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reading that fake prom link made me embarassed to be part of the human race. I'll probably get heat for this, but my first instinct was "Oh, that's terrible," but then I laughed. It does have an equal mixture of "Wow, this is fucked up," and, "Oh my god, this is hilarious." Things like this are really a dime a dozen to me now, after being in war, and in a state of nature, I am desensitized to these "minute" blimps of imperfection of the human race.

Wouldn't this number be everyone who watches Raw every Monday?

Some problems with that, though.First, Bret losing three PPV matches, which are hotshotting feuds (Razor/Diesel). Let alone Diesel going from World champ to IC champ; which I doubt he'd ever go for, and it would devalue his reign as champion slightly more. Anyway, the IC, from your booking would also be devalued going from HBK, to Owen, then to Razor, and then to Diesel. Razor had just had a program with Bret, and for the big eagle belt, is soundly bested, and now goes after the IC title? I'm presuming that Razor/Kid would beat Owen/Davey? Bret would look weak coming into his title match @ WM, as he has lost matches as World champion against IC and Tag champions. This booking would probably work in TEW, but in reality, not so much. There are too many large egos involved.

That Orland Jordan segment was weird, disturbing, and seemed like it should have been in a '90s indie snuff film...oh wait.

I think they would have jobbed to them in '95, but after WrestleMania 12 and throughout all of '97, it would have been terrible. I think HBK would have been especially fond of doing the job, that is, if he was guaranteed the strap prior to the iron man match.

Oh boo hoo.

Regardless, Cena came out looking better; had submitted HBK at WrestleMania 23, and then it took HBK nearly an hour to beat a man known to not work long (30+) matches.

His body has obviously changed, especially not long after his return when he was still on the juice. He came back looking somewhat toned up and then suddenly looked awfully plain.Honestly though, I don't think he's changed all that much since coming back. He has had plenty of opportunities to put people over, like Jericho and Morrison/Miz, but has never truly done so. Hell, Jericho took a count out loss to HBK a few weeks back...and he is holding the big gold belt. Shawn Michaels is an asshole. Unless you're a naive teenaged girl; everyone hates assholes because they're an asshole. He may not be as selfish and conceited, let alone hypocritical as he used to be, but he is certainly at a higher level than most are going to allow and still find agreeable. Who has he really put over, though? Superman Cena...the Undertaker...Orton kind of. I'm curious though - how do you know he works harder than most everyone else in the company? Just because his matches are perceived better doesn't mean that he works harder...some people have more natural talent, leeway with the booking sheets, etc.

What has Goldberg done to earn his place in the WWF's Hall of Fame? I mean, I was a huge fan of the guy in '98, but that is just absurd.

No? Hmm. I seem to remember Dyno continuously bashing his drug/steroid/alcohol addictions.

That's one thing I particularly enjoyed about Dynamite's book, same with Jericho, they seemed to be extremely honest about their failures and shortcomings, whereas Bret and Flair make excuses and exaggerate their greatness. The moral of the story is humility.

Agreed. I did like the falcon arrow to the floor between Marufuji & KENTA, as I remember Marufuji selling it nicely.

Even after watching the Lawler/Race match a second time, I still don't know where to rate it. And, your welcome good sir. By the way, I did review it, in case you missed it. http://prowrestlingonly.com/index.php?s=&a...t&p=5443324

The high paced spots are cool and all, but at certain times, and with certain people. Ten years ago I would have drooled all over myself for this match, but since I was fourteen I have found other mediums of professional wrestling to satisfy my interests. The main problem with this match was the horrid selling. I mean, an avalanche release German suplex that went nowhere, which was quickly followed up by Davey's finisher and Aries still kicked out. That just screams "overkill All Japan style" to me and Aries/Richards is not Misawa/Kobashi/Kawada.

Some (well...me) lost respect for him just reading his book, which happened to be after his return on Jan. 4th. Like the saying goes, "every man has his price."

I do accept tips.

I was watching Raw & Impact on Monday, when I fiancee walked in and sat down. She sat there and watched pro wrestling with me, which I think is awesome. The funny part? She has never seen TNA, and asked, "Why are they showing WCW on Spike, didn't the WWF buy them out?" I got a big kick out of that, as she isn't a fan of wrestling and can see how terrible TNA.

Like Floyd, I am blatantly stealing this idea from Loss (and Floyd). 1969 3/5/69 - the Destroyer vs. Giant Baba JWA ***** 1970 1971 1972 1973 1974 1975 1976 1977 12/10/77 - Harley Race vs. Jerry Lawler Memphis 1978 1979 1980 2/5/80 - Dynamite Kid vs. Tatsumi Fujinami NJPW ****1/4 2/8/80 - Stan Hansen vs. Antonio Inoki NJPW ***1/4 4/3/80 - Stan Hansen vs. Antonio Inoki NJPW ***3/4 9/9/80 - Harley Race vs. Giant Baba AJPW *1/4 1981 4/23/81 - Dynamite Kid vs. Tiger Mask NJPW **** 9/23/81 - Andre the Giant vs. Stan Hansen NJPW ***** 11/14/81 - Andre the Giant vs. Killer Khan WWF *3/4 Stretcher 1982 1/28/82 - Dynamite Kid vs. Tiger Mask NJPW ***3/4 4/1/82 - Andre the Giant vs. Killer Khan NJPW **** 5/26/82 - Tiger Mask vs. Black Tiger NJPW *** 8/5/82 - Dynamite Kid vs. Tiger Mask NJPW ****1/4 9/11/82 - Stan Hansen vs. Terry Funk AJPW *** 12/13/82 - Hansen & Brody vs. the Funks AJPW ****3/4 1983 6/6/83 - Jerry Lawler vs. Bill Dundee Loser Leaves Town Memphis **3/4 10/26/83 - Jumbo Tsuruta vs. Harley Race AJPW **3/4 1984 5/22/84 - Ric Flair vs. Harley Race AJPW **3/4 5/22/84 - Jumbo Tsuruta vs. Kerry Von Erich AJPW **** 6/16/84 - Sgt. Slaughter vs. Iron Sheik WWF ****1/4 6/17/84 - Hulk Hogan vs. David Schultz WWF*1/2 7/5/84 - Dynamite Kid vs. the Cobra NJPW **1/2 7/23/84 - Slaughter/Daniels vs. Murdoch/Adonis WWF *1/4 9/1/84 - Tito Santana vs. Paul Orndorff WWF ****1/2 10/29/84 - Terry Gordy vs. Jumbo Tsuruta AJPW **1/2 12/7/84 - Fujinami/Inoki vs. Murdoch/Adonis NJPW ***** 1985 5/20/85 - Hulk Hogan vs. Don Muraco WWF * 7/20/85 - Bob Orton Jr. vs. Ricky Steamboat WWF ****1/4 9/14/85 - Dynamite Kid vs. Bret Hart WWF **** 11/27/85 - Dynamite Kid vs. Tiger Mask II AJPW **3/4 12/30/85 - Jerry Lawler vs. Bill Dundee No DQ, Loser Leaves Town Memphis ***1/2 1986 3/8/86 - Ricky Steamboat vs. Bret Hart WWF **** 4/7/86 - Dream Team vs. British Bulldogs WWF ****1/4 8/28/86 - Ricky Steamboat vs. Jake Roberts WWF *3/4 11/15/86 - Randy Savage vs. Jake Roberts WWF ****1/4 1987 3/29/87 - Randy Savage vs. Ricky Steamboat WWF ****1/4 1988 3/11/88 - Hiroshi Hase vs. Nobuhiko Takada NJPW ****1/4 4/25/88 - Bret Hart vs. Bad News Brown WWF *3/4 6/11/88 - Owen Hart vs. Keichi Yamada NJPW ***3/4 7/22/88 - Randy Savage vs. Ted DiBiase WWF *1/4 Cage 12/16/88 - Hansen & Gordy vs. Tenryu & Kawada AJPW ****1/2 1989 1/16/89 - Randy Savage vs. Bad News Brown WWF 1/4* Street Fight 2/16/89 - Hulk Hogan vs. Bad News Brown WWF 3/4* 3/8/89 - Bret Hart vs. Ted DiBiase WWF **1/4 4/2/89 - Hulk Hogan vs. Randy Savage WWF ***3/4 6/5/89 - Jumbo Tsuruta vs. Genichiro Tenryu AJPW ***** 7/1/89 - Kenta Kobashi vs. Toshiaki Kawada AJPW **1/2 8/11/89 - Dynamite Kid vs. Owen Hart Stampede ** Street Fight 8/28/89 - Ultimate Warrior vs. Rick Rude WWF ****1/4 10/2/89 - Bret Hart vs. Curt Hennig WWF ***1/2 10/31/89 - Rockers vs. Brainbusters WWF *3/4 2/3 Falls 1990 6/5/90 - Jumbo Tsuruta vs. Terry Gordy AJPW *** 6/30/90 - Toshiaki Kawada vs. Kenta Kobashi AJPW ****1/4 7/7/90 - Kenta Kobashi vs. Stan Hansen AJPW ***1/2 11/1/90 - Chono & Mutoh vs. Hase & Sasaki NJPW ****3/4 1991 4/5/91 - Mitsuharu Misawa vs. Kenta Kobashi AJPW ***1/4 4/18/91 - Jumbo Tsuruta vs. Mitsuharu Misawa AJPW ****1/2 4/28/91 - Jushin Liger vs. Owen Hart NJPW ****1/2 5/24/91 - Jumbo Tsuruta vs. Kenta Kobashi AJPW ****1/2 7/18/91 - Toshiaki Kawada vs. Masanobu Fuchi AJPW **** 7/20/91 - Jumbo Tsuruta vs. Steve Williams AJPW **** 8/11/91 - Masahiro Chono vs. Keiji Mutoh NJPW ****1/2 10/24/91 - Jumbo Tsuruta vs. Toshiaki Kawada AJPW ****3/4 1992 2/2/92 - Stan Hansen vs. Tsuyoshi Kikuchi AJPW *3/4 3/22/92 - Toshiaki Kawada vs. Kenta Kobashi AJPW ****1/2 5/22/92 - Misawa/Kobashi/Kawada vs. Tsuruta/Taue/Fuchi AJPW ***** 8/29/92 - Davey Boy Smith vs. Bret Hart WWF ****3/4 10/21/92 Mitsuharu Misawa vs. Toshiaki Kawada AJPW ****1/2 1993 3/27/93 - Mitsuharu Misawa vs. Toshiaki Kawada AJPW ****1/2 4/13/93 - Mitsuharu Misawa vs. Kenta Kobashi AJPW ****1/4 4/16/93 - Kenta Kobashi vs. Stan Hansen AJPW ****1/4 7/9/93 - Hansen & Bossman vs. Misawa & Kobashi AJPW ***3/4 7/28/93 - 8 man elimination tag AJPW ****1/4 7/29/93 - Mitsuharu Misawa vs. Toshiaki Kawada AJPW ****1/2 7/29/93 - Kenta Kobashi vs. Stan Hansen AJPW ***** 9/23/93 - Genichiro Tenryu vs. Hiroshi Hase NJPW ***3/4 10/18/93 - Kenta Kobashi vs. Big Bossman AJPW **1/4 11/24/93 - Williams & Bossman vs. Misawa & Kobashi AJPW **** 12/1/93 - Williams & Bossman vs. Kawada & Taue AJPW ****1/4 1994 3/20/94 Owen Hart vs. Bret Hart WWF ****3/4 3/20/94 Shawn Michaels vs. Razor Ramon WWF ****1/2 Ladder 4/10/94 Kenta Kobashi vs. Stan Hansen AJPW ****1/4 4/11/94 Mitsuharu Misawa vs. Toshiaki Kawada AJPW ****1/2 4/16/94 Jushin Liger vs. Great Sasuke NJPW ***** 4/16/94 Wild Pegasus vs. Great Sasuke NJPW ***** 6/3/94 Mitsuharu Misawa vs. Toshiaki Kawada AJPW ***** 8/29/94 Owen Hart vs. Bret Hart WWF ***** Cage 12/14/94 Shinya Hashimoto vs. Hiroshi Hase NJPW ****1/2 1995 4/15/95 - Dean Malenko vs. Eddie Guerrero ECW ***** 6/9/95 Misawa/Kobashi vs. Kawada/Taue AJPW ***** 6/30/95 Kawada/Honda/Taue vs. Misawa/Kobashi/Asako AJPW **** 8/20/95 Cactus Jack vs. Terry Funk IWA **** 8/26/95 - Dean Malenko vs. Eddie Guerrero ECW ****1/2 10/7/95 - Rey Mysterio Jr vs. Psicosis ECW ****3/4 10/25/95 Toshiaki Kawada vs. Gary Albright AJPW ****1/2 12/13/95 Gran Naniwa vs. Damien 666 WAR DUD 12/13/95 Wild Pegasus vs. Lionheart WAR ****1/4 12/13/95 Shinjiro Otani vs. Masaaki Mochizuki WAR ***3/4 12/13/95 Ultimo Dragon vs. Shoichi Funaki WAR **3/4 12/13/95 Masayoshi Motegi vs. Gedo WAR *1/4 12/13/95 El Samurai vs. Dos Caras WAR ***3/4 12/13/95 Lionheart vs. Hanzo Nakajima WAR *3/4 12/13/95 Jushin Liger vs. Gran Naniwa WAR *3/4 1996 9/22/96 Mankind vs. Shawn Michaels WWF ****3/4 9/29/96 Volk Han vs. Kiyoshi Tamura RINGS ****1/4 12/6/96 Misawa/Akiyama vs. Kawada/Taue AJPW ***** 1997 1/22/97 Volk Han vs. Kiyoshi Tamura RINGS ****1/2 3/23/97 Bret Hart vs. Steve Austin WWF ***** Submission 8/3/97 Mankind vs. Triple H WWF ***3/4 Cage (Clips) 8/9/97 Terry Funk vs. Sabu ECW ***** Barbed Wire 9/26/97 Volk Han vs. Kiyoshi Tamura RINGS ****3/4 10/5/97 Undertaker vs. Shawn Michaels WWF ****1/2 HIAC 10/26/97 Eddy Guerrero vs. Rey Mysterio Jr. WCW ***** Title vs. Mask 1998 5/29/98 Volk Han vs. Tsuyoshi Kohsaka RINGS ****1/4 6/27/98 Kiyoshi Tamura vs. Tsuyoshi Kohsaka RINGS ****3/4 6/28/98 Mankind vs. Undertaker WWF ***** HIAC 1999 1/15/99 Kenta Kobashi vs. Vader AJPW **** 1/24/99 Rock vs. Mankind WWF ****1/4 I Quit 4/16/99 Kenta Kobashi vs. Vader AJPW ****1/4 5/22/99 Mitsuharu Misawa vs. Vader AJPW ****1/2 6/20/99 Ryuji Yamakawa vs. Tomoaki Honma BJPW ***1/4 7/23/99 Vader & Albright vs. Kobashi & Akiyama AJPW **1/2 10/4/99 Chris Benoit vs. Bret Hart WCW ****3/4 UNCUT version 10/17/99 Hardy Boys vs. Edge & Christian WWF ***** Ladder 2000 1/23/00 Triple H vs. Cactus Jack WWF ****3/4 Street Fight 4/9/00 Blue Panther vs. El Hijo del Santo ***1/2 2/17/00 Vader vs. Toshiaki Kawada AJPW *** 8/27/00 Three Way Tag Team WWF ***** TLC 9/17/00 Scott Steiner vs. Goldberg WCW **3/4 10/28/00 Toshiaki Kawada vs. Genichiro Tenryu AJPW ****1/4 2001 1/21/01 Chris Jericho vs. Chris Benoit WWF ****3/4 Ladder 4/1/01 Three Way Tag Team WWF ****1/2 TLC 4/1/01 Rock vs. Steve Austin WWF ****3/4 5/21/01 Benoit/Jericho vs. Austin/HHH WWF ***** 5/24/01 Four Way Tag Team WWF ****3/4 TLC 5/31/01 Chris Benoit vs. Steve Austin WWF ****3/4 6/11/01 Chris Benoit vs. Kurt Angle WWF ****1/2 Cage 10/21/01 the Rock vs. Chris Jericho WWF ***3/4 2002 5/27/02 Rob Van Dam vs. Eddy Guerrero WWF **** Ladder 8/25/02 Shawn Michaels vs. Triple H WWF ****3/4 Street Fight 8/28/02 Jerry Lynn vs. Low-Ki vs. AJ Styles TNA ***3/4 Ladder 2003 1/19/03 Chris Benoit vs. Kurt Angle WWF ***** 3/1/03 Kenta Kobashi vs. Mitsuharu Misawa NOAH ***** 2004 3/14/04 Benoit vs. HHH vs. Michaels WWF ***** 4/18/04 Randy Orton vs. Cactus Jack WWF ****3/4 FCA 4/18/04 Benoit vs. HHH vs. Michaels WWF ****1/2 7/10/04 Kenta Kobashi vs. Jun Akiyama NOAH ***** 8/15/04 Chris Benoit vs. Randy Orton WWF **** 2005 1/16/05 Toshiaki Kawada vs. Kensuke Sasaki AJPW ****1/2 2/26/05 Mistico vs. Ultimo Guerrero ** 4/3/05 Shawn Michaels vs. Kurt Angle WWF **** 5/2/05 Shelton Benjamin vs. Shawn Michaels WWF **** 6/12/05 Masato Tanaka vs. Mike Awesome WWF ****1/2 9/11/05 Styles vs. Joe vs. Daniels TNA ****3/4 10/23/05 Abyss vs. Hardy vs. Sabu vs. Rhino TNA ***1/4 Monsters Ball 2006 1/16/06 Edge vs. Ric Flair WWF ****1/2 TLC 2/19/06 Undertaker vs. Kurt Angle WWF *** 3/24/06 Finlay vs. Rey Mysterio Jr WWF **** 3/31/06 Blood Generation vs. Do Fixer ROH ***1/4 4/1/06 Low Ki vs. Necro Butcher IWA-MS ***3/4 4/7/06 Randy Orton vs. Rey Mysterio Jr WWF ****1/4 4/22/06 CZW vs. ROH ****1/2 4/29/06 Bryan Danielson vs. Nigel McGuinness ROH ****1/2 5/8/06 Chris Benoit vs. William Regal WWF ***1/2 5/8/06 Homicide vs. Necro Butcher ROH ****1/4 5/21/06 Chris Benoit vs. Finlay WWF ****1/4 6/18/06 Samoa Joe vs. Scott Steiner TNA * 7/15/06 CZW vs. ROH ****1/2 Cage of Death 8/6/06 Samoa Joe vs. Bryan Danielson ROH ****1/2 8/12/06 Bryan Danielson vs. Nigel McGuinness ROH ****3/4 8/13/06 LAX vs. Styles/Daniels TNA *1/4 8/20/06 Ric Flair vs. Mick Foley WWF **** I Quit 9/2/06 Super Dragon vs. Necro Butcher PWG ***** 9/16/06 Bryan Danielson vs. KENTA ROH ***** 9/17/06 John Cena vs. Edge WWF ****1/4 TLC 9/24/06 LAX vs. Styles/Daniels TNA *1/2 Ultimate X 10/8/06 William Regal vs. Chris Benoit WWF ****1/2 11/4/06 Matt Sydal vs. KENTA ROH ****1/4 12/2/06 Bryan Danielson vs. KENTA NOAH ****1/2 12/10/06 Kurt Angle vs. Samoa Joe TNA ***3/4 12/17/06 Four Way Tag Team WWF **** Ladder 2007 1/27/07 John Cena vs. Umaga WWF ***** Last Man Standing 1/27/07 Hardy Boys vs. MNM WWF **1/2 4/13/07 Yuji Nagata vs. Hiroshi Tanahashi NJPW **** 5/13/07 Chris Harris vs. James Storm TNA ***3/4 5/20/07 John Cena vs. Great Khali WWF ****1/4 6/3/07 Hardy Boys vs. World’s Greatest Tag Team WWF ****1/4 Ladder 6/9/07 Bryan Danielson vs. Nigel McGuinness ROH ***** 6/17/07 King of the Mountain TNA *** 6/23/07 Bryan Danielson vs. KENTA ROH ***** 7/22/07 John Cena vs. Bobby Lashley WWF **3/4 7/27/07 Mistico vs. Dr. Wagner Jr. CMLL ***3/4 8/25/07 Takeshi Morishima vs. Bryan Danielson ROH ***** 9/15/07 Steen/Generico vs. Briscoe Brothers ROH ***** Ladder 10/18/07 Toshiaki Kawada vs. Kensuke Sasaki AJPW **3/4 10/28/07 Umaga vs. Triple H WWF ****1/4 Street Fight 10/28/07 Undertaker vs. Batista WWF ***1/4 12/29/07 Austin Aries vs. Nigel McGuinness ROH ****1/4 2008 1/5/08 Bryan Danielson vs. Low Ki PWG **** 1/8/08 Bucanero/Guerrero vs. Mistico/Wagner Jr. **3/4 2/11/08 Jeff Hardy vs. Shawn Michaels WWF ***3/4 10/13/08 Bryan Danielson vs. KENTA NOAH ****3/4 12/12/08 Mistico vs. Ultimo Guerrero *3/4 2009 11/13/09 Davey Richards vs. Austin Aries ROH DUD - ** 2010 2/23/10 Bryan Danielson vs. Chris Jericho WWF **1/2

I agree with the Orton/Foley match. I loved how Orton and Foley both bumped around like lunatics.

Holy crap. If you have that many, Lynch must have what...20x that?

Whereas it made me appreciate him more. Sure, he's done shitty things, but so has everyone else in the business. Although the whole "my fans", etc. was a bit grating. I disagree with many things Flair has said about Bret, but the "could be the president of his own fan club" bit was right on. Regardless, Bret is still probably my #2 all-time favorite. Considering he has come back to the WWF is a major reason why I feel the way I do about him.Vince & Shawn fucked him without mercy, which he swore he'd never forgive or come back...but low and behold, here he is. The Owen thing too. He thought Vince was responsible, so why would he ever come back? I think he is a sell out like all of the other war horses still limping around.

I thought that's what he said. Damn, that was callous of Lawler, although I presume it was screamed in his headset... I'm reading Hart's autobiography, and I can't help but think he is just a huge hypocrite, a liar, and a coward.

Cole was a face again, as expected, last night.

Watched this last night after seeing this post. Where to start... The opening sequence of Indy wrestling needs to be re-invented, as too many matches are following the same long and boring feeling out process. I liked the initial leg work done, but I hated the fact that Davey's selling was abysmal - I mean it was downright terrible. One of the worst no-selling performances I have ever seen after some extensive work had been done. The brainbuster on the ring apron was awesome though, a real holy shit moment. I disliked the avalanche release German suplex spot though, as it lead to nowhere. It didn't help that Aries ate Richards finishing move a few seconds later and still kicked out. By the end of the match I was relieved it was over - that is a horrible thing to feel after a match. Obviously I am not a fan of this match, but I like both guys in the match. For what good they did in this match, it was beaten down by the sheer amount of bad shit they did. *DUD*