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Indirectly, yeah I did. He was interested in the Kevin Nash Torch interview so I pointed him to the thread about it here.

I started watching when I was about 5, so that would have been around 1983-ish. My grandfather was a wrestling fan, we used to watch Saturday Night on TBS. He spent winters in Florida and he used to go the shows down there, as he was a fan of Dusty Rhodes. I started watching the WWF between WM 2 and 3. I actually remember watching the match where Hogan got squashed by Bundy that left him having to have taped ribs at WM 2, but I really started watching the WWF full time during the build to WM 3. I remember seeing Andre walk out during Piper's Pit and just thinking "whoa, that dude's not human". A lot of the wrestling I watched in the early days was thanks to ESPN, they aired AWA and World Class TV shows. I remember watching the Rockers vs Rose/Somers bloodbath when it happened, thinking it was the best thing I've ever seen. I also remember my grandfather and my dad both on the edge of their seats watching the Hennig/Bockwinkel one hour draw on New Year's Eve. I've watched some puro, probably more than the average wrestling fan but not nearly as much as the hardcore puro guys. I've seen all the must-see classic matches and I'm familiar with the top names, but not so much on the up and coming guys.

I think they lost faith in Gail Kim after she had a few matches where she had Jackie Gayda level bad blown spots, even getting hurt on one.

This is really starting to piss me off, its like creative is a bunch of grade schoolers thinking of embarrassing things they can make the new talent do. Think about it, this is Jillian Hall for those who haven't seen her: Hey, a blonde with nice big fake yabbos, tailor made for WWE right? No, they want to give her the same "mole" gimmick Fred Savage had in Goldmember. Seriously, when they can't even think up a gimmick for their T&A, what hope do actual wrestlers have?

Matt Morgan is now a newcomer who's a stuttering idiot, despite being part of Heyman's stable on SD not even a year ago. Why do the *insist* on giving newcomers the stupidest gimmicks possible? It's like they get off on putting as many obstacles as possible in front of people. MNM seemed to avoid it happening to them only because they're more interested in Melina than the team.

I think we all saw this coming. Jericho has no chance of advancement as long as he's on the same show as HHH, so why re-sign for more years of cleaning up dog poo?

I would assume discussion would mainly focus on WWE since its what most of us have the greatest access to. I'd like to talk more about TNA but its on at 4pm here and I don't get home from work till 5:30. Even the replays are off-schedule now since baseball season started. I was kind of digging the Thoughts About These Wrestlers threads, but there's only so much you can do with them. Perhaps I should start reviewing WWE DVDs for kicks. If people like Scooter can get a following I should be able to put some quality slop together.

Here's a better recap:

Edge seems to be really trying to raise the bar when it comes to being an asshole. The woman he fucked his friend over for gets turned on by the crowd and all he thinks of is the heat it'll get him.

If I'm not mistaken (and I don't think I am since they show it as part of that "Don't Try This At Home" thing on every DVD), when the table broke Angle's head bounced off the floor with most of HHH's weight behind it since he was in position for the pedigree. You can see HHH try to let go once he felt the table give and he had a "oh shit" look on his face as they fell.

Not to mention Stacy also started going out with Test who is (or was at least) pals with Shane.

One day someone's going to get really pissed over this junior high bullshit and one of Vince's young hosses is going to end up in deep shit. Of course if that ever does happen, the worker will certainly be pushed under the bus despite the WWF/E locker room being completely out of control for at least the last 10-15 years.

By the way, how has Vince not been the center of a multi-million dollar hostile workplace lawsuit? All these tales of childish initiations and not one legal case? C'mon, this is America - Land of Lawsuits.

Man, the more I learn about wrestlers the less I want to keep watching. What a bunch of spoiled babies.

I think people's (justified) HHHate makes them ignore the fact that he could go when he felt like it. Of course him only putting forth the effort when he feels like it is part of why he's hated, but what ever.

All the matches you listed are ones where Jericho is matched up with the best workers in the company (yes I'd consider HHH and HBK great when motivated). No one's saying Jericho isn't capable in the ring, and when he's matched with a solid worker who's on his game it usually makes a great match. It's when Jericho is matched with lesser workers when his faults tend to show.

Not to mention he more often than not went out of his way to be a dick back then, no matter if the situation called for it.

What the fuck was Kurt Angle? A JTTS? Angle's title runs were so badly booked I don't think WWE considers him main event material. They probably want someone like HBK who they can stick in the main event at any time and have mark credibility.

Jericho has no motivation to put on a show anymore. He's never going to get a break in WWE because HHH has sand in his vagina over him.

Vis must be tight with Jerry Lawler, he's always working his Memphis shows between his WWE gigs. I think Vis has a case of Terry Taylor Disease where he was tagged with a lame gimmick (Mable? wtf was that?) in his first WWF run. Not to mention people that were upset that he won the King of the Ring. As far as telegraphing shows, I think its a sign of desparation. They're trying to get people to watch so they spoil things that used to be suprises.

Well he's certainly testing how safe his job is....the ironic part is I bet Vince is more upset that he gave a non-WWE authorized interview.

I guess I'm the only one who doesn't mind Big Vis. I mean he's actually not that bad of a worker for a big guy. How many near-500 pounders even attempt a spinning heel kick? As long as he isn't main eventing PPVs I don't have a problem with him feuding with Kane.

I'm surprised HHH would let his boyfriend go to Smackdown, who else is going to job to him without complaint? What would the point be bringing Angle to RAW? On paper it sounds good since it would be a fresh heel, but since he doesn't get along that great with HHH I can't imagine they're going to be wild about doing a program.

Who'da thunk that after Brock/Goldberg at WMXX and tonight that MSG is the new ECW Arena crowd.