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[1991-03-24-WWF-Wrestling Challenge] Interview: Hulk Hogan
Childs replied to Loss's topic in March 1991
I have found the Hogan/Slaughter build really unappealing and not even for the obvious reasons of Vince's bad taste. Hogan was just insufferable, and I can't imagine having cheered for him based on these promos. The memorial-wall-in-the-sky shit was just icky and disrespectful to anyone who really lost a family member to war. The God-is-a-Hulkamaniac stuff sucked as well, though as someone who has covered Ray Lewis, I'm more used to that line of thinking.- 7 replies
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[1991-03-23-AJPW-Championship Carnival] Jumbo Tsuruta vs Cactus Jack
Childs replied to Loss's topic in March 1991
I can see both sides of this issue. Jumbo wasn't lazy and gave a reasonable performance as the ace against a guy who wasn't familiar or particularly over to the fanbase. But he did treat Foley as a person of little consequence, and I see how that might've stung a little given Mick's crazy effort to put on a show. It's not a match that diminishes Jumbo at all in my eyes, but I understand why it might've diminished him in Foley's eyes.- 18 replies
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- Championship Carnival
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The cool thing about these six-mans is that they often managed to shift the focus to a different match-up without losing the overall intensity. As Loss mentioned, this one put the spotlight on Misawa vs. Taue, given that Kawada was absent. This is probably the least of the six-mans that have appeared on yearbooks since Misawa vs. Jumbo got going, but that's no real criticism.
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I've read jdw's description of how this became a puro gateway drug for a lot of 90s fans, but as Ditch indicated, that has always seemed like a "had to be there" thing. It wasn't the match of the night, week, month or year. It wasn't the best Steiners match from the time period. It wasn't the best all-action NJ tag match of the period. It wasn't the best Hase or Sasaki performance from the period. Just one of those alchemy things, I guess. It was a fine way to pass 15 minutes, but it wouldn't shock me if I never feel a reason to watch it again.
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[1991-03-21-NJPW-Starrcade in Tokyo] Ric Flair vs Tatsumi Fujinami
Childs replied to Loss's topic in March 1991
I fall between you guys on this one. There were definitely some awkward moments where they seemed unsure which direction to take the match. But they also delivered some really intense exchanges that redeemed it to some degree. We've talked the idea of the "Flair match" to death on this board. That said, this felt like a stereotypical Flair match -- always something happening, stiff and intense at the right moments, signature spots checked off, more about action and forward propulsion than any real theme. I agree that they could have had a damn good match in the 1980s. -
What's wrong with the scared animal thing? Many animals are most dangerous when they're scared and cornered. I'm not commenting on the social acceptability of casting a human in that role. I'm just saying it seems logical from a performance standpoint.
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Larry Matysik's 50 Greatest Professional Wrestlers
Childs replied to Al's topic in Megathread archive
It's interesting that the numbers were so bad, because it's not like the product was uniformly shitty. The yearbooks have certainly reiterated that WCW ran plenty of good TV matches and strong PPVs from 1990-94. I guess it shows how unimportant that is when the really big picture stuff isn't clicking. -
Gold! Khawk, can you just post in every thread so I can see the cats and dogs more often.
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[1991-03-08-USWA Texas] Eric Embry & Steve Austin vs Bill Dundee & Gary Young
Childs replied to Loss's topic in March 1991
This featured some of the best execution of a rivals-turned-partners team that I've seen. Just more good stuff from USWA, with all of their big feuds now at a point where I'm eager to see more.- 8 replies
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[1991-03-03-WWF-Wrestling Challenge] Interview: Hulk Hogan
Childs replied to Loss's topic in March 1991
There's definitely some black comedy in the idea of Hogan as the ultimate American. He in no way represented the phony ideals he was touting, yet he absolutely represented a lot of what a cynic would describe as "Real American." These promos have a place in the Hogan-was-an-asshole thread we had going a while back. -
The first two falls of this felt like the touring version of Santo vs. Casas -- graceful, athletic but lacking in passion. Business picked up a bit in the third fall with some nifty battles over submissions. I thought Santito went out a bit quickly to the sharpshooter. Overall, easy to watch but unmemorable.
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This was a hell of a match and another notch in Jarrett's case as one of the best wrestlers in the U.S. Pritchard was terrific as well. Even the simplest stuff seemed tightly worked, and they did a great job with the finishing stretch. Strictly in terms of matches, 1991 USWA has outpaced 1990 USWA.
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I can't say enough about the virtue of simplicity in these early Onita matches. Here, he came out on fire, took a huge beating from Goto in return and, after a few nasty cutoffs, staged a spirited, to-the-point rally. These weren't really death matches, just brutal, straight-up battles that played to Onita's penchants for selling, eating punishment and connecting to the crowd. And I still think Goto was his best opponent. They had great timing together, and Goto came off as a tough motherfucker. As great as '91 has been so far, this is near the top of my MOTY list.
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- February 26
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I'll second the 8/30/95 Kansai match.
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[1991-02-24-WCW-Wrestle War '91] Lex Luger vs Dan Spivey
Childs replied to Loss's topic in February 1991
I have a good 12-disc Luger comp from a guy who used to trade as BNewt. Starts with some Florida stuff and runs through the Superbrawl match with Sting in '92.- 13 replies
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Things I love about this match: 1) Everything Pillman. 2) Everything Windham. 3) Pillman vs. Windham. 4) The fact it didn't just end 30 seconds after the last guy entered. 5) Lots of blood. 6) Heels winning in a format that generally favored the babyfaces. Things that bug me about this match: 1) The complete lack of comment on the reasons for Larry Z replacing Anderson or the impact of that switch. 2) Sid's audible spot calling. 3) The fact El Gigante was allowed to stop a submit-or-surrender match he wasn't in. It would have made great drama for one of Pillman's teammates to surrender reluctantly because he was just that fucked up. But this finish really shat on the War Games concept. Overall, this featured some of the best moments of any War Games, but the flaws were substantial enough to keep me from calling it a truly great match.
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[1991-02-24-WCW-Wrestle War '91] Lex Luger vs Dan Spivey
Childs replied to Loss's topic in February 1991
This is probably the second best Spivey singles match I've seen behind his match with Kawada. I know we've all said it plenty, but Luger was damn good from 1989 until right about this point. He worked hard, made his opponents look great with his bumping and selling, showed a lot of fire on his comebacks, stayed over regardless of the booking. He's clearly a guy whose rep in the business seems way out of line with what the tapes show.- 13 replies
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[1991-02-24-WCW-Wrestle War '91] Big Van Vader vs Stan Hansen
Childs replied to Loss's topic in February 1991
This was good while it lasted, but I'm not sure why they had to cut them off so quickly. The crowd seemed willing to get behind Vader based on their reaction to his flying clothesline after the bell. The ref's performance really irritated me here. I mean, why the fuck did he need to get between them when they were slugging it out on their knees? The crowd really hated that as a set-up for the double DQ, and I can't see how it did anyone any good.- 12 replies
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Solid match, as others have said. I like Tommy Rich, a lot, but he has yet to establish any kind of identity in his tags with Morton. I don't know if it's just the feeling that he's holding down Gibson's spot or what. But his superiority to Gibson (pretty undeniable overall) has not shown up in these matches.
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Hash vs. Tenryu 6/17/93
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[1991-01-19-AJPW-New Year Giant Series] Jumbo Tsuruta vs Stan Hansen
Childs replied to Loss's topic in January 1991
This was boring, inexcusably so for guys this good. But it continued a pattern from 1990 of fairly lackluster Triple Crown matches. The crowd's reaction confirmed it. They were more excited to see the young natives vs. veteran natives than they were to see the more traditional Jumbo vs. top American.- 15 replies
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[1991-01-15-AJPW-New Year Giant Series] Toshiaki Kawada vs Akira Taue
Childs replied to Loss's topic in January 1991
This is a desert island match for me -- loved it the first time I saw it and have only grown to love it more. Kawada was great, but Taue was the revelation with his headbutts, kicks to the spine, etc. You'd have thought he was the Tenryu protege. All-Japan would have been better off keeping short, hot brawls in the mix for the balance of the decade. As it stands, I'd probably rank this in the promotion's top 20 for the '90s because it stands out as so unique.- 28 replies
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I always love it when Santito bleeds through his iconic mask. Such a great visual. I've seen this match several times, and it is outstanding. Santito hit all of his normal highspots but did an excellent job integrating them into his rally from Brazo de Oro's beating. Oro's struggles to avoid the camel clutch also stood out. I don't think this was quite on the level of the Dandy-Satanico matches. Those guys were just better at conveying viciousness in their strikes and holds. But that's hardly a complaint. This is a top-10 career match for Santito.
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- January 13
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Put me in the corner of really enjoying the PPV. Miz-Cesaro was excellent until the finish. The chamber was well laid-out with the awesome beast run by Henry and a finishing run that kept me engaged even though I cared little about any of the three guys. The six-man was a solid WWE MOTYC. And the main event was probably about as good a match as we're going to get from those two, given current Rock's limitations. I get all the questions about the booking for Mania but in terms of delivering on the big matches, this was a very good show.
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Inoki vs. Fujiwara 2/6/86