuesday (01/11/05) Career Threatening Match Ric Flair vs. Shawn Michaels WrestleMania 24 (30/03/08) Extras Ric Flair’s Farewell Address RAW (31/03/08) Promos Limousine Drivin’ Jet Flyin’ Stylin & Profilin’ – NWA World Championship Wrestling May 25, 1985 Take a Ride on Space Mountain – NWA World Championship Wrestling June 22, 1985 The Boss – NWA World Championship Wrestling August 17, 1985 Slick Ric – NWA World Championship Wrestling September 7, 1985 Real Men Stay Up – NWA World Championship Wrestling September 21, 1985 What’s Causing All This – NWA World Championship Wrestling December 20, 1985 Space Mountainettes – NWA World Championship Wrestling April 7, 1987 Golden Spoon – NWA World Championship Wrestling November 13, 1987 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 They actually did an excellent job choosing matches for Disc 2. I wish they wouldn't call it "definitive" though, because they could do several 3-disc sets, all with new material, and keep it coming for a long time. "Definitive" suggests this is it. It's also a nit-picky thing, but I wish some of the promos were from Pro or Worldwide, just because they were usually done in front of a backdrop in an arena or at ringside. The atmosphere was more lively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjh Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 Personally I would have preferred them to have omitted the documentary altogether, so more time could be given to his classic matches and promos. Between his book, other DVD releases and his HOF speech, his thoughts on the plane crash, the Horseman, his legendary rivals and his clashes with Jim Herd and Eric Bischoff behind the scenes in WCW are well known and I doubt Ric will have much new to say about them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Morris Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 Personally I would have preferred them to have omitted the documentary altogether, so more time could be given to his classic matches and promos. Between his book, other DVD releases and his HOF speech, his thoughts on the plane crash, the Horseman, his legendary rivals and his clashes with Jim Herd and Eric Bischoff behind the scenes in WCW are well known and I doubt Ric will have much new to say about them. Perhaps not, but there is certain to be some additional insight given by some of the people who were part of Ric Flair's career. I would imagine we'd get some insight from Greg Valentine, Ricky Steamboat, and maybe Harley Race. Obviously, Arn Anderson is going to be giving input. And given that Big Show put over Flair on Flair's final Raw, I wonder if we'll get some insight from him. Would be nice to get a perspective of other current WWE'ers other than just HHH and Shawn (who you know will get quoted extensively). On the matches selected, there are some good ones, but the Flair/Steamboat match chosen is a bit of a head scratcher. I know at least one of their 1989 matches was on the first Flair DVD (which I still need to buy... that's why I'm not positive if just one or more than one from 1989 exist), and then Dave Meltzer mentioned today that Flair and Steamboat had a match in 1993 on Clash of the Champions that was better than the Stampede match. Not to say the Stampede match was bad... it was pretty good, but they had better matches than that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted May 12, 2008 Report Share Posted May 12, 2008 The match that Meltzer's referring to was for the held-up belt on WCW Saturday Night in May '94. It's a much better match than the PPV. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Morris Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 The match that Meltzer's referring to was for the held-up belt on WCW Saturday Night in May '94. It's a much better match than the PPV. Yes, it was 1994... my mistake in referring to 1993 previously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loss Posted May 13, 2008 Report Share Posted May 13, 2008 In the Stampede match, Flair appeared to have been a victim of a messed up haircut. That's all I remember about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrestlingPower Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 Was there no documentary on the first set? I'm guessing not as I seem to remember that having a lot more matches. What's listed here looks good, especially since WWF material is de-emphasized, but upon first look it looks like a low quantity of matches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bix Posted May 14, 2008 Report Share Posted May 14, 2008 The first set didn't have a proper documentary, just some stuff around the matches. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marty Posted May 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted May 15, 2008 The technical aspect I really dug about Flair's first set was how you could select the chapters individually (the particular matches) and once they were done, the program would go back to the chapter menu, which had the extras for each given match. This was really cool, because you could play certain extras before and after the match if you choose, to get a neat idea of the angles and such at the time. For example, for Starrcade 83, you could play Race announcing the bounty, Slater and Orton jumping Flair, Flair coming back with a bat, Flair announcing "a Flair for the Gold", the pre-match interviews, THEN watch the match, then play the extras right after. The Race match was the best one for this, IMO, but they did a fine job with all the others too. I still say it's the best WWE DVD release for that reason. No release they've ever done has captured the feeling of those old angles and storylines like that set did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Morris Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 I bought the DVD yesterday. Kmart had it for a really good price, I thought. The documentary is done quite well. They pulled some interview bits from previous DVDs, such as bits from Tully Blanchard, Arn Anderson and J.J Dillon from the Horsemen DVD. Jim Cornette is also interviewed... I didn't get the first Flair set but I presume he had some comments from that one. There are also bits from some wrestlers who were certainly asked about Flair when doing bits for previous DVDs, such as Greg Valentine and Kevin Von Erich. What was a really nice touch was WWE talking to David Crockett. It was good to get that perspective from him. They did go into pretty good detail about the plane crash Flair was involved in and put over how he managed to come back despite being told he would never wrestle again. One thing I didn't like was how they portrayed the timeline of Ted Turner and Jim Herd not coming along until after Flair's series with Steamboat and Terry Funk in 1989. They also made no mention of why Flair insisted on waiting for Sting to get the title and it's portrayed as if Flair wanting Sting to get the belt was a reason he left in 1991. Also, I'm surprised they never had Flair bring up the Spartacus idea, which I think was really the straw that broke the camel's back. I'm surprised they didn't mention anything about David Flair entering the wrestling business for a few years. They talk to him quite a bit about what family life was like, but it would have been interesting to get that perspective from him and Ric about trying to follow in his father's footsteps. EDIT: One disappointment was that they never had any insight from Ricky Steamboat. Not sure why. I didn't see Raw when the Flair farewell aired and it was nicely done. The extra stuff with Undertaker was also very good... nice to see the WWE allow Undertaker to break character in front of a live audience. Even if it wasn't shown on TV, it was nice to have that included on the DVD. Haven't had a chance to watch the matches, but the documentary part was done well for the most part. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjh Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 Also, I'm surprised they never had Flair bring up the Spartacus idea, which I think was really the straw that broke the camel's back. I got the sense from Flair's book that Herd came up with the Spartacus idea long before Flair was fired from the company. Kevin Sullivan was on the booking committee at the time and he had left the company by the summer of 1990. The straw that broke the camel's back was Herd wanting to cut Flair's pay by half when his contract came due and Flair subsequently using the title belt as leverage to keep his old deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boondocks Kernoodle Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 I like how when David Crockett talks about "people with no talent," they show a clip of DDP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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