Tim Evans

I went to my first ROH show tonight in Orlando. I was very impressed actually. Although the building was shitty, very much a fire hazzard and in a horrible part of town. I saw Gabe walking all around the crowd before the show started. He was even using a camera during a angle with the YRR and Bushwacker Luke. I also met that Cary silkin guy or whatever his name is that heads ROH. He was a cool guy and shaked everyone's hand after the show. As for the "scaling back" part, I don't think any chairs were used but I've never seen so many chops as I saw tonight. Every single match had one guy doing numerous chops. Kobashi would be proud. And I know Nigel isn't liked around these parts but I must say, The guy is a awesome heel live.

He's always like that. Brando's dead so he doesn't care anymore. Well since I know no one watches TNA, They just showed Robby Mccalister(Highlanders) on the live Impact in the crowd with a big WWE Wrestler caption. Someone's getting fired.

So anyone watch the Larry King WWE special tonight? I thought it did a good job plugging Floyd/Show which was the main reason everyone was on. I got to say, Big show is real likeable and I wonder if they are going to one of those WWE films movies with him?

I figured since Loss and Khawk are so good at the WON recaps, I would do one with the Torch. In 1999 my mother got me a subscription to the Torch. I think I got it through one of the Apter mag which I use to buy all the time. I know Keller is loved around here. If this isn't allowed you can delete it. I'm not going word for word, just paraphrasing 3/25/00: Headline story: - Wade calls Barry Blaustein and Beyond the Mat "a mark and The Movie lacks central Theme." but overall likes the documentary. He felt it was too contrived and didn't have a critical eye for his "subjects" often enough. He brings up the Koko B Ware part and the Roland Alexander part but didn't bash Terry Funk like he did those two. He also thought they didn't focus a lot on the Droz injury and didn't even mention the Owen death once according to Wade's review. Co Headline: - Mick Foley is going to return at Wrestlemania after "retiring" at No way out losing to HHH in Hell in a Cell. Wade doesn't seem to know what to think but predicts that WWF will get a higher buyrate now that Foley is there. WWF Newswire: - The WWF is going to leave USA and move to TNN thanks to Chris-Craft selling it's 50% of UPN to Viacom. Rumor has it that USA might be intrested in ECW now that WWF is leaving. - Despite putting the planned Wrestlemania Main event(Show vs HHH vs Rock) on Raw, the rating only dropped 0.1 from last week. The final rating was a 6.2 with a 7.3 overrun rating. - Beyond the Mat had a overall figure of $950,000 from 298 runs over the weekend. A box office source said it was "decent" and the Screen Average was $3,188. - The March 18th SNL with the Rock was the highest rated SNL of the season. It got a 8.2 Rating with about 20 million viewers as the Estimate. WWF Notebook: - Out of everyone in MCW(Memphis Championship Wrestling), It looks like K Krush(Ron Killings) was going to be the most likely to be called up. They like his Musical background and look. WWF wasn't going to call up anyone from MCW before 6 months to prove itself but that might change. Reckless Youth might be called up for the Light Heavyweight Division.(My note:Whatever happened with that anyways?) Jerry Lawler isn't very intrested in MCW except for his segments with the Kat. Tom Pritchard attends every taping as an agent. He doesn't have any control but gives advice to the leaders. - HHH and Chyna have ended there Off screen romance. The breakup has been in the works for months and lead to the breakup on screen. - HHH is getting a lot of praise as a Heel because he's not acting like the "cool heel" throwing out one liners for babyface pops. - For Last week's Ross Report on WWF.com, Jim Ross said that he like Paul E's fire in ECW and on WCW he said "What does it tell you when Sunday Night Heat is beating Nitro in the ratings?" - Terri Runnels told Cody Monk of the Dallas Morning News that she wanted to do the Bump off the top rope on Raw. She said she trusted Buh Buh and was stiff the next day but knows he was too. - Raw was the top rated show in the UK with 390,000 Viewrs compared to Thunder's 160,000 and Nitro's 140,000. On the Road: -March 18th in Cedar Falls Iowa drew 10,780 paid making about $313,870($78632 in Merch.) The card was headlined by Kane beating X Pac. Also on the card was Edge beat Prince Albert, Crash beat Christian, Dudleys beat the Hardy's, Rikishi beat Bossman, Jacqueline beat Lita, Too Cool beat Headbangers, Angle beat Benoit and Jericho when Angle pinned Jericho after a belt shot. -March 19th in Moline Ill had the same card with Tazz beating Gangrel being the new match. They drew 9,497 paid for $260,318(68,771 Merch) WCW Newswire: -Brad Siegel wants to make changes to the WCW Front Office. Wade questions who he would replace them with? Jerry Jarrett interviewed for a position underneath Bill Busch. Rumor has it that Siegel was going to name him as WCW VP and reassign Busch. Jarrett shot down that rumor. Bischoff was rumored for a meeting but Bill Goldberg stopped that. -Bill Goldberg is unhappy with WCW's Creative direction but likes Bill Busch. He doesn't want to work under Bischoff and hates that his return has been pushed back to May. He was scheduled to come back for the April PPV. -Bill Busch almost resigned as WCW VP but Goldberg's visit on Tuesday put a new spark under him. Changes were rumored after the estimate for Uncesnored were under 100,000 buys. Busch might stick around for a couple months. -There is a power stuggle between Hulk HOgan and Bill Goldberg. Head booker Kevin Sullivan is Siding with Hulk Hogan. A lot of people think WCW won't survive unless Hogan is out. WCW Notebook: - Main matches for Spring Stampede are Sid vs Hogan for the WCW title and Flair/Luger vs Sting/Vampiro. - Ernest Miller is upset at Busch that he didn't give him the raise Bischoff promised him. Busch said he won't give anyone a raise. Miller brought this up because Perry Saturn got a raise after Busch was hired. - Stevie Ray had his contract cut 2/3 several months ago. - Bret Hart is saying his Career is over thanks to the concussion he got in a match with Bill Goldberg - Bill Busch was not at the PPV because he was dealing with Goldberg. JJ Dillion was trying to keep things calm while Gary Juster was going crazy backstage. - WCW wanted to Run Goldberg vs Steiner but Busch doesn't trust Steiner after steiner undermined his authority. Busch wanted to suspend Steiner but Siegel override him. - Scott Hall is supposed to return any week now ECW Notebook: - ECW's 900 number updated the fans on the condition of New Jack after his fall. ECW was debating about running a Corino/Jack match that was taped before the PPV to air after the PPV. - Lance Storm is not very popular among the wrestlers according to a source. They say he's a kiss up and a know it all. Friends say it's his dry personality. - TNN's Friday night lineup has dropped 35% in the ratings and ECW has dropped 20% this past week. That is blamed on the St. Patrick's day weekend. - Simon Diamond pulled some muscles in his back. It's blamed on a series of bumps over the past couple weeks. New Jack got Surgery and is out for four weeks. - Tommy Dreamer was backstage at raw because he was taping a episode of Early Edition. ECW on the road: - March 17th in Worcester Mass 1,600 paid: - The Prodigy Tom Marquez beat Chilly Willy, Little Guido beat Kid Kash, Raven beat Mikey Whipwreck. CW Anders and Beautiful Billie Whiles beat Doring/Roadkill, Balls Mahoney beat Vic Grimes, Credible/Storm beat Nova/Chetti to retain the tag titles, Mike Awesome beat Angel, Tajiri beat Tommy Dreamer, Super Crazy beat Rhino. March 18th Salem N.H 2350 paid sellout - Chetti/Nova beat Whipwreck Prodigy, Guido beat Kash, Doring/Roadkill/Dusty beat Anderson/Willes/Watts, Crazy beat Tajiri for the Tv title, Rhino beat Balls, Dreamer beat Grimes, Impact Players beat Raven/Awesome for the tag titles. ECW on TNN from Asbury Park NJ - Impact Players beat Chettie/Nova - Sandman beat Angel - Corino beat New Jack in 6:00 - Awesome beat Tanaka in 2:00

Why didn't they fire Jeff hardy then? Didn't he refuse?

How do we know that Vince didn't offer to send Ashley to rehab and she refused? I mean they can't force someone to go to rehab. But I agree she does look scary. Not as scary as Michelle Mccool looks. Michelle looks like one kick to the stomach could kill her.

It's not that the Flair/Taylor matches are horrible, just that they are basically the same. And I'm just wondering why there are 3 of them on the set? I'm going to have to watch them again when I get done with the whole set to see if there is a difference between the 3. And I can't wait for the Taylor/Adams matches. I've seen one of them(The heel turn) and it was outstanding.

Is Solie going in this year?

I've been watching the Reed/Murdoch feud and just watched Flair/Dibiase. Both matches are high on my list as you can see. Dick Murdoch has put some fresh air in this set as I was wondering if it was going to get any better after the rough 1984- early 1985 section. I can't wait to see babyface Ted Dibiase and more of the Freebirds. And Sawyer/Duggan almost tops the Rich/Sawyer feud in being so hate filled.

I'm just about done with Disc 6, Here's my list so far. 1.Ted Dibiase vs. Jim Duggan (No Dq, cage match in tuxedos, loser leaves town, coal miners glove on a poll) (3/22/85) 2.Ted Dibiase vs. Ric Flair (11/6/85) 3.Ted Dibiase/Matt borne vs JYD/Mr. Olympia loser leaves town 10/27/82 4.Hacksaw Duggan vs. Buzz Sawyer (11/11/85) 5.Mr. Olympia vs Chavo Guerrero 6/24/83 6.Mr.Wrestling 2/Magnum TA vs Butch Reed and Jim Neidhart 12/25/83 7.Mr. Olympia vs Bob Roop 7/15/82 8.Hacksaw Duggan vs Ted Dibiase Texas Streetfight 7/29/83 9.Stagger Lee/Bill Watts vs Midnight Express 4/22/84 10.RNR/Duggan vs Midnights/Ladd Tulsa 7/2/84 11.Dick Murdoch vs. Butch Reed (9/22/85) 12.Midnights vs RNR Express 5/23/84 13.Magnum TA vs Ted Dibiase No DQ Tulsa 5/27/84 14.RNR/Duggan vs Midnights/Ladd 6/8/84 15.Ted Dibiase vs Hacksaw Duggan 3/8/85 16.Duggan/Rhodes vs Hernandez/Reed 8/19/84 17.Magnum TA vs Ted Dibiase No DQ OKC 5/27/84 18.Los Guerreros vs RNR Express 2/13/85 19.Los GUerreros vs Fantastics 10/12/84 20.Dick Murdoch vs. Dr. Death Steve Williams (9/20/85) 21.Los Guerreros/Buddy Landell vs Lothario/Dundee/Brown Elimination match 11/16/84 22.Ric Flair vs. Wahoo McDaniel (7/12/85) 23.The Fantastics vs. Bill Dundee & Dutch Mantell (9/22/85) 24.RNR Express vs Midnights 1/21/85 25.Rock N Roll Express vs. Ted DiBiase & Dr. Death Steve Williams (5/3/85) 26.Rock n Roll Express vs. Dirty White Boys (5/11/85) 27.Jim Duggan, Dick Murdoch & Bill Watts vs. Kamala, Kareem Muhammad & Skandor Akbar (7/28/85) 28.Ted DiBiase vs. Bob Sweetan (10/11/85) 29.Ted DiBiase & Steve Williams vs. The Barbarian & Jake The Snake Roberts (7/14/85) 30.Ted DiBiase vs. Terry Taylor (7/3/85) 31.Ted Dibiase vs. Jake Roberts (7/22/85) 32.Hacksaw Butch Reed vs. Ted DiBiase (7/25/85) 33.Ric Flair vs. Butch Reed (8/10/85) 34.Dick Murdoch vs. Butch Reed (10/14/85) 35.RNR Express/Reed vs Gang/Death/Kamala 2/25/85 36.Kerry Von Erich vs. Ric Flair (4/28/85) 37.Al Perez & Wendell Cooley vs. Dr. Death & Bob Sweetan (8/30/85) 38.Butch Reed vs. Ric Flair (11/8/85) 39.Dirty White Boys vs. Terry Daniels & Bill Dundee (5/11/85) 40.Bob Roop vs Mike George 12/16/81 41.Mr. Olympia vs Paul Orndorff 2/3/82 42.Terry Taylor vs. Ric Flair (6/1/85) 43.JYD/Wrestling 2 vs Dibiase/Borne 2/16/83 44.Duggan/Fantastics vs Midnights/Cornette 7/20/84 45.JYD/Mr.Olympia vs Duggan/Dibiase 8/18/82 46.RNR Express/Lothario vs Landell/Guerreros 1/18/85 47.Magnum TA vs Ted Dibiase Houston 7/6/84 48.The Fantastics vs. Steve Williams & Jake The Snake Roberts (4/14/85) 49.Dibiase/Williams vs Gordy/Duggan Texas Tornado 1/21/85 50.Kerry Von Erich vs. Ric Flair (5/4/85) 51.Ted Dibiase & Dr. Death vs. Rock N Roll Express (6/19/85) 52.Rock n Roll Express vs. Midnight Express (6/30/85) 53.Dick Murdoch vs. The Nightmare (7/14/85) 54.The Fantastics vs. Dutch Mantell & Bill Dundee (10/4/85) 55.Ric Flair vs. Terry Taylor (4/28/85) 56.Magnum TA/Gee vs Ladd/Reed 11/4/84 57.Terry Gordy & Buddy Roberts vs. Rock N Roll Express (6/24/85) 58.Dirty White Boys vs. Rock N Roll Express (4/15/85) 59.Rock n Roll Express vs. Jake Roberts & Barbarian (6/28/85) 60.Ted DiBiase vs. Bob Sweetan (10/11/85) 61.Ric Flair vs. Terry Taylor (5/3/85) 62.Stagger Lee/Mr.Olympia vs Dibiase/Borne Loser leaves town 12/18/82 63.Brickhouse/Master Gee vs Ladd/Reed 10/21/84 64.Ted Dibiase vs Brad Armstrong 2/10/85 65.Killer Khan vs Chris Adams 9/9/84 66.Brad Armstong vs Ted Dibiase 1/16/85 67.Butch Reed vs. Ric Flair (10/11/85) 68.Nick Bockwinkel vs JYD 6/11/82 69.Buddy landell/Butch Reed vs RNR Express 3/28/84 70.Buck Robley vs One Man Gang Lumberjack Match 9/15/82 71.Buzz Sawyer & Dick Slater vs. The Fantastics (10/27/85) 72.Porkchop Cash and Bill Dundee vs Midnight Express 4/6/84 73.Fantastics vs Midnight Express No DQ 9/28/84 74.Kevin Von Erich vs Chris Adams 1/18/85 75.Hacksaw Duggan & Dick Murdoch vs. Kamala & Kareem Muhammad (7/14/85) 76.Adrian Street vs Chris Adams 10/10/84 77.Butch Reed vs Skip Young 3/23/84 78.Fantastics vs Midnight Express 8/9/84 79.Bob roop vs Ted Dibiase 4/2/82 80.Iron Shiek vs Butch Reed 4/8/83 81.Magnum TA/Wrestling II vs Midnight Express 2/10/84 82.Dusty Rhodes vs Nick Bockwinkel 5/20/83 83.Midnight Express vs RNR Express Scaffold match 12/2/84 84.Terry Taylor vs Adrian street 12/7/84 The biggest disappointment of this set so far has been Ric Flair and the Midnights. The midnight matches got better towards the end but the Fantastics feud was just bad. Especially the no DQ match. And I like Flair but the Taylor matches were just so boring.

I'm guessing Punk and Matt Hardy will be added to the match. Probably Morrison too. Man Jeff is an idiot.

AAA had a pretty good 2007. I would watch the whole Apache/Billy Boy feud. You also got the Mesias/Cibernetico feud.

Because both were close with Paul E and it was after they were fired from WCW?

That is classic. How long did Nick Gulas last with Tojo as his main draw in 1988?

After 4 discs, Here's my list: 1.Ted Dibiase vs. Jim Duggan (No Dq, cage match in tuxedos, loser leaves town, coal miners glove on a poll) (3/22/85) 2.Ted Dibiase/Matt borne vs JYD/Mr. Olympia loser leaves town 10/27/82 3.Mr. Olympia vs Chavo Guerrero 6/24/83 4.Mr.Wrestling 2/Magnum TA vs Butch Reed and Jim Neidhart 12/25/83 5.Mr. Olympia vs Bob Roop 7/15/82 6.Hacksaw Duggan vs Ted Dibiase Texas Streetfight 7/29/83 7.Stagger Lee/Bill Watts vs Midnight Express 4/22/84 8.RNR/Duggan vs Midnights/Ladd Tulsa 7/2/84 9.Midnights vs RNR Express 5/23/84 10.Magnum TA vs Ted Dibiase No DQ Tulsa 5/27/84 11.RNR/Duggan vs Midnights/Ladd 6/8/84 12.Ted Dibiase vs Hacksaw Duggan 3/8/85 13.Duggan/Rhodes vs Hernandez/Reed 8/19/84 14.Magnum TA vs Ted Dibiase No DQ OKC 5/27/84 15.Los Guerreros vs RNR Express 2/13/85 16.Los GUerreros vs Fantastics 10/12/84 17.Los Guerreros/Buddy Landell vs Lothario/Dundee/Brown Elimination match 11/16/84 18.RNR Express vs Midnights 1/21/85 19.Rock N Roll Express vs. Ted DiBiase & Dr. Death Steve Williams (5/3/85) 20.Rock n Roll Express vs. Dirty White Boys (5/11/85) 21.RNR Express/Reed vs Gang/Death/Kamala 2/25/85 22.Kerry Von Erich vs. Ric Flair (4/28/85) 23.Dirty White Boys vs. Terry Daniels & Bill Dundee (5/11/85) 24.Bob Roop vs Mike George 12/16/81 25.Mr. Olympia vs Paul Orndorff 2/3/82 26.Terry Taylor vs. Ric Flair (6/1/85) 27.JYD/Wrestling 2 vs Dibiase/Borne 2/16/83 28.Duggan/Fantastics vs Midnights/Cornette 7/20/84 29.JYD/Mr.Olympia vs Duggan/Dibiase 8/18/82 30.RNR Express/Lothario vs Landell/Guerreros 1/18/85 31.Magnum TA vs Ted Dibiase Houston 7/6/84 32.The Fantastics vs. Steve Williams & Jake The Snake Roberts (4/14/85) 33.Dibiase/Williams vs Gordy/Duggan Texas Tornado 1/21/85 34.Kerry Von Erich vs. Ric Flair (5/4/85) 35.Ted Dibiase & Dr. Death vs. Rock N Roll Express (6/19/85) 36.Ric Flair vs. Terry Taylor (4/28/85) 37.Magnum TA/Gee vs Ladd/Reed 11/4/84 38.Terry Gordy & Buddy Roberts vs. Rock N Roll Express (6/24/85) 39.Dirty White Boys vs. Rock N Roll Express (4/15/85) 40.Rock n Roll Express vs. Jake Roberts & Barbarian (6/28/85) 41.Ric Flair vs. Terry Taylor (5/3/85) 42.Stagger Lee/Mr.Olympia vs Dibiase/Borne Loser leaves town 12/18/82 43.Brickhouse/Master Gee vs Ladd/Reed 10/21/84 44.Ted Dibiase vs Brad Armstrong 2/10/85 45.Killer Khan vs Chris Adams 9/9/84 46.Brad Armstong vs Ted Dibiase 1/16/85 47.Nick Bockwinkel vs JYD 6/11/82 48.Buddy landell/Butch Reed vs RNR Express 3/28/84 49.Buck Robley vs One Man Gang Lumberjack Match 9/15/82 50.Porkchop Cash and Bill Dundee vs Midnight Express 4/6/84 51.Fantastics vs Midnight Express No DQ 9/28/84 52.Kevin Von Erich vs Chris Adams 1/18/85 53.Adrian Street vs Chris Adams 10/10/84 54.Butch Reed vs Skip Young 3/23/84 55.Fantastics vs Midnight Express 8/9/84 56.Bob roop vs Ted Dibiase 4/2/82 57.Iron Shiek vs Butch Reed 4/8/83 58.Magnum TA/Wrestling II vs Midnight Express 2/10/84 59.Dusty Rhodes vs Nick Bockwinkel 5/20/83 60.Midnight Express vs RNR Express Scaffold match 12/2/84 61.Terry Taylor vs Adrian street 12/7/84 Disc 4 was real tough to watch. Especially for the Flair/Taylor matches. I don't know why but Taylor does nothing for me.

Thanks for this Khawk. So Lyle Alzado was supposed to be in the Wrestlemania 2 battle royal? What happened?

It took you this long to figure that out? But they always come back.

We talking just CMLL here? Because AAA matches seem to have gotten longer now that the show is 3 hours long and only one fall. The shorter matches started a couple years ago. I wouldn't say the workrate has gone up, In fact I'd say it's gone down in CMLL. Especially in the upper cards. Mistico seems to always be injured and a lot of the top stars are getting older. The under cards are impressive with guys like Sombra, Valiente, Volador Jr., and others. CMLL's big problem is they got all the eggs in the Mistico basket. When he was out in late 2007, they were screwed. I mean the main event of the final big show of the year was Rey Bucanero(Who sucked as a tecnico) and Lizmark vs Shocker and Black Warrior. None of those guys are as big a draw as Mistico is. As for the best out of those mentioned, I would say Mistico, Averno and Ultimo Guerrero. In my opinion, Mistico wouldn't be as good as he is without guys like Ultimo and Averno. They make him look like a million bucks. Niebla and Shocker have been hurt with Personal problems. Rey Bucanero finally turned back Rudo and is doing pretty good and Perro Jr.is alright but I think he was better in AAA.

Probably has to do with the new HD cameras and sets they are using.

It's all an angle or something that Vince Told him to say because Rock probably refused to go to Wrestlemania the show.

A Anti Cena thread? Say it ain't so? Rock vs Cena would make huge money. Those Youtube shooters would kill YouTube with that.

Well TNA let Shelley go to PWG for a tournament. It will probably not be on DVD or PPV.

Man I got to see this. I hope it's on the Memphis project coming up. Thanks for this again Loss.

Yeah a Heel Jericho vs Punk feud would be pretty good. Jericho as a babyface is just so bland.