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Of all the guys you mentioned, I don't know of anyone besides Flair that has wrestled a full schedule, putting in 200 dates a year or so in their late 50s. Many of the names you mentioned had novelty matches as they got older, but how many of them worked a full schedule at that old an age? That's the model Flair has created that others are trying to follow. Yes, what Hogan is doing working a limited number of matches on big shows isn't a new concept, but the idea of a 57-year old guy and a 25-year old guy working the same schedule is a pretty rare thing.

Sek also said I'm about to blow a gasket at you, which was never the case. I'm confused.

Sek thought Bob Barron was Dave O'Neill in a post he made at OLC, in case anyone was curious.

Yes, it was Summerslam '96.

Yeah, stopping and glaring is silly. Ric Flair and Terry Funk would have probably sold for them.

You know, I've never been the ROH board.

Yelling profanities at small children is supposed to be fun? Then again, using "they started it" as a defense is pretty childish on its own. My complaint was more with the way the recap was worded than anything, as if ROH is this mythical promotion beyond the realms of pro wrestling that is REAL~! and ATHLETIC~! unlike that sports entertainment crap that we see on Monday nights. It's just so annoying, and *screams* pretentious teenage bullshit. ROH is pro wrestling. Sometimes good and sometimes great, but it's not so far beyond what a casual fan could even comprehend. Or maybe it is, which is perhaps the problem with it. Who knows?

Japanese fans are anything but quiet for their favorites. What have you seen to make you think they're quiet? If anything, most of the matches start off and build to a really hot finish with the crowd getting more involved, but that's par the course for wrestling pretty much anywhere. As for children, the first thing that comes to mind is teenage girls going absolutely insane for 80s AJW when Dump Matsumoto and the Crush Girls were peaking in popularity. The sustained heat for a 60-minute match featuring 12 wrestlers at the end of '87 is so otherworldly in how long the shrieking and screaming is sustained that I don't even really know how to explain it properly.

This is the most nauseating recap of a show I think I've ever seen. http://www.wrestlingobserver.com/wo/news/h...t.asp?aID=17085 How ridiculous is this? They're kids at a wrestling show. What has the world ... possibly come to? This is why people bash ROH fans all the time.

Added: Ric Flair v Barry Windham (CWF 02/24/83) ***1/2 Harley Race v Barry Windham (CWF 07/04/83) ****1/4 Barry Windham v Ron Bass (CWF 1984) ****

Hogan failing a steroid test would be the funniest thing ever.

This happened two months ago.

Scaffold matches are dead, yeah. The best ones to see are probably the Midnight Express/Rock & Roll Express ones from Mid South. They're the only ones that I've seen that I've really liked.

I don't think it's necessarily important that Michaels lose the majority of the matches, as long as they're booked in a way where his opponent doesn't look like a chump, which does happen too much of the time. Michaels is a veteran, Shelton is climbing the ladder. It makes sense that Michaels would get the upper hand for at least some of the feud. And while I hate to admit this, we all argued Michaels going over Jericho being a bad move because Jericho would be there in the long haul and Michaels wouldn't. Three years later, who's still active and who is retired? What it comes down to is that Flair really needs to retire. As long as Flair keeps going, guys 5 years or 10 years younger than him will keep going, because they'll think if Flair can do it, they can do it. The difference is that Flair is apparently made of teflon and will probably be capable of taking bumps into his 70s. Hogan can't really do that in his 50s, and Michaels is maybe just as limited or more limited than Flair in his 40s.

What big matches does Michaels have left that he hasn't done? HHH, Vince, Hogan, Flair, Jericho, Benoit and Angle have already been done. Just Rock, and that match ain't happening.

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Wow. Brock went all Juventud Guerrera on New Japan.

And I'm not sure Rock would make that huge of a difference. WM XX probably would have gotten an identical number of buys with Foley v Orton instead of the six-man and no special ref for Goldberg/Lesnar.

I'm sure that was because of security reasons surrounding Sgt Slaughter's 'Iraqi Sympathiser' character. That was the kayfabed explanation, but it was moved because tickets weren't moving.

Hmm, yeah. Vince has been slowly building to a breaking point since RAW moved to USA. Embarrassment by a small turnout (not to say it will happen, but if it did) would probably finally drive him completely over the edge.

What is capacity at Ford Field?

Test was so damaged by bad booking that even with a few years away, he still seems like damaged goods. Never attempting revenge on HHH for marrying his fiance just totally and completely killed him.

I'd get the first 40 volumes of the NWA set going around from CMPunk5150 at Crazy Max. Golden stuff, covering lots of rare NWA title matches and great angles through 1986 from all the territories. Also, 1989 CMLL is awesome, and Fredo has tons of it. You could get 20 shows or so. Goodhelmet's comps are also perfect if you prefer to focus on one wrestler.