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The Moolah episode was interesting. They never really denied that the stories were true, the only defenders were her daughter (and where was any mention of the story about her bringing neglect charges against her mother?), Bambi who came off like a uber mark just happy to be in the business, and the Fight For Moolah guy who was like the personification of every creepy women's wrestling fan on the internet. It was also telling seeing Victoria tell a story about Moolah trying to pimp her out, then ending the show by saying "you better not call her a pimp because that makes me a prostitute". It showed to me that there's basically two camps: people who Moolah didn't prey on and therefore assume all the allegations are lies, and those it did happen to who either are honest about who Moolah was or are in denial because otherwise it would mean having to admit they got pimped out. Her legacy is an interesting thing too. She clearly kept women's wrestling running when it probably wouldn't have otherwise, and should deserve credit for that. She honestly probably wasn't any better or worse than any other wrestling promoter of the time, it's just more scandalous because it was a woman doing sleazy pro wrestling promoter shit. On the other hand, she definitely outstayed her welcome, and her 80s run as a serious threat rather than the old legend passing the torch is pretty embarrassing to watch. Even if Vince wanted to show uppity broad Wendi who's boss for wanting to get paid, putting the title back on Moolah more or less killed women's wrestling on a major league level as anything serious until the recent "revolution", save a couple years in the 90s when Madusa was there.
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It's a legit concern. My only worry for Earl is if he takes a bump he might turn into dust like he got Thanos snapped.
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Is it weird that I'm kind of happy he didn't make it? Seems like too nice a guy for the wrestling business.
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Understandable, but I don't expect them to run the usual "hey this is the guy that screwed Bret" angles.
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I just love that between the Nitro-reminiscent flames and the "we're back in the wrestling business", TNT's announcement tweet seemed to be designed for maximum Vince trolling.
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I'd be willing to bet that Moolah was worried if Wendi got hot (as in mainstream MTV in the 80s hot, not just rasslin' hot) she'd lose her place as the supreme dictator of all women's wrestling. At the same time, Wendi seems like the type where getting the push she already was getting probably made her think she didn't have to listen to that old bat call the shots anymore now that she was rubbing elbows with real entertainment stars. It really is one of those situations where looking back at the people involved it makes you think "well of course ended up that way, how else could it have?"
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The telling point for me is after Bret took his patented chest-first turnbuckle bump and it was time for Tom to go on offense, he had a deer in the headlights look and time stood still while you could see him trying to figure out what to do.
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So Lars got sent to sensitivity training for the stuff he's said, but he also got fined $100,000 which is bullshit considering he didn't work for them at the time he said what he said. So either it's a gimmick fine designed to squash the growing uproar about him being a racist shitlord, or they just legit fined a guy a major chunk of his yearly salary for some shit that happened when he wasn't even in the business yet.
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The other Tom Magee matches were so bad (the AJPW one with Wajima is apparently legendarily bad), that this one being good enough to pop a TV taping crowd in a dark match showed how good Bret really was years before everyone knew it. What really struck me is how 1986 WWF saw someone they thought had potential, had him work off TV, and even when it started to be clear he needed a lot of work they still kept him on C shows giving him every opportunity to catch on. 2019 WWE sees someone who has potential, puts them on TV whether they are ready or not, and jobs them out within a month or two making sure the audience never sees them as anything but a midlevel talent at best.
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FIrefly Fun House continuing to be the only thing worth a damn on this show.
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Man they just can't stop with the Roman stuff, they're going to end up getting a cancer survivor getting booed because they just can't help themselves.
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Gorilla especially seemed to think it was a ref screw up since Wendi's shoulder was up barely at the 2 count but he kept going. It was funny to hear them clearly not know what was going on and either figure it out gradually or most likely someone told them over the headset.
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Silver King was so good, Hijo del Santo had him be the one helping break his son into the business. If you only ever saw him in WCW, you need to check out his work in Mexico with Texano as the Cowboys, and him as Black Tiger in Japan. Also he was Ramses, the villain from the Nacho Libre movie which was one of those "win a drink at the bar" trivia questions. I always thought of him as a lucha version of Owen Hart, a really talented guy overshadowed by a more famous brother. Never expected that comparison to be so apt though.
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The official word is that he had a heart attack. It could end up being one of those things where it didn't matter how quickly help arrived, but it's not a good look to have folks just standing around with someone in obvious distress.
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Luchadores work far more dates than pretty much anywhere else in the world, the wear and tear tends to catch up with them faster.
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Holy shit, cubsfan just confirmed Silver King passed away.
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Looks like he hit Juvi with a clothesline, and when he went down to pin him something happened and his body shut down. Seemed to take an awful long time for help to arrive on the scene, maybe they thought it was part of the show?
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Silver King is wrestling Juvi on a show in the UK, and apparently he collapsed during the match and needed CPR performed. *edited title to reflect updated situation
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Yeah there's no way anyone wouldn't know it was Moolah in the ring that night. The Spider Lady costume wasn't exactly flattering and there was no one else it could have been based on the body type. What I never understood is Vince corners her before the match and demands she sign a new contract basically sight unseen, and then she gets to the ring and sees it's a different person in the Spider Lady suit and it's clearly Moolah. How does she not figure that shit's about to go down?
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I'm like, 65% convinced Herodes is Vince's PWO account at this point.
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It's a dick move, but it's not like this is something that is going to kill off Starrcast. Besides, it is WWE footage after all, it's like the people who upload stuff on YouTube and get their channels owned by WWE. It's a dick move that they have the right to do, and you can't be surprised when it happens.
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WWE TV 05/06 - 05/13: Let's just cut 30% of all federal universities' budget
sek69 replied to KawadaSmile's topic in WWE
That was kind of the thought I had, like the people she had heat with were low key worried Vince would love it since that's the exact drop-your-dick-on-the-table Alpha shit he pops for. -
The impression I got was that he was saying Gino was super paranoid from hanging around dealers and ended up accidentally OD'ing, and that it wasn't anyone putting a hit out or any other kind of foul play.
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Fritz wins after both guys get counted as down and Fritz ends up being the first to get up. So I guess that's technically a clean job by Texas Death Match rules?
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The anonymous source who basically said Gino was involved in dealing and that led to is paranoia increasing leading to his OD seems to put a bow on things except for one thing: the vast amount of coke in his system. It's hard to understate how much we're talking about if the folks doing the autopsy were amazed by the amount, and this was Dallas in the 80s when Scarface was seen as an educational video. Bix seems to think there's something to the "Jack Royal gave Gino bad coke that killed him" based on his recent tweets, but at the levels he had in his system one would think it wouldn't matter at that point if it's the bad stuff or not.