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[1992-10-21-AJPW-October Giant Series] Mitsuharu Misawa vs Toshiaki Kawada
Loss replied to Loss's topic in October 1992
What a match! Not sure why I was down on this when I watched it last, but I am definitely not now. They would have better matches over the next few years, but there's a charm this match has that makes it special -- Misawa and Kawada are still tag team partners and no one really had any idea of what to expect when they locked up. Kawada showed he meant business right away by turning a simple side headlock into a backdrop driver, and the match never really looked back. Some of my favorite nearfalls are in this match that are totally made by crowd reaction. They don't quite have some of the standard sequences and counters yet that they have in later matches, and this is a simpler match than later Misawa/Kawada. But I consider that a good thing -- it's a high-middle guy challenging the new top guy, and it doesn't need much more than that to make it work. This is an interesting comparison to Bret/Davey Boy. That's the best WWF match of the year. This may not even be in the top five AJ matches of the year, but it smokes it.- 19 replies
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Very good, high-energy tag match. New Japan has had lots of dull patches in '92, but this is one of the better all-native heavies matches of the set. They cut a nice pace, and Hash and Hase, as always, look really good against each other. I also continue to like Sasaki trying to work at a level above what he can do because he wants to be really good, although here, he doesn't look like he's trailing behind the others so much.
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[1992-10-17-WCW-Saturday Night] Up Close w/Paul E. Dangerously
Loss replied to Loss's topic in October 1992
This was awesome, but it also shows how little Watts thought of Paul E. and how far he had fallen out of big programs at this point. He hasn't been on TV for a while and they say it's because he's been scouting the world looking for new talent. He throws some insults toward Madusa and Tony drops a bombshell that Rude wants to meet with him to discuss the open contract Paul E. signed on his behalf for Havoc. He freaks out and leaves. It's a topic I've never heard too much talk about and I would be interested in hearing more -- what was the deal with Watts and Heyman, and why was he not pushed more during the time Watts was running WCW? I'm guessing Paul E.'s relatively large contract had something to do with it, and I know about them catching him falsifying expense reports, but I'm guessing there's more than that.- 10 replies
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[1992-10-17-WCW-Saturday Night] Cactus Jack & The Barbarian training
Loss replied to Loss's topic in October 1992
Simmons needed a bigger name to work with right out of the gate in order to draw, but this was really well done.- 10 replies
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Decent video of football highlights and footage from a dark match against Mark Canterbury.
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Fairly hot segment, but credit that to DWB and Wright working their butts off to get heat on Horner.
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[1992-10-17-SMW-TV] Rock & Roll Express and Mama Cornette
Loss replied to Loss's topic in October 1992
The surprise is that the Rock & Rolls have found a picture of Mama Cornette! They will unveil it later on the show. Cornette is on Down and Dirty later and says no way will they show a picture of her. Later, Morton reveals a picture of a dog in curlers. Cornette sells this big time, and his ridiculous reaction saves this, but whaaaa...- 10 replies
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Oh, yeah, and he was clearly trying to take Liz from Savage before the Mega Powers exploded.
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* Being scared of Andre at Survivor Series '87, being tagged and lying about it * Not returning Paul Orndorff's calls * Giving Savage the third degree about losing matches in early '96 * Using chairs in plain sight of the referee and not getting DQ'd because he's Hogan * Pretending to be concerned about Bret Hart so he could take the title from Yokozuna * Calling Sting a "vulture" in '95 when Sting was his friend
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The most historic night in the history of this great sport
Loss replied to JerryvonKramer's topic in Pro Wrestling
The best day for in-ring ever is an interesting conversation. 4/16/94 is being mentioned because of the praise the matches have already gotten, but anyone who has the '92 yearbook who is paying attention knows that 2/29/92 should be in the conversation too -- great matches in the U.S. (SuperBrawl II), Mexico (UWA trios match) and Japan (Kanehara/Maeda in UWFI) on the same day. -
Dylan, what do you think of the Luger match?
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This feels so completely disconnected from everything else, not even in the world, but including in the WWF. The 70s music combined with the old clips and the attempt to humanize him in a company where he's alongside cartoon characters just doesn't add up. I'm a fan of Backlund's comeback, but this is bizarre stuff.
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[1992-10-17-WWF-Superstars] Update: The Ultimate Maniacs and more
Loss replied to Loss's topic in October 1992
The Ultimate Maniacs do an awesomely incoherent promo congratulating Bret Hart for his title win. Both Warrior and Flair himself refer to Flair as "Nature Boy", so I guess someone decided that nickname was now acceptable.- 6 replies
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Excellent match. I'm not sure what to expect with UWA because of the February classic featuring many of these guys, and also because these matches have never really been talked about all that much. This isn't as seamless as the 2/29 match, but it's still very good and has a lot of interesting spots that would eventually be fleshed out in Michinoku Pro.
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Jumbo's last chronological match on any yearbooks. There's a feeling of unspoken finality in the post-match celebration, which is likely a case of me reading too much into things, but the post-match stuff goes a little longer than normal. Taue, like in most matches during these few weeks, is put in a position to be the workhorse for his team and look strong with the finish, this time getting the pin over Kikuchi. There are better six-mans, but this is another very good one. End of an era.
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Bret wins the WWF title for the first time! Even though this was buried on Coliseum Video (according to Bret because Flair refused to put him over on TV), this is still a really good moment. And they're both crazy, they work really well together. Neither is in the top 5 or 10 best opponents for the other guy, but they had consistently good matches. This wasn't as good as the Ironman match, but it was better than all but a handful of WWF matches in '92.
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[1992-10-10-WCW-Saturday Night] Cactus Jack and Jake Roberts
Loss replied to Loss's topic in October 1992
Jim Ross is afraid to be near the snake, so Cactus conducts the interview. Awesome.- 10 replies
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The Erik Watts push begins. Yes, he wasn't ready for this push, but it's not as annoying in hindsight, considering how much bad stuff we have seen in wrestling since. I wish there was a company now where the worst thing was just that the promoter's son was getting a midcard push.
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[1992-10-10-WCW-Saturday Night] Cactus Jack & The Barbarian training
Loss replied to Loss's topic in October 1992
Barbarian training in the ring with Coach Cactus Jack. I really LOVED these, and thought it was great that Watts found a way to keep Cactus involved despite his injury.- 10 replies
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[1992-10-10-WCW-Saturday Night] Contract Signing: Sting vs Jake Roberts
Loss replied to Loss's topic in October 1992
They didn't do an obvious, stupid angle! They just let them do some serious talking. This show was hyped well, no wonder it drew.- 9 replies
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Bill Watts recaps the history of the Lights Out match. This is so awesome that I feel I need to transcribe it: "A Lights Out Match. Just what do we mean by that designation? How did it all get started? In the late 60s and early 70s, probably the most innovative and aggressive promoter in wrestling was Eddie Graham of Florida. He was one of the staunch supporters of the National Wrestling Alliance and a member of its Board of Directors. As the oldest and most prestigious organization, its members were very conservative in that era, and their events were considered as sanctioned by the NWA. As with every type of event that competed for the entertainment dollar, participants were always pushing the parameters to accelerate the excitement level. Athletic creativity and intense personal rivalries sought newer and more potentially dangerous concepts to culminate their showdowns. From cage matches, then in Texas was born the Texas Death Match, then Boris Malenko created the Russian Chain Match, then Dusty Rhodes invented the Bullrope Match. In Tennessee, someone invented the Coal Miners Glove Match, the Scaffold Match, and somewhere else, the First Blood Match -- each of these new events more exciting and more dangerous. The NWA as a body did not want to officially be a party to or to sanction these type of matches. Thus Eddie Graham devised the Lights Out Match, which very simply is this: No, the match is not wrestled in the dark. It was just a symbolic turning off -- momentarily -- of the arena lights at the end of the officially sanctioned card to signify the end of that card, and to immediately turn the lights back on and have the unofficial or unsanctioned bout. Thus the term, Lights Out Match. Now with Jake the Snake versus Sting, again we have new parameters -- all of the most dangerous of these types of bouts, plus one not even revealed called the Spinner's Choice, have been placed upon a wheel of chance and called Spin the Wheel, Make the Deal. Because of this, WCW has designated it a Lights Out Match, a match not sanctioned by WCW. Because of the Spinner's Choice possibility, we're going one step further. We're having Jake the Snake and Sting sign a waiver absolving WCW of any liability. They assume all responsibility. They spin the wheel and make the deal."
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The glass from the broken bottle last week got in Ron Wright's eyes and he already has cataracts and now he's going to go blind! DWB is a decent enough worker and great enough talker that he should have gotten a real shot in the big leagues at some point. Then we get an interview from the Rock & Roll Express. Morton is an underrated talker. I should start joining Dylan in threads where he defends him. He promises a big, big surprise for Jim Cornette next week. He slips and calls the Bodies the Midnight Express but he catches himself.
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[1992-10-10-USWA-TV] Jerry Lawler & Jeff Jarrett vs The Moondogs
Loss replied to Loss's topic in October 1992
Clips from MSC, and while the action is still good, you can tell they've run this match into the ground by the smaller crowd, less heat and general staleness of the feud. That said, this is a hell of a brawl that we get more footage of than normal. The match is billed as anything goes, but the ref stops Lawler from using a piledriver. Lawler won't accept that, and ends up giving the ref a piledriver and the match gets thrown out. He's so mad about that that he piledrives him again! -
[1992-10-09-AAA-Sin Limite] Blue Panther vs Super Astro
Loss replied to Loss's topic in October 1992
In a world where Dandy/Casas or Atlantis/Emilio don't exist, this is the best singles match of the year in Mexico. On paper, I was excited by it, but I also was a little skeptical because it's AAA, and title matches in AAA aren't title matches in CMLL. But this may be the best AAA match ever. I already knew what Panther could do, but I haven't seen much Astro since I first got into lucha a few years back, so I sort of forgot how graceful he is. This is generally a mat-based match, but there is more flying mixed in than I thought there would be too. I know enough at this point to know that title matches are my favorite lucha libre matches, but while I say that, they aren't a guarantee of a great match every time out, even with two guys with strong reps. Dandy and Casas could do things no one else could do, but the same could be said of Panther and Astro in a different way. Tremendous work.- 17 replies