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1. Going to try to shoot to do a Complete and Accurate review a day over at Segunda Caida, in addition to our other stuff. 2. Figure out the schedules for the multiple lucha feds here in Denver and go to some shows 3. Work on a thing with some guys
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We have so little MSC footage from the 90s, that I would be more interested in seeing a full year from them, then filling in the gaps from one of the years in the 80s where we have a lot of the top matches. Take a look at the weird and cool shit happening in 1995 1/23 PG-13 beat Tommy Rich & Doug Gilbert in a "hospital elimination" match. Bill Dundee beat Ricky Morton USWA Unified World Champ Sid Vicious beat Brian Christopher in three falls. 1/30 PG-13 beat Tommy Rich & Doug Gilbert in a "street fight" match. Jerry Lawler beat Brian Christopher and Bill Dundee (60:00) in a "triangle marathon" match. 2/6 Jerry Lawler pinned Sid Vicious (15:48) in a "no DQ" match to win the USWA Unified World Title. 3/6 Bill Dundee beat Jerry Lawler and Brian Christopher in a "double elimination" match. Christopher pinned Lawler. Lawler pinned Dundee. Dundee pinned Christopher. Christopher beat Lawler via DQ. Dundee pinned Christopher. Tommy Rich & Gorgeous George III beat PG-13 in a "hair vs. hair" match when Rich pinned Wolfie. 3/13 Miss Texas beat Sweet Georgia Brown in an "I quit" match. Bill Dundee beat Brian Christopher in a "bullrope" match. PG-13 beat Tommy Rich & Doug Gilbert in a "steel cage loser leaves town vs. title" match to win the USWA Tag Title. 4/24 Brian Christopher & Bill Dundee beat Tommy Rich & Bob Backlund when Christopher pinned Rich (24:37). 5/29 USWA Unified World Champ Jerry Lawler beat Tommy Rich via DQ. Jerry Lawler, Bill Dundee, Brian Christopher, & PG-13 beat Doug Gilbert, Brian Lee, Tommy Rich, Jim Harris, & Max Muscle in a "coward waves the flag" match. 6/19 NWA Tag Champs The Rock-n-Roll Express beat PG-13 when Morton pinned Wolfie. Doug Gilbert & Brian Lee beat Jerry Lawler & Bill Dundee in a "loser gets tarred & feathered" match when Dundee was pinned. 7/17 USWA Unified World Champ Jerry Lawler beat Buddy Landel via DQ. The Rock-n-Roll Express beat PG-13 in a "Texas death" match. 7/31 PG-13, Tommy Rich, & Doug Gilbert beat Tracy Smothers, Robert Gibson, Buddy Landel, & Terry Gordy in a "street fight" match. 8/7 the Heavenly Bodies (Pritchard & Del Rey) beat PG-13 to win the USWA Tag Title. USWA Unified World Champ Jerry Lawler beat Buddy Landel. Jerry Lawler, Bill Dundee, PG-13, Tommy Rich, Doug Gilbert, & Billy Jack Haynes beat Tracy Smothers, Robert Gibson, Gorgeous George III, Buddy Landel, Pat Tanaka, & The Heavenly Bodies (Pritchard & Del Rey) in a "rage in a cage" match.
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1985 might be the year for Toreo Look at this card UWA (SUN) 01/27/1985 Toreo de Cuatro Caminos, Naucalpan, Estado de México [DJ Spectro, luchablog photolog (2013-09-16 03.19.14), Super Luchas 514] ***10th Anniversary*** 1) Blue Panther © b Cobarde II [UWA WELTER] Blue Panther is champion, took falls 2/3 to keep the title 2) Satánico © b Super Astro [UWA MIDDLE] Satanico was champion and kept it by taking falls 1/3. 3) Mano Negra DCOR Fishman © [UWA LH] Fishman is champion, kept the title 4) Villano III b el Signo [WWF LH] Villano is champion, kept the title falls 1/3. 5) Canek & Dos Caras DQ Babe Face & Stan Hansen straight falls. Or these matches 2/1 2) El Hijo Del Santo, Solar I, Super Astro, Ultraman vs Black Terry, Blue Panther, El Brazo, José Luis Feliciano 2/5 5) el Signo, Negro Navarro, Texano vs Villano I, Villano III, Villano IV [super libre] 5/26 El Faraón, Lobo Rubio, Perro Aguayo vs Brazo de Oro, Brazo de Plata, El Brazo [super libre] 300000 pesos on the line 7/21 El Hijo Del Santo & Villano III b Aristóteles & Blue Panther Sets up Santo versus Aristoteles in a mask match. Villano I, Villano IV, Villano V b Brazo de Oro, Brazo de Plata, El Brazo © [UWA TRIOS] title change! Bad rainstorm during the match. Best match. 10/13 Villano I, Villano IV, Villano V © DRAW el Signo, Negro Navarro, Texano [UWA TRIOS] medics stopped the match due to blood. 11/20 MS-1, Pirata Morgan, Satánico © b Brazo de Oro, Brazo de Plata, El Brazo [MEX TRIOS]
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Satanico v. Atlantis in a hour long draw!!! Holy Fuck
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According to luchadb they had three hair matches in 1984
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If that's the case... 1980 Superdome for Hayes vs JYD in the cage and Hogan vs Andre. Problem with that is you are only getting two shows. 8/80 Card looks awesome Terry Latham beat Tommy Wright (9:15). Terry Orndorff & Mike Miller beat Johnny Mantell & Ron Cheatham (12:00). King Cobra beat Frank Dusek (10:15). The Assassin beat Steven Little Bear (12:00). Ray Candy beat Killer Khan (9:47). The Grappler beat Wahoo McDaniel (11:00) via DQ. Paul Orndorff beat Ken Mantell (14:00). Andre the Giant DCO Hulk Hogan (13:00). Mid-South North American Champ Ted DiBiase beat Mr. Wrestling II (14:00). Dusty Rhodes & Buck Robley beat Buddy Roberts & Terry Gordy (5:00) in a "double bullrope" match. Junkyard Dog beat Michael Hayes (11:20) in a "steel cage dog collar" match Grappler v. Wahoo should be good, and DiBiase v. II would be great too 10/80 show isn't as good Cocoa Samoa beat Mike Miller (10:00). Jimmy Garvin beat Terry Latham (6:00). Ray Candy & Wahoo McDaniel beat The Turk & The Mexican Angel (7:07). Mid-South Louisiana Champ Jake Roberts beat Paul Ellering (13:00). Ted DiBiase beat The Super Destroyer (15:00) via DQ. Dusty Rhodes beat Ivan Koloff (10:46). Junkyard Dog & Bill Watts beat Ernie Ladd & Leroy Brown (15:00). Mid-South North American Champ The Grappler beat Karl Kox (11:00). Ernie Ladd beat Paul Orndorff in a "lights out" match Ernie Ladd v. Paul Orndorff could be good, and I am sure Grappler v. KKK was fun, but this was pretty weak for a Mid-South super show Can't win for losing on this... but the August card is the one I would go back and see if I could be at any shows that I've never seen footage of. There's a lot going on here and definitely historic on multiple levels. I can see the argument, kind of a quality over quantity thing. That JYD v Hayes match was amazing I am sure
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Was thinking 84 Arena Mexico just because Satanico could have had the greatest year ever based on the stuff we have seen. No idea what white whale matches are out there from this year. There are some big ones 2/26/84 Tony Salazar vs Colosso Colosetti Super Libre 3/2/84 Tony Salazar v Herodes Hair 3/9/84 Satánico © v Lizmark NWA Middleweight title 4/1/84 Pirata Morgan vs Halcón Ortiz, Popitekus [hair] 4/8/84 Halcón Ortiz v Pirata Morgan [hair] 6/24/84 Satanico v. Mogur NWA Middleweight title 7/13/84 Satanico v. Samurai Shiro Hair (not the one we have on tape) 7/27/84 Lizmark v. Sangre Chicana Super Libre 8/5/84 Sangre Chicana v. Tony Salazar Hair 9/16/84 Popetikus v. Assesino Negro hair (A fat boy battle for the ages) 10/26/84 El Dandy v. Javier Cruz hair (This might be the match the EMLL announcers always bring up whenever anyone bleeds a ton) 12/7/84 Cien Caras & Villano III DQ El Faraón & Perro Aguayo Sr. Rudos took V3's mask for the DQ. Crazy brawl where everyone ended up suspended for 3 months, and Aguayo and Faraon fought each other after the match.
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If that's the case... 1980 Superdome for Hayes vs JYD in the cage and Hogan vs Andre. Problem with that is you are only getting two shows. 8/80 Card looks awesome Terry Latham beat Tommy Wright (9:15). Terry Orndorff & Mike Miller beat Johnny Mantell & Ron Cheatham (12:00). King Cobra beat Frank Dusek (10:15). The Assassin beat Steven Little Bear (12:00). Ray Candy beat Killer Khan (9:47). The Grappler beat Wahoo McDaniel (11:00) via DQ. Paul Orndorff beat Ken Mantell (14:00). Andre the Giant DCO Hulk Hogan (13:00). Mid-South North American Champ Ted DiBiase beat Mr. Wrestling II (14:00). Dusty Rhodes & Buck Robley beat Buddy Roberts & Terry Gordy (5:00) in a "double bullrope" match. Junkyard Dog beat Michael Hayes (11:20) in a "steel cage dog collar" match Grappler v. Wahoo should be good, and DiBiase v. II would be great too 10/80 show isn't as good Cocoa Samoa beat Mike Miller (10:00). Jimmy Garvin beat Terry Latham (6:00). Ray Candy & Wahoo McDaniel beat The Turk & The Mexican Angel (7:07). Mid-South Louisiana Champ Jake Roberts beat Paul Ellering (13:00). Ted DiBiase beat The Super Destroyer (15:00) via DQ. Dusty Rhodes beat Ivan Koloff (10:46). Junkyard Dog & Bill Watts beat Ernie Ladd & Leroy Brown (15:00). Mid-South North American Champ The Grappler beat Karl Kox (11:00). Ernie Ladd beat Paul Orndorff in a "lights out" match Ernie Ladd v. Paul Orndorff could be good, and I am sure Grappler v. KKK was fun, but this was pretty weak for a Mid-South super show
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The point isnt some desert island thing, it would be what would be the best discovery. Is there stuff from 1989 msg or 1993 koraken which isnt out there?
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What shows couldn't you just buy from Jeff Lynch?
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I have some contenders, but look at what you would get for the Omni in 1989 1/1 Flair v. Sting 2/12 Flair v. Sting 3/12 Flair v. Steamboat 4/9 SST v. MX Flair/Michael Hayes v. Luger/Steamboat 5/7 WWF Card with Rude v. Warrior 7/2 Gordy v. Murdoch Muta v. Gilbert in a Dragon Shai match Steiners v. Sullivan/Rotunda Hayes/Garvin v. MX SST v. Road Warriors 7/16 WWF Card Rockers v. Rougeuas Rude v. Warrior 8/6 Gilbert/Scott Steiner v. Muta/Sullivan in Dragon Shai match Luger v. Rick Steiner Funk v. Flair Wargames Dr. Death/Road Warriors/MX v. SST/Gordy/Hayes/Garvin (WHAT THE FUCK!!) 9/3 Muta v. Sting Skyscrapers v. Steiners Luger v. Tommy Rich Flair v. Funk Texas Death Road Warriors v. SST Steel Cage 10/8 Pillman v. Gilbert Skyscrapers v. Road Warriors Lugar v. Dr. Death Steiners v. Hayes/Garvin Flair v. Funk I Quit 11/23 Flair v. Muta Just for the two additional Flair v. Funk matches and that Wargames man alive
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If a wrestling Genie showed up and offered you a magic google drive full of all the shows from one Arena in one Year which would you pick?
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Did you watch the Rotweilers vs. WALTER and Thatcher from WXW? Think you would enjoy. Those shows are in my to watch pile for sure
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Low-KI is a under the radar candidate, he had the great Sami Callihan match in AAW and a series of absolute bangers in Impact wrestling. Not a ton of volume, but his per match average is super high
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I have absolutely loved two Bucks matches Hardy Boys v. Young Bucks NEW 8/2/16 Super Dragon/Kevin Steen v. Young Bucks 12/10/11 I would argue that those two matches are as good as any Midnight Express match. Most of the time they aren't my thing, but their highs can be pretty high
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How has Trevor Lee's non CWF stuff been, I liked him in the 3-way with Low-Ki, although Ki was the standout. I wasn't in love with some of his early workratey CWF defenses (Daniels, Day, Elgin), but he has been on a huge roll during the second half of the year, working very different title matches against a cool variety of wrestlers, loved the ECW brawl with Nick Richards, his little guy v. big guy match against Mecha Mercenary, the Aric Andrews match built around body part selling, his almost Tenryuish performances against Sharpe and in the Battle Royal. Seems like a guy who is doing a wide variety of things very well.
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[1993-08-03-NJPW-G1 Climax] Yoshiaki Fujiwara vs Akitoshi Saito
Phil Schneider replied to GOTNW's topic in August 1993
Holy hell was this awesome. Fujiwara attacks Saito at the bell and starts choking him with his black belt and it was on. Fujiwara versus a kicker is always the best, and Saito wasn't afraid to throw huge kicks especially to Fujiwara's belly. Fujiwara is the greatest body shot seller in wrestling history, he always sells them like he is about to throw up, but is keeping it down to fight through a Crossfit workout. Saito gets Fujiwara down and opens him up with knuckle punches to the head. Then a pissed off Fujiwara fires back with big headbutts as blood is running down his face. Finish was great Fujiwara crumple to the ground after a couple of nasty body kicks and Saito comes into finish him off, Fujiwara though grabs the next body kick and turns it into a nasty ankle lock for the tap. He then does this awesome strut around the ring with a shit eating grin on his face. He jaws a bit with Aoyagi who was seconding Saito and then offers his hand. Saito throws a kick at him, and Fujiwara has this great "look at the tough guy" smirk and struts out of the ring. I saw this on Ditch's site and got excited, but it totally exceeded my pretty high expectations.- 1 reply
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We went ahead and made this our MOTY over at Segunda Caida This was really tremendous, best Brock match since the Wrestlemania match with Reigns, and it is great to see that he can still bring it on big occasions. I loved the opening thrust kick right to Styles chest great way to say hello, and the knees he was throwing looked like they were going to puncture lungs. Styles is still an electric bumper even at 40 years old he really has kept almost all of his athleticism. Some of those suplex bumps looked terrifying, a great combo of force and acrobatic bumps, they weren't the Shawn Michaels/Ziggler look at me bumps, he flew the way a guy should fly when being thrown by a Gorilla. After taking this huge beating Styles comeback was credible and great, his flying moves really land with force, he never felt like he was doing springboards to look cool, they always felt like attacking from afar was his only approach. Airplanes don't try to punch it out with King Kong they dive bomb. The calf slicer spot was incredible, Styles had been killing the leg all match, and Brock sold the calf slicer like all of the tendons in his knee were shredding, Brock countering it by trying to show Styles the inside of the ring was incredible stuff, right up their with Ki breaking Callihan's jaw for violence of the year. I also like how Brock has brought back the F5 as a one move killshot, he isn't throwing ten of the them a match anymore, it is back being a one hitter quitter. Incredible match, loved every second of it. Big match inspired Brock is still the absolute best.
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I have been doing a Fujiwara Advent Calendar over at Segunda Caida so I can make some changes to this list Add 1982 Yoshiaki Fujiwara/Kengo Kimura/Osamu Kido v. Animal Hamiguchi/Isamu Teranishi/Ryuma Go NJ Added 2000 Yoshiaki Fujiwara/Dan Kroffat v. Mitsu Nagai/Masahito Kakihara AJPW 12/6/00- GREAT Switched 2013 Yoshiaki Fujiwara v. Masaaki Mochizuki Tokyo Gurentai 12/14/13
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This is about as great a six minute match as you are going to get. This was worked on UWF rules and is a classic Fujiwara story as the sneaky veteran is taking on the powerhouse kicker. Mochizuki unloads some really big shots, organ shifting body kicks, dental work knees. Meanwhile Fujiwara was trying to survive the onslaught and look for openings. I loved how when he maneuvered Mochizuki in the corner, he mixed in some liver shots with his body shots, he knew he wasn't going to stop this beast with power, but a perfectly placed kidney shot might. Finish was an all timer, Mochizuki goes up for his rope climb knee strike and Fujiwara shifts slightly and catches his knee in almost a calf slicer and just cranks it until Mochizuki taps. After reviewing over a hundred Fujiwara matches, shocked he can still find ways to surprise me.
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