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I watch a little UFC, but I don't follow the announcing closely when I do, so I don't know.

Finally watched most of "The Tommy Rich Story" a few nights ago. What year was that produced in? 1988-ish, I'm guessing, since Lawler was the AWA Champ? Pretty interesting stuff, surprised it seems to only have started circulating in the last little while considering how long ago it had to have been made.

i.e. Any time someone applied the Abdominal Stretch without interhooking their own leg around the leg of the guy he was applying it too.

...but do you know of any specific instances of Monsoon being put in his place with the argument I suggested (which is the point on my end, petty as it is)?

I always waited for someone (probably Jesse, maybe Bockwinkel in his brief run) commentating with Gorilla, upon him going on one of his "He'll never get him like that, he didn't hook the leg!!!" speils, to counter that statement with "Sometimes you make the cover just to gauge how badly hurt your opponent is. You can tell how much he has left in the tank by how forcefully he kicks out. You don't need to hook the leg if you're trying to measure how much your opponent has left." It would have been done in a vein akin to explaining how the dropkick doesn't hurt the thrower when he connects, as opposed to when he missed it. I don't remember it ever happening, though. Something like that...ANY sort of logic-based counter-argument, even once, might have shut down that bit, at least for the rest of that match.

I also guess "Exits" should read "Exists".

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1974-1970s-Vintage...=item27cb0ac3ea These two match films are "new" as far as I know. Both are matchups that there is no film or video for that I can recall coming across. These are the two cards the matches are from, courtesy of Clawmasters results archive: 7/10/74 Davenport, IA @ John O'Donnell Stadium AWA Tag Team Champions Nick Bockwinkel & Ray Stevens beat Billy Robinson & Geoff Portz Ivan Putski beat Baron Von Raschke Chris Taylor beat Larry Heiniemi Larry Hennig beat Bull Bullinski 12/26/74 Moline, IL @ Wharton Field House Nick Bockwinkel beat Larry Hennig Ivan Putski beat Baron Von Raschke Greg Gagne & Jim Brunzell beat Yugo Babich & Boris Breznikoff

It's his ring name according to the post his picture is in.

I look forward to reading your comments on that match.

Yep.

Quick question...when was the earliest known use of an earpiece by a referee in a wrestling match? The 90's? Earlier?

Did he appoint the bookers himself? If so, he would get credit for knowing who to put in to be successful (and any associated failings), right?

It was up on the front page of the Observer site the same day he posted it here, Meltzer refrenced it in 1 or 2 of the daily updates as well Unfortunately they made it "Member's Access Only" so you have to have a login to read it there. Glad it's up here for that reason.

Weird this hasn't happened yet on Canadian TV due to the hour delay.

Well illustrated and better than I was going to try and explain.

Dave regularly touted Curt as probably the best worker in the company when he was in the AWA, and that was in 1984. As such, his love for Hennig would appear to have longer roots than just his Mr. Perfect era.

Ok, got it. That makes more sense to me. I was at the (now) Roy Wilkins Auditorium in October 2000 for the ECW PPV where Jerry Lynn won the ECW title. Decent-sized venue for wrestling.

No kidding? I always thought it was closer to Ten K. Changes the perspectives on the attendance somewhat for me. It's too bad there isn't a percentage of capacity stat floating around, since that is so much more a measure of how a show draws than the raw numbers are, IMO.

From what I understand, Verne had been slowing down for some time and was almost in "Special Attraction" mode. with the idea that an appearance by the Champ would seem special and bump attendance somewhat.

I believe Minneapolis Auditorium held around 10,000 full. St. Paul Civic Center could hold between 18 and 20 grand (a number rarely reached in any era). A key thing here is you have a St. Paul card on April 12 and a Minneapolis card on April 26th. That's two cards in two weeks that drew a total of 9,000 people. Not bad. Verne was often running Minne and St. Paul like two separate entities even into 1982. The Civic Center wasn't always used, either--He would run the adjacent St. Paul Auditorium which held about 5-7,000, a number better suited for shows running almost bi-weekly at times.

Bruiser appeared on AWA cards in Chicago right through Super Clash I in 1985 (not all of them, but a lot of them), as did other WWA guys, usually in the lower half of the card. Bruiser put over Jerry Blackwell in the middle of 1980 and that was seen by the Chicago guys as a major indicator that Blackwell was going to be a big player in the AWA. That might have happened on the card where Verne regained the title from Bockwinkel in July of 1980, I can't remember for sure. Bruiser and Vachon teamed up in St. Paul to challenge the Sheiks for the tag title in 1983, early in their reign. Only the last few minutes are available on video, though.

I never saw Pedro during his AWA run in the later 70's but those who did have said he was pretty much just another body...didn't stand out as a must-see sort of wrestler.