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Tony Schiavone and early 90s WCW announcing
Loss replied to JerryvonKramer's topic in Megathread archive
It's small beans, but the worst thing about Nitro announcing, especially with Bischoff, was the talking to fill space when they cut to commercial during a match, even when they didn't have anything to say. -
Tony Schiavone and early 90s WCW announcing
Loss replied to JerryvonKramer's topic in Megathread archive
Eric Bischoff. -
Jerry Jarrett not being in is to me the biggest and most overlooked omission of all.
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Reigns that really hurt or devalued a title
Loss replied to JerryvonKramer's topic in Megathread archive
Flair was still the top heel during that time, and was put over really strong in how he won the title at the Rumble. Angle was doing midcard comedy while holding the belt, which felt really weird. Remember the Eric Angle stuff, and the Raw where the Angles were in Christmas hats? (Something like that ...) -
I don't think Sting is a HOF guy, but he has a better case than many guys already in. On the slippery slope argument, he's a strong pick, but I hate using that as a determining factor.
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Edge drew television ratings opposite Ric Flair. Quite a few people can say that.
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The most historic night in the history of this great sport
Loss replied to JerryvonKramer's topic in Pro Wrestling
I always loved Vince's rationale for that, because it was a good one. He said he'd rather lose money on 700,000 buys than make money on 400,000 buys (the numbers he said may have been different, but that's the gist of what he said). -
IIRC, Watts brought him in in late '92/early '93 on a trial basis to see if he could still go, and then he ended up getting hired by the new regime after the Cactus match at Superbrawl. Watts may have been more inclined to push him that way.
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August spanned more discs than any month so far. Yet February and May had a better good to bad (well, great to good) ratio.
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The most historic night in the history of this great sport
Loss replied to JerryvonKramer's topic in Pro Wrestling
I wish all world title changes from long-term heel champs to babyfaces ended with the babyfaces filling the ring. I guess you need long-term heel champs to make that happen though. -
Reigns that really hurt or devalued a title
Loss replied to JerryvonKramer's topic in Megathread archive
Bret was a draw on international tours, and it gets forgotten, but the Hart Foundation stuff in '97 did start the ball rolling toward a rebound that led to the Attitude era. Diesel probably did get screwed in how he was portrayed, but I'd say that applies far more to Michaels than Diesel. He seemed like a guy with all the momentum in the world at the beginning of the year, but the Vince love killed him. You could argue that the announcer fawning hurt both Diesel and Shawn I think. -
The most historic night in the history of this great sport
Loss replied to JerryvonKramer's topic in Pro Wrestling
There is no right answer to this question. Each era has its own most important night, and fans of each era will view that era's most important night as wrestling's most important night. Not only would everything mentioned so far only have relevance to an American audience, but it also would have relevance to wrestling fans who grew up before Hulkamania. -
You do understand what it means though, right? Surely you can point to matches where guys go 30+ minutes and do all the stuff that's supposed to make a match great like tons of kickouts and blood, but the match is annoying because the guys involved just aren't good enough to pull that off. Self conscious epics most definitely exist. I don't think Cena/Punk was one, but we have seen them.
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Reigns that really hurt or devalued a title
Loss replied to JerryvonKramer's topic in Megathread archive
I've always wondered why that's less of a sticking point for Bret than it is for Warrior, Diesel and even Shawn. Bret wasn't a huge draw for the most part, but people also don't really look back at his time on top as a missed opportunity or failure in the way they do for the others. For whatever reason, they did less to try to change Bret than they did the other top babyfaces post-Hogan and pre-Austin. Vince really just let Bret be Bret. Maybe I just answered my own question. At the same time, during all of his time with the title, Bret never really had a big program with someone who was already an established name. Razor, Yoko, Owen, Shawn, Diesel and Austin were all guys who made their name facing him. I think the bigger issue with Warrior was that Gracious Loser Hulk Hogan at Mania created a setting where everyone felt sorry for Hulk losing his belt and wanted him to get it back. -
[1992-09-02-WCW-Clash of the Champions XX] Spin the Wheel Make the Deal
Loss replied to Loss's topic in September 1992
Ohhh boy. You know, this isn't quite as horrible as some of the other mini-movies, if only because Jake is awesome and almost makes this really hokey environment seem credible. Almost. Sting should get a sympathetic HOF vote for all the crap ideas and changes in leadership he endured during the WCW days. Madusa is around, I think just to make phallic innuendo with knives and the stick for the wheel. All the overly coordinated "ooooh"s from the onlookers is ridiculous.- 13 replies
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[1992-09-12-SMW-TV] Interview: The Fantastics / Interview: Heavenly Bodies
Loss replied to Loss's topic in September 1992
The Fantastics mention that in the rematch, Cornette will be handcuffed to Bob Armstrong at ringside. The Bodies and Cornette are getting crazy heat for their interview. Cornette's tie is way cool. They tease matches with the Rock & Rolls for the first time.- 9 replies
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- September 12
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Eddie brings out PWI and does a promo before the match. Gilbert takes exception to fans calling him Jerry Lawler Jr. Gilbert is proud to be ranked #5 in the world. He wants to be #1 though. Short match with Doug interfering liberally. Wild brawl that ends up involving Lawler, Reno Riggins and Mike Samples.
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[1992-09-12-USWA-TV] Interview: Buddy Landell / Interview: Tommy Rich
Loss replied to Loss's topic in September 1992
Buddy Landell is angry about his head being busted open and sends in a taped interview from his couch. But Budro has time on his side just like Mick Jagger. Awesome. Next, we get a promo from Tommy Rich. Two guys who sometimes disappear, and you forget how effective they are because their presence has been a little sporadic through the years.- 11 replies
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[1992-09-12-WWF-Superstars] Interview: Razor Ramon / Ric Flair celebration
Loss replied to Loss's topic in September 1992
I'm really getting tired of Flair and Perfect together because I see them as two different types of heels, so I'm glad that's coming to an end soon. Razor joins the celebration. I think Razor probably did get some rub early on just by being associated with Flair. -
[1992-09-09-AJPW-Summer Action Series II] Toshiaki Kawada vs Akira Taue
Loss replied to Loss's topic in September 1992
Kawada and Taue always come after each other with such hate that I still haven't seen a match between them that I haven't liked. Kawada heels it up in this one and Taue fights from underneath after a strong start, where you'd think otherwise after he piledrives Kawada on a table. Near the end, Taue makes a comeback that makes him look great, with Kawada become really desperate to escape pins, more so than normal. Kawada finally wins after multiple stretch plum attempts, with the move finally working. I suspected Kawada would go over since he's challenging for the Triple Crown in October, but they did a good job creating doubt over that near the end. Was Kawada helping him up after the match intended to foreshadow what would happen in '93?- 11 replies
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[1992-09-07-SMW-Shinnston, WV] Rock & Roll Express vs Heavenly Bodies
Loss replied to Loss's topic in September 1992
This may have been the first match in SMW between the two teams, I'm not sure. I like this better than the Loser Leaves Town cage match. It's similar to their Survivor Series '93 match as far as running through tons of classic tag team sequences and executing them very well, but it plays better because the crowd is more into it. The pre-match stuff where Cornette asks the audience to keep the noise down because of Stan Lane's busted eardrum is great.- 8 replies
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I didn't know this and I watched at the time. The announcers really should have mentioned it.
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Short, but really fun. You could argue this as making better use of the time than Sting/Cactus did a few months earlier. Not a wasted moment, and a pretty intense brawl to boot. I love Hayes asking if putting a foot on the railing would stop a pinfall count when they were laid out outside.
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[1992-09-06-WWF-Wrestling Challenge] Interview: Razor Ramon
Loss replied to Loss's topic in September 1992
Razor talks soooooo slow, but it's good to see that the vignettes have stopped at least, and the gimmick was a slam dunk. He calls out Savage. (Keep in mind the title change hadn't been aired on TV yet.)