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That was out of Notepad.

This is a C&P test. This is a C&P test. This is a C&P test. Seems fine.

One gets the feeling that Vince would like to put the entire package with one company, given the plan to line all the deals in the US up at once. The WWE isn't exactly the NFL or NBA where there are a slew of people wanting to get a taste of it, and are willing to take less than the full thing. With the WWE, Raw is the prize, and it seems like Vince is trying to leverage it, with the added ability to say, "Hey... SmackDown does 'okay' too." and toss in that they did some numbers with Divas. I don't think anyone is putting massive stock in Divas being able to sustain numbers over the life of the new contract, but it's a small bone that the WWE can point to claiming that they can develop content in addition to Raw and SD.

I see the button... but what is it, and how does it work?

Ah... I see that you're working on it. Yeah, what a pain.

Not sure if this was mentioned earlier in the thread, but the Sub Title/Header for posts seems to be gone. This is kind of important in the MD section where the Subtitle was the Date/Prom. To edit that into all of the posts would be a son of a gun, and not terribly easy if all that data lost. It's was really helpful for keeping track of stuff.

The number Dave is tossing around is $280M a *year* in the US? The WWE is crackers if they think they're getting that. John

FWIW, there isn't an issue on my laptop when undocked. I'll have to check again at the office monitor when docked again on Monday.

Was this while using the default skin or the Legacy skin? Do you have a screen shot you could provide me? I have no idea what you're talking about in terms of skins. I just clicked onto the site and made no changes from whatever it had been before. After posing, I changed my Avatar and nothing else.

Message board works. We're just a bunch of idiot fans who like talking about wrestling.

Freudian slip indicating your thoughts on how he was as a worker? Damn... that might be my equiv of Anabolic Warrior.

I'm almost certain the binaries pro wrestling newsgroup was around by then because I don't think I was on the pro wrestling newsgroups much after 1999, and don't think I was reading the other ones I read back then much after 1999 (r.s.soccer, the baseball stat one, the two JRRT groups). Most of the content that in them that I read migrated to webs just as we did. And I know I had taken a look at the binaries group before them. I had dial up in those days, so getting content off the group really wasn't worth it. Looking around, here's a SKeith FAQ TOC from mid-1999 that references the group: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated/bQW3Q7H07c0 And a 1998 post from Satry already with the tag line of creating the group: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated/29SJBzaPjTk * * * * * On the hotline part... what strikes me is that if a fan shot that and was online-savy enough to know about Hotline (which I don't even recall in the fog of time and probably never knew about)... that's a guy who likely would have participated in *some* online wrestling discussion board / group / site. The other thing that's odd is that he says it was "short". If you were taping it, even as morbid as it was, would you have stopped shooting? Just think about the type of person who sneaks in a camera to shot... and then SOMETHING REALLY STRANGE happens. Those folks tend to keep shooting. We have to assume that folks ran to aid Owen, both people at ringside and then rushing out of the back. I just checked out the footage from the PPV that's on DM, and it's a long time, including them cutting away to promo the mixed-tag before coming back with Owen eventually being taken out (hopeful crowd cheer as you often when someone injured is taken out and everyone hopes for the best). All in all, it's about a 9 minute segment. You really have to think that someone with a camera snuck into the building, which he'd been shooting a the time of the fall and "caught it", would also shoot at least *some* of those minutes when they were working on him. It's just odd. I think the poster believes that what he saw was it. But I'm with you... fake obsucred is much more likely. John

The "wrapping" (for lack of a better word) is a bit off. I have a bit of a scroll bar on the bottom, with the right right of the board going off screen. I don't have that problem with either DVDVR or CM, which both have IP Boards. In fact, just ALT+TABing between the two on my monitor has a thread window in each wrapping exactly the same within a window in the sense of: * font * thread/post inner frame * thread/post outter frame (the white space on each side there, which is a light blue here) * outter frame (blue in each while the outter white here) I'm FireFox 26 as the browser, Windows 7. Looks like DVDVR has 3.4.6 IP, while neither here not CM list theirs. John

Not a crackpot, but... You came through the Usenet era, Bix, right? Something like that would have been posted in one of the Usenet binary groups... in fact, I seem to recall that by the late 90s there was a pro wrestling Usenet binary group. If it was on the P2P equivs in 1999 (he said within days of Owen dying), it likely would have gotten up there to either the PW binary one or one of the other groups. We can joke about The Board being the wrestling equiv of 4chan/one-of-the-various-chans... but old timers like us know that the chans haven't got dick on the incredible, sordid, sleazy, sickening, and often illegal cesspool a (massive) corner of the Usenet was. Owen's death would have been close to the heyday of that wild wild west aspect of the Usenet, shortly before folks moved on: websites, then file sharing sites, and eventually to things like torrents. If it showed up there, some folks would have grabbed it (like he did) and circulated it. If it showed up again in 2002 (as he says on ogrish.com), same thing. His analogy to the nude pics is an interesting one, and I think we all know of stuff that was online at some point and since then all traces have vanished other than what we remember of them. But "Wrestler Dropping To His Death", which was covered by the mainstream media... that's not quite the same as Girl No One But Her Friends Know About. This isn't quite the type of thing that *everyone* who ever saw it would fail to save it... and fail to have it surface again some place. I tend to agree with you: "some kind of fake obscured by the low quality of the video" is more likely.

The Morton was from the Charlotte taping. The '88 match was from the same card as another match from the original 1988 GAB video tape. I think there are likely more *matches* from the Bash in the vault, and at the very least more complete matches (as opposed to the "WeGottttaaaaGooooo!" matches on TV). But I'm not sure: * additional cards were taped beyond the ones we know of / have had matches aired/released in the past * if we can count on the entire cards on "known taped shows" being fully taped I don't think JCP was ever like the WWF where if they were taping 3-4 matches on a card, they'd tape the entire thing. It's possible "dark" prelim and main event matches on those cards really were dark. My guess is that we'll get more matches over time... if the WWE gives a crap about airing them. But we probably won't have those house/Bash shows in full like the Maple Leafs Garden and Houston shows popped up on 24/7 as something really fresh. John

He's a backyarder who got to live the ultimate backyarder's dream: effectively running creative to book himself on top for a decade, and marry into the family to take over the promotion after he's done being a fulltimer. Trip in the end is the biggest, and most successful, mark in the history of the business. John

Trip has been cutting promos killing opponents for more than a decade. There isn't any evidence that Vince actually gives a shit about what Trip says in his promos. John