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Yeah, Gorilla is better out of context than he probably was in context, at least for people who were longtime wrestling fans at the time the WWF boom started. Wrestling was completely different prior to that national expansion, and lots of hardcore, long-time fans hated everything associated with the sweeping changes going on in wrestling at the time.

Like 'em or not, DX is definitely the most over thing in WWE right now. If only they had a real tag team that was over to work with.

He even holds a win over the current world champ. Shows how much they think ahead.

Watch Pillman/Luger, and report back, please.

I see no reason why they should take a chance on TNA in that spot at this point, considering that their audience is at exactly the same level it was a year ago when they first went on Spike. Their PPV buys are even exactly the same. They've benefitted pretty much not at all from going national and signing Sting and Christian.

Added: Mitsuharu Misawa & Toshiaki Kawada v Akira Taue & Yoshinari Ogawa (AJPW 04/16/91) ***1/2 Mitsuharu Misawa v Jumbo Tsuruta (AJPW 04/18/91) ****1/4

Added: Toshiaki Kawada v Akira Taue (AJPW 04/18/91) ***3/4 Steve Williams & Terry Gordy v Stan Hansen & Dan Spivey (AJPW 04/18/91) ***3/4 Steve Williams & Terry Gordy v Toshiaki Kawada & Kenta Kobashi (AJPW 05/17/91) ***3/4 Mitsuharu Misawa & Tsuyoshi Kikuchi v Jumbo Tsuruta & Masa Fuchi (AJPW 05/17/91) **** Mitsuharu Misawa & Kenta Kobashi v Steve Williams & Terry Gordy (AJPW 05/20/91) ***1/2 Jumbo Tsuruta v Kenta Kobashi (AJPW 05/24/91) ****3/4 Mitsuharu Misawa & Toshiaki Kawada v Steve Williams & Terry Gordy (AJPW 06/01/91) **** Mitsuharu Misawa v Terry Gordy (AJPW 06/01/91) ****1/2

Added: Mitsuharu Misawa v Johnny Ace (AJPW 03/29/91) *** Jumbo Tsuruta v Akira Taue (AJPW 03/29/91) ***3/4 Jumbo Tsuruta v Toshiaki Kawada (AJPW 04/06/91) ****1/4

Added: Jumbo Tsuruta & Akira Taue v Steve Williams & Terry Gordy (AJPW 03/04/91) *** Toshiaki Kawada v Dan Kroffat (AJPW 03/23/91) ***1/4 Mitsuharu Misawa, Kenta Kobashi & Tsuyoshi Kikuchi v Jumbo Tsuruta, Akira Taue & Masa Fuchi (AJPW 03/23/91) ****1/4 Toshiaki Kawada & Tsuysohi Kikuchi v Masa Fuchi & Akira Taue (AJPW 03/26/91) ***1/2 Jumbo Tsuruta v Cactus Jack (AJPW 03/26/91) *** Mitsuharu Misawa & Kenta Kobashi v Stan Hansen & Dan Spivey (AJPW 03/26/91) ***1/4

He was just billed as The Assassin. Does the Cuban Assassin who worked Stampede wear a mask?

Added: Bobby Eaton v Steve Keirn (CWA 07/31/82, Marathon Match) ***3/4 Bobby Eaton v Bill Dundee (CWA 08/07/82) ***1/2 Dynamite Kid, Rip Oliver & The Assassin v Buddy Rose, Curt Hennig & Billy Jack Haynes (Portland 1983) ****1/4 Mitsuharu Misawa, Toshiaki Kawada & Tsuyoshi Kikuchi v Jumbo Tsuruta, Masa Fuchi & Akira Taue (AJPW 01/27/91) ****1/2 Mitsuharu Misawa & Kenta Kobashi v Steve Williams & Terry Gordy (AJPW 02/23/91) ***3/4 Jumbo Tsuruta & Masa Fuchi v Kenta Kobashi & Tsuyoshi Kikuchi (AJPW 02/26/91) **** Mitsuharu Misawa & Toshiaki Kawada v Steve Williams & Terry Gordy (AJPW 02/26/91) ****1/4

Added: Masa Fuchi v Tsuyoshi Kikuchi (AJPW 01/26/91) *** Mitsuharu Misawa v Akira Taue (AJPW 01/26/91) ***1/2 Jumbo Tsuruta & Mighty Inoue v Toshiaki Kawada & Kenta Kobashi (AJPW 01/26/91) ***1/4

Added: Mitsuharu Misawa & Toshiaki Kawada v Mighty Inoue & Masa Fuchi (AJPW 01/02/91) ***1/4 Toshiaki Kawada v Akira Taue (AJPW 01/15/91) ****1/2 Mitsuharu Misawa, Kenta Kobashi & Tsuyoshi Kikuchi v Jumbo Tsuruta, Masa Fuchi & Mighty Inoue (AJPW 01/15/91) ***1/2

9/23/81 is the date. Good match, no doubt, and one a lot of people like, but Andre and Inoki had a match in June of '84 that I think is even better, believe it or not.

Added: Kenta Kobashi & Tsuyoshi Kikuchi v Doug Furnas & Dan Kroffat (AJPW 05/25/92) ****1/2

Added: Terry Gordy v Jacques Rougeau (Alabama 1982) *** Terry Gordy v Kevin Von Erich (WCCW 01/21/83) ***1/4 Kerry, Kevin & David Von Erich v Michael Hayes, Buddy Roberts & Terry Gordy (WCCW 02/18/83 - Lumberjack Match) ***1/2 Terry Gordy & Buddy Roberts v Kevin & David Von Erich (WCCW 03/04/83) ***1/2 Michael Hayes, Buddy Roberts & Terry Gordy v Iceman Parsons, Kevin & David Von Erich (WCCW 05/20/83) ****1/2

Added: Yuki Ishikawa & Shoichi Funaki v Daisuke Ikeda & Katsumi Usuda (BattlARTS 01/13/96) ****1/4 Daisuke Ikeda v Shoichi Funaki (BattlARTS 04/06/96) ***1/4 Taka Michinoku v Minoru Tanaka (BattlARTS 08/04/96) ***1/2 Bret Hart v Steve Austin (WWF 11/17/96) ****1/4

Added: Ric Flair v Brian Pillman (NWA 02/13/90) ***3/4

2000 is the most successful year in WWF history. The first quarter of 2001 is the most successful three-month period in WWF history.

While I see the non-comparison point of view between WWE and UFC pretty easily, I also understand the other viewpoint pretty clearly. Both are in the business of promoting matches to the public through buildup and interviews, and UFC is currently better at promoting. WWE could probably learn a thing or two from UFC in terms of freshening up their presentation. Time to face facts -- the pro wrestling we grew up on is totally and completely dead. Thank God for DVDs.

Most of the time, that's probably true. Although, I do know Hall turned down big money to do a New Japan tour in 1996 when he was with WCW because he'd have to do a few jobs. That may have been more Bischoff than Hall though, I have no idea.

And they'd be wrong. I don't know how I'd compare that War Games to that Luger/Pillman match. Both are pretty awesome.

Pillman/Luger may be the best match on the set, and it will shock people.

Finished as in ... forever?

Pretty much any kid who watches wrestling on Monday nights. The difference between wrestling and movies is that movies don't attempt to blur the line between work and shoot.