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Not to mention with HHH and Steph, no one was married. Remember when Bob Holly had an affair with that BB slut while he was married? They ended up firing her over it.

Most of you know Matt Hardy was posting cryptic messages about him and Lita breaking up, and his webmaster posted the following: The Torch is reporting the guy she was banging was Edge, which follows the "Johnny Ace tells married wrestler to stop having affair" story a little while back.

I think the years of drug abuse have aged her rapidly, which is what makes her look less hot to me. I guess as far as the weight issue goes, we can write it off as a case of different strokes. I've always been a fan of what Lane Bryant calls "curvy women". Mia Tyler> Liv.

I read somewhere that Taker got that teardrop tattoo when his first marriage ended, they got divorced due to him always being on the road, and the tattoo was his way of saying it was his fault.

I'm almost 100% sure the "Warrior is dead" thing started when Kerry Von Erich died. His "Texas Tornado" getup was similar to Warrior's with the tassels and I guess Kerry and Warrior look similar to the non-fan that people heard that the WWF guy who wore tassels was dead and assumed it was Warror. *on Edit* it also didn't help that Warrior dyed his hair a lighter shade and changed up his facepaint style when he came back which only cemented the belief that it wasn't the same guy because he "didn't look like the old Warrior".

Just because someone isn't so thin you can play xylophone on their ribcage doesn't mean they aren't healthy. I'd be willing to wager she's probably healthier now than she was in her OMGSHEZSOHAWT~! phase. It just bothers me when people think any female who isn't waifishly thin is a disgusting fat pig.

I think it all boils down to her wanting to stay clean, and if that means she's not the faptastic babe she was 10 years ago so be it. On the same token, my anaconda don't want none unless you got buns, hon.

Ain't nothing wrong with a little junk in the trunk. Skinny girls turn me off, I'd be afraid I'd break 'em if I fucked one.

It's not like she's bigger than Yokozuna, I mean shit, I'd still do her.

I think Chris Candido mentioned something about her weight gain having to do with her drug problem, I believe it was something like she gained the weight when she got off the drugs she was abusing as a side effect, kind of like people who get a pot belly after they quit smoking.

The Rockers: Their feud with Buddy Rose and Doug Somers for the AWA tag titles is one of the things that got me first interested in wrestling. It's really amazing how they were able to get some good matches out of the hoss-clogged late 80s-early 90s WWF tag scene. Especially when you factor in the amount of drugs they were on as well. Ted DiBiase: One of the all time "who did he piss off in a past life?" guys, he seemed to get screwed by politics everywhere he went. My vote for the greatest wrestler to never win a world title. Arn Anderson: One of the greats. Had the amazing ability to team up with almost anyone and have it click. Sid: I can't help it, I always liked Sid. He played the psycho gimmick great, and he did pretty much everything you could ask of a big guy in wrestling. Kevin Sullivan: The one who took the art of the crazy brawl and perfected it before ECW was a tingle in Paul E's pants. Seemed to suffer from what all brillant wrestling minds seem to suffer from: being completely batshit crazy. BTW, when he was doing the Satanist gimmick full bore in Florida, it was pretty close to his real life beliefs at that point. I think he's toned that part down these days but he's still an oddball. Psicosis: Honestly, outside of his crazy mask, he never stood out in the sea of lucha to me. I mean, I enjoyed his matches and all, but nothing really grabbed me as "OMG THIS IS GREAT~!". I was also disappointed to find out his crazy afro mullet was part of his mask. Ken Shamrock: He's responsible for one of my top RAW moments, when he stiffed the jobber he was facing and made the guy's nose explode.

Booker T: Solid worker who always seemed to get stuck in stupid angles/gimmicks. It's sad to see him resigned to the fact he'll never get much farther than he is in WWE. Bobby Heenan: Not only one of the great managers, one of the greatest announcers ever. Would Ric Flair's Rumble win be as ingrained in your brain as it is if Heenan didn't have 15 heart attacks every time someone tried to throw him out? Curt "Mr. Perfect" Hennig: Solid worker who never seemed to catch a break. Either the promotion giving him a chance at the top was going down the shitter (AWA), or he'd get injured as soon as he'd get a chance (WWF). Terry Funk: Watching footage of him as NWA champion, you can't even reconcile it as the same moonsault-throwing crazy old man we see today. His second career as a crazy brawler helped give street cred to the gargbage style that seemed to cap off with the rise (and fall, *cheap pop*) of ECW. Lex Luger: The poster child for the evils of wrestling politics. He was the hottest thing in wrestling circa 1986-87 yet never got the chance to run with the belt. Dusty Rhodes: I actually have a soft spot for everyone's favorite punching bag. It's funny how so many smart fans are marks for JCP era NWA, yet they hate the guy who booked a lot of it. Hell, anyone who comes up with Wargames can't be all bad. Rick Martel: Probably one of the most underrated heels ever, not to mention part of one of the most famous heel turns ever. Weird combo, yet it seems Rick Martel is never the first person thought of when it comes to good workers or good heels yet he was certainly both. The Great Muta/Keiji Muto: I'd say either Muto or Austin win the award for the biggest turnaround/revival of a wrestling career. High flying Muta and the Stone Cold-esque Muto are almost like 2 totally different people. The only bad thing is I think he has a contest with Terry Funk to see who's knees completely explode first. Sean Waltman (1-2-3 Kid/Syxx/X-Pac): I remember watching him as the Lightning Kid in the old Global Wrestling Federation, impressed at how this little dude could go. He probably should have retired after his injury, he's pretty much been a hanger-on with his clique pals since. Ric Flair: No doubt one of the greatest of all time, I feel he gets a pass from a lot of people who would normally bitch about politics because of his unquestioned ability.

I don't really think Steamboat had bad mic skills, it would have been weird to hear the standard "I HATE YOUR GUTS" promo coming from him.

Lance Storm: To me, he always seemed like a wrestler from the 70s transported to current times. Technically there was few better, but he never really had charisma even before it became his gimmick to be boring. Nikita Koloff: One of my favorites as a young NWA mark, his series with Magnum proved he was more than just a Soviet sterotype roid monster. Ironically I think making him the one to replace Magnum as the top babyface after the accident might have hurt his career as he ended up being Dusty's second banana instead of the feared Russian badass. By the way, I don't think it was injuries that ended his career, his first wife was dying of cancer and he found Jeebus and retired. Scott Norton: Most people (including people in this thread) dismiss him out of hand because of his hoss credientials and that his WCW work was fairly subpar. He had better work in Japan, becoming one of the most over gajin. Bam Bam Bigelow: I always was partial to Bam Bam, but he must have shit in someone's gym bag for the way he was always misused in the WWF despite having that hossality Vince gets wood for. Chris Benoit: This will probably get me crucified, but I never really got into Benoit. Yeah he has good matches, but very rarely do I actually get into his matches. He's another guy who would have probably been a multiple time world champion in the 70s. Raven: He reminds me of an in-ring version of Paul Heyman: absolutely brilliant mind for wrestling but can't keep from cutting his own throat. Seems like one of those guys who would rather be a big fish in a small pond than vice versa. Ultimo Dragon: I remember seeing him on Nitro busting out stuff I've never seen before, and he probably would have had an even better career if WCW's penchant for botching hadn't carried over to the operating room. Dory Funk Jr: Great worker from an era where workrate > charisma. Kinda sad to see him still getting in the ring when you consider people make comments about Terry being an old man yet he's the YOUNGER Funk Brother. Ricky Steamboat: My vote for the greatest US worker ever. Probably the only guy who's ever competed in pro wrestling that doesn't have a drugs/booze/whores story to his name. Him working for WWE as an agent gives me a small glimmer of hope that someone would actually seek him out for advice. Davey Boy Smith: I never cared for Davey. He only became who he was because Dynamite carried him, and he only stayed where he was because people like HBK would put their extra bumping gear on for matches with him.

I'm honestly shocked they haven't done one of Empire Strikes Back with Shane as Luke and Vince as Vader. "I *AM* YOUR FATHER" "NOOOOOO! ITS NOT TRUE!"

Barry Windham was one of the best workers in the NWA when he was motivated, he'd go 60 with Flair like it wasn't no thing. Sadly, once he got a taste of the upper card he got fat and lazy, and his workrate quicky circled the bowl.

I remember getting into huge flamefights with people because I dared to say something outside the Offically Accepted Opinon on things and have people just dogpile on me for the sake of it. So the evil side of online fandom Man in Blak spoke of does exist, we've just done a good job filtering that side out around these parts.

Maybe it's just me then. I just seemed to sense people turning on Batista now that it's offical he's facing HHH at WM. It's just a vibe I got.

1. I see where you're going with this, and it very well may be that they don't have faith in his promo skills, but what I've heard of him is Perfectly Acceptable Promo Work so far. I'm sure he knows he's going to have to step his game up if he gets the belt. 2. Agreed 100%. HHH has RAW set up where getting anyone else over is tough because he's taken the balls of everyone else on the roster. 3. I think he has improved. When he started, he was pretty much limited to the Generic Hoss Moveset, and while he's not the next Lou Thesz I think he's made great strides in terms of improving his workrate. He's been in matches with people other than Benoit where he's had to do more than be carried and he's handled himself well. 4. I think this point is what's causing the IWC heel turn on Batista. Now that it looks like he's going to get the title, all it does is start the countdown to HHH winning it back again. I could make a comparison here to HHH's idol, but I don't want Loss to have a stroke.

Assuming he wins at WM, everyone seems to be expecting him to be weak champion.

The prevailing wisdom amongst the IWC (I hate that term, but what else do you call them?) is that Batista is doomed to fail once he gets the belt.

I love how once it appears clear that someone new is getting a world title push, the IWC turns on them like one of Hulk Hogan's partners in the 80s. Obviously there's a big "now what?" factor after HHH drops the title to anyone, and that's mainly because he dominated for so long that no one is seen as a credible main eventer anymore because they've all lost to Hunter 657 times. Wrestling 101 says you put the title on your hottest hand. Batista's that guy now. He's over, he's got the look that gives Vince wood, and he shows signs of having charisma (which is all you need to be a top star in wrestling).

Yeah, HHH's promo wasn't really needed, it just made things drag too long. Didn't take away from the marktitude of HHH getting the Pimp Bomb through the table.

Even though the booking was about as obvious as you can get, I still marked out for Batista turning on HHH. I liked the callback to them turning on Orton with the thumbs down too. That's as close to continuity as we'll get with WWE programming these days.

I liked the 85-93 era of the NWA as well as the heyday of WCCW. I used to watch AWA and World Class on ESPN every day and I didn't even know the World Class stuff was years old until they made mention of someone as NWA world champion that wasn't right for the year I was watching it. There was just something about watching wrestling in front of smaller crowds in buildings that probably were used for flea markets the day before that made a better connection with me than the WWF having super mega shows in front of tens of thousands.