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Dave actually talked about that on the last WO radio show, Kenny and the Bucks are big on not wanting to come off as office guys who put themselves over everyone to the point it's hurting their potential to be big stars. He specifically mentioned it being the big reason Kenny has way less of the aura he did in Japan and how the Bucks wanted to lose every match they've been in so far.

Is it me or is Ciampa coming back really fast from major neck surgery?

Assuming the photo of that shiner AEW posted was legit, looks like Bea stiffed Britt again.

I'd be interested to see how these first to weeks of excellent TV have done to move the remaining tickets that haven't sold for upcoming tapings.

My goodness this is so great.

AEW just stunting on them now, Mox vs Spears with PAC on commentary.

Not unless they try to make shirts or something. "The List" is a generic enough term that there wouldn't be anything they can do.

He looks like he's thinking "just be cool, no one can tell how high you are".

I would argue there's probably a case to be made that Shawn was such an unredeemable shithead from 1996--97 that it made Vince determined to never let a top guy have as much sway as he had during that time. Lest we not forget that the reason the Rock goes by his real name in movies is that Vince was demanding producer credit for the Mummy movies he was in because he owned the "Rock" name.

Baseball playoffs are on TNT and TBS, if the afternoon game runs long, AEW might get bumped. You can never tell with baseball, if it goes into extra innings it could be an all night affair.

If they had done the exact same show in the same studio with a more modern set, people would be saying how stupid it is to do studio wrestling in Atlanta with modern trappings.

Cosplay would mean the wrestlers are dressing up, not the set. Is AEW cosplaying WWE because they have a ramp and a Titan Tron? None of the wrestlers were any different than they would be on any other show they'd appear on. No one was dressed up as the Road Warriors or the Midnight Express, there weren't masked jobbers, no managers with tennis rackets. Being all "lol cosplay" because a studio wrestling show has a set like a studio wrestling show seems like people reaching for criticism because they want to dunk on Cornette for saying stupid things.

People are throwing around "cosplay" here in regards to the NWA show to the point I wonder if people know what that even means. Was anyone pretending to be anyone else other than maybe Nick Aldis (his opening promo was pretty on the nose aping Ric Flair)?

The idea was to bring back 70s/80s studio wrestling. I think it's a case of if you didn't grow up watching it, you don't get what the deal is. If you did grow up with studio wrestling, the show was awesome to watch, and nailed the asthetic they were going for. I do think there's an audience for it, since a lot of people are able to be exposed to studio wrestling due to YouTube these days. Will it beat out WWE, AEW, or even ROH? Probably not, but I think there's enough people out there for them to have a niche market. I've seen a ton of rave reviews on Twitter, of course that goes along with the whole echo chamber/bubble argument, but it seems like folks who gave it a chance generally liked what they saw.

Arn seems like a guy who's show would either be legitamtely fascinating or downright annoying based on how close he sticks to kayfabe. If I'm remembering my history correctly, Crockett was offering the big money deals to guys the WWF was trying to poach (or at least guys he thought they were trying to) and The Horsemen weren't on that list. I'm sure Vince just figured those guys would never leave JCP, and to be fair he was right. They never did until the bottom fell out and the new management pissed everyone off.

Also now that she's using the mist, it makes the Kabuki Warriors name seem less "casual racism" and more taking on the legacy. They should go all out and say she's the Great Kabuki's granddaughter (since American kayfabe was always that Muta was his son).

Austin Idol's commercial for his wrestling school was the best thing I've seen on any wrestling show this month.

So I'm guessing people's opinion on this show will hinge greatly on their opinions of Jim Cornette. He's definately in his element here, it's unfortunate if people let his views on modern wrestling color how they look at this show. I felt it was a fine little wrestling show, they did a good job introducing characters and setting up angles.

I kinda dig it, but I grew up on this kind of wrestling so it hits me pretty hard in the nostalgia feels. Besides, I don't know if it's fair to bash them for pretending it's 1985 when other sports are always harkening back to the good old days. I don't think it's the worst thing in the world to go back to your roots. The show *is* the NWA, for whatever that means these days. Hell, I kind of wish they went all out and had skinny fat jobbers and masked guys in enhancment roles.

Watching the NWA show, so far they've done a really excellent job recreating the 70s/80s studio wrestling vibe.

The saddest thing was watching all the WWE diehards out there Well-Actually'ing everyone by pointing out it was a ref stoppage rather than a DQ. As if that makes it any less lame. This show reminded me so much of 1998 era WCW before it completely went to shit, the undercard was pretty decent but the main event was so mind bendingly awful it tainted everyone's view of the whole show. You saw that a *lot* in that era.

i believe I've heard both Matt Riddle and Ronda say at different times the hardest thing about going from MMA to pro wrestling is trying to ignore years of training telling you to hit someone as hard as you can.

It's clearly trying to redo the Tyson/Austin angle, but I kinda dig how they played up that Braun and Fury were too much for the usual security geeks to handle and actual wrestlers had to come out to help. Fury's going to have to learn how to do worked punches though, he was clearly trying not to make contact out there. Which isn't the worst thing since I'm sure those indy guys didn't sign up to get KTFO by a world champion boxer.

Also is it striking anyone else as odd they are framing the draft as USA vs Fox?

Even if the PPV wouldn't have been a complete disaster, this was probably always set to be a lame duck placeholder since the draft starts Friday.