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Crowd-shitting on the match and they worked a side headlock. It was a bad match, not just a match no one wanted to see. Trading finishers and killing all the moves doesn't make it a better match.

This match sucks. I'm glad the crowd is shitting on it.

Regardless of what Mike Johnson or Dave Meltzer says, regardless of Bray Wyatt having a match with Daniel Bryan on the card, I'm not going to believe that someone other than Bryan is winning until I see it. It just doesn't make any sense to me. So I'm still taking a, probably naive, wait-and-see approach. I think Bray beats Bryan & then Bryan enters the Rumble and wins.

I mean, hasn't Daniel Bryan been pretty much this over since the RAW after Wrestlemania when he lost in 18 seconds? His popularity hasn't really waned. He was mega-over during the Kane/Bryan hug it out stuff. He's been over ever sense. I just don't buy the "he got more over than they thought" stuff. Unless they're all deaf & blind. I mean, I'm not even a big Bryan fan and I think he looks odd in the main event, truthfully...but at some point, you gotta stop ignoring your paying audience. Orton Vs. Batista is going to be Goldberg Vs. Lesnar all over again...

This is hot garbage. If WWE really do that card...just wow. How out of touch are they!?

This is interesting to me, actually because now that you mention it, I think I gauge matches differently depending on which promotion they're from. I don't have one all-encompassing scale that I use for every match from every federation from every era, if that makes sense. In example, when I watch Puroresu, especially NJPW lately, I'm going off of ring work alone. I'm usually watching the match or a show in a vacuum, not following along week-to-week & keeping up with the angles. When watching WWE, the commentary can alter my enjoyment of a match. The payoff to an angle can too. The Japanese commentary, I don't understand. So it can't take me out of a match. Also, one thing that I've noticed from watching Lucha is that the referee matters a lot. It's hard for me to get into a match when the ref is really old & slow. Earl Hebner used to be really guilty of that. The super extreme slow count. Used to drive me nuts! That might make a good discussion, or is probably already a discussion somewhere if I used the search feature.

I liked the Powerslam. It's innovative & fun to me. I mean, in a worked business with Irish Whips, are we really going to talk about a move looking too fake or that it wouldn't hurt enough or whatever? As long as suspension of disbelief doesn't go out the window, I think we're OK. I guess it might for some but I don't think it's any worse than say, Bray Wyatt's Sister Abagail finish.

I feel the same way. I was pumped for the Rumble & last night RAW kind of killed my interest. With Daniel Bryan as over as he is, Brock Lesnar back, Batista back & I have to assume Undertaker coming back soon, I barely glanced up at the TV all night long. That's not good on the go-home show for the start of the Road to Wrestlemania. I don't care about John Cena or Randy Orton at all. I don't care about Alberto Del Rio or The Big Show. I'm tired of seeing Cody Rhodes & Goldust. I want something new to finally happen with The Shield. I should care more right now. There's only been three episodes of RAW so far in 2014, last night, last week & "old school" RAW. I think last night was the worst of the three, which seems backwards to me, since it's the show that should have been over-the-top selling the Rumble. Instead we got John Cena brawling with Randy Orton with Orton just getting into a car and leaving. Why would that make me want to watch the Rumble? Am I supposed to want to see Cena get his hands on Orton for the 1,000th time? Or watch Brock throw around Big Show's fat ass again?

I watched the Michael Elgin Vs. Davey Richards match when it happened. Admittedly, I got sucked up into the emotion & story of the match or at least the story that was in my head. I was BEGGING for Elgin to win because I hated Davey Richards SO much. Of course, I hated him because of insider bullshit I read online & was pretty much worked old school style. But yeah, I was buying into all the near falls & everything because I wanted Richards to just lose. It was almost like being a kid again...only not (if that makes sense). The moves, of course, were all ridiculous, none of them really meant shit & they were all killed. There wasn't much psychology, very little selling & the crowd was super smarky. The finish was also pretty anti-climactic. Upon re-watching, I hate it but I was definitely wrapped up in the moment when I saw it the first time, not knowing the outcome or anything. Maybe that was true with Dave too & he rated it as such? Sometimes it's fun to be able to just get wrapped up in wrestling like that still, despite all the stuff we've seen, read or whatever. Davey Richards' character? I can't tell you what it was. But to me, he was the heel because of stuff I read on various message forums & social media websites, about him blasting wrestling & saying he wanted to do "real fights" and all this other stuff. I can't remember if that was before or after all of the stuff with him screwing over promotions and stuff by taking the pay and leaving early. I just remember not liking Davey because I thought he was a business-exposing asshole that didn't "get" wrestling. If that was all planned, then bravo. I'm such a mark.

Yeah, I have no idea what's going on anymore. I never did, I guess. Shows what I know. It would be super lame if Sheamus returned and won it. :-/

I understand that concussions are a serious thing. I know all about the post-Benoit world & the NFL taking injuries more seriously & Junior Seau & all of that stuff. I'm just saying, it will have been about two weeks. If you think Bryan is missing the Rumble in a business that is still a carny business for a concussion, regardless of our more health conscientious society nowadays, you're being naive. Just like the Wellness Policy isn't stopping guys from taking steroids. That can just give Bryan a really high number, like 29. You could have The Undertaker return & win, maybe? Set-up Cena Vs. The Undertaker if Cena beats Orton for the title. That could work.

Yeah, you keep telling yourself that. Just like Mysterio pissed hot two months later, right?

Daniel Bryan. There's no fucking way a pro-wrestler is missing the Royal Rumble because of a concussion. Some bullshit Wellness Policy or not. Then Cena will beat Orton & Brock will beat Cena. Punk will get screwed by The Authority & 'Taker will come back. Wrestlemania 30: Brock Lesnar Vs. Daniel Bryan Triple H Vs. C.M. Punk John Cena Vs. The Undertaker Then the other guys, Batista, Orton, Del Rio, whomever they can mess around with Hogan & Big Show or whatever. No one really cares.

Warrior going is is cool by me. He was admittedly a big part of my childhood. Would love to see Rick Rude go in as well, he's my biggest omission I think. Jake Roberts & Randy Savage both also deserve it. I would like to see Adrian Adonis go in but I guess that's a long shot at this point. I would have assumed Honky Tonk Man burned his bridge but with Warrior going in, now you never know.

Doing this spot in front of what, a couple hundred fans? And it means less than a good clothesline in a match with psychology. Obviously never. Some people never will. I don't know what's worse, the workers doing that spot, the live fans clamoring for shit like that or the people in charge (assuming there's someone in the back, like a road agent at that Indy or something) allowing them to. How does that even come up? "Let's do a Spike Tombstone/Double Stomp through a table from the apron to the floor. That will get a pop, right!?" I thought the ROH Piledriver on the apron was bad...

Happy New Year, everyone.

You know that you're super protected top guys in WWE when they put you on Wednesday Main Event & you don't even get an entrance~!

Finally got around to watching William Regal Vs. Antonio Cesaro from NXT. It wasn't bad. I do think it was a little overrated online but they told a good story. The match was hurt by multiple commercial breaks & terrible commentary for sure. It was very slow, very plodding, a lot of technical work & had great psychology. The bridges & kip-ups were all really well done. I personally don't feel like it's worth going out of your way to seek out, in all honesty. However, if you're a fan of both guys, you'll probably dig it. It is what you expect those two guys to do together.

I thought Batista was really good when he left, truthfully. He got a lot better. His heel work was a lot of fun. I liked his feud with John Cena a lot.

Cena Vs. Triple H, unfortunately. Setting up Wrestlemania 30 being potentially the most lack-luster (boring) card in a long time. Ok, where does Punk go then? It would probably be Punk Vs. Bryan. The "workrate" match. Throw is maybe Cody Vs. Dustin, a Diva match, a Tag match, some unfunny backstage comedy skits featuring old stars & hype videos, that would be close to the whole four hours. They could do Wyatts Vs. Shield, where Reigns finally turns on Shield & goes solo but I don't think they'll hold out that long, so Reigns might already be solo & having a big match himself.

Cena Vs. Triple H, unfortunately. Setting up Wrestlemania 30 being potentially the most lack-luster (boring) card in a long time. I'm not terribly sour on Batista coming back, or even winning the Rumble...but what does it do for WWE? Shouldn't they worry about the people that will be there the day after Wrestlemania EVENTUALLY? I mean, you can't keep bringing back Rock, Brock, Taker, Triple H, Batista, HBK, Jericho forever... Throw in the other boring guys that currently get a ton of TV time, like Miz, ADR, Sandow, Big Show, Axel...I'm not sure I'll care about Wrestlemania at all. Anymore I honestly enjoy the RAW after 'Mania & the super smarky crowd more than 'Mania itself.

Isn't the purpose of a cage match to keep the two wrestlers within the cage while keeping other wrestlers out? When did that stop being true? I remember the first Hell in a Cell & they did spots outside the cage & Kane ripped the door off. I know stuff happened many years before that though. Maybe I'm misremembering & the cage has always sucked at what it was supposed to do? Heh. Muraco/Snuka in the cage didn't feature leaving the cage or outside interference, right? What about Magnum/Tully? Man, my memory is really getting bad the older I get.

Lee doesn't speak with a horrible southern accent, hate gay people (the GAY community!?) & her tattoo is easily hidden, not taking up the entire side of her torso. They're both decent bumpers. Also for whatever it's worth (I have no idea if it even matters or if WWE cares) but Lee has 1.2 million Twitter followers. I think she's ahead in the game. Plus Styles is already 36, what does he bring to the table to WWE that they can't get from calling someone up from NXT that is a decade younger? Some flippy spots? Quoting some bible verses? I see absolutely zero in AJ Styles at this point in the game. Had he gotten into developmental a few years back, maybe. I'm sort of out of the loop as it pertains to Indy guys though. I also think the Young Bucks are dreadful & the biggest star in ROH is Maria. I guess I just want different stuff from my wrestling. I know Styles has a following. Styles could be good if WWE went out of their way to try to mask his weaknesses. He needs gear that covers his tattoo, he needs to never talk...half his spots WWE will never let him do. I actually think an NXT stint could do him well. Developmental, for the bad rap it gets, did wonders for a guy like Tyler Black. So, I guess to answer the thread title, I don't wanna see it & I don't think I ever will. I think it's too late in the game for Styles & he doesn't really have name value or appeal to make up for having to start over from scratch.

Does AJ Styles do anything as well as AJ Lee?