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I think 2002-2014 was a real low point for TNA.

Speaking of, I think Finlay is overrated. He works really stiff and his shit looks good, but I don't think his match layouts are really good most of the time, plus I think he has a tendency to eat up his opponents too much. I enjoy watching him because of his execution, but I think his matches sometimes lack psychology.

I always thought Malenko was decently over in WCW. Definitely more than someone like Finlay anyway. He definitely wasn't as over as Benoit and Eddy in WCW.

What is the context of that?

They wanted people to see Hogan before they went to bed.

All around me are familiar faces Worn out places Worn out faces Bright and early for their daily races Going nowhere Going nowhere Their tears are filling up their glasses No expression No expression Hide my head I wanna drown my sorrow No tomorrow No tomorrow And I find it kind of funny I find it kind of sad The dreams in which I'm dying are the best I've ever had I find it hard to tell you I find it hard to take When people run in circles it's a very very Mad world Mad world Mad world Mad world Children waiting for the day they feel good Happy birthday Happy birthday And to feel the way that every child should Sit and listen Sit and listen Went to school and I was very nervous No one knew me No one knew me Hello teacher tell me what's my lesson Look right through me Look right through me And I find it kind of funny I find it kind of sad The dreams in which I'm dying are the best I've ever had I find it hard to tell you 'Cos I find it hard to take When people run in circles it's a very very Mad world Mad world Mad World Mad world

GFW doesn't seem to be real.

Why did his attempts to get AJW wrestlers into ECW not pan out?

I do think a big part of the Flair criticism over signature spots is that he has signature defense just as much as he has signature offense. Bret has his sternum-first turnbuckle bump and Shawn has his flip, but Flair is mostly unique in that he has so much signature defense.

He usually does an admittedly weird looking punch thing. Sort of like Steamboat's, but not quite a chop. He's hit it quite a few times, actually, but rarely as a heel.

I think Ric Flair is really great.

This is me. I hated watching wrestling for a while after Benoit killed his family and himself, and this approach is what finally got me back into it. Every time I tried before that, I quickly lost interest.

I think my point is that most of the people who chant for ECW at shows did not watch ECW when it was around, which I think is on the hypocritical side.

Likely, yes, but that was 411 -> Wrestlezone -> PWInsider, which is a lot of degrees of separation from the original report.

Anyone here see the PWInsider report that can confirm that?

You're not supposed to punch in New Japan, it's "illegal". Punching is illegal, just like outside interference. Rules in wrestling exist to be broken. Punching is illegal everywhere.

I thought the same thing. We'd hear about this for the next twenty years, kinda like the Dr. Death stories that turned him babyface.

Because he is a heel ... to half the audience.

That's the perfect heel response. They want him to tear into them (even chanting for it on the RAW the night after WM 28) and he just won't do it.

Moves change but I don't think moves are part of standards because moves aren't what make a match good or bad. "Are they working a contemporary style?" is a yes or no question that can be asked of any match in any era. What's contemporary changes, sure. Anyway, I'm cornering myself into arguing something I'm hardly ideological about and I'm not even sure I'm right, so I'll stop.

I'm more likely to criticize something for looking dated for the time than I am just to call it dated by today's athletic standards. I might point it out if I'm watching a 1970s style match in 1994, but I probably wouldn't say that about a match wrestled the same way in 1983. I think saying standards don't change doesn't mean context plays no role at all.

I know that obviously, I just wanted to hear what explanations might come.

I don't really get hating the Attitude Adjustment and not minding the F5.

That's how I feel about spots on the Spanish announce table. WWE always goes there when they are trying to make a match "big", and it's something that I think should have been left behind back in the early 2000s. It's enough to make me like an otherwise good match a lot less.

Yep. Big Show.