JerryvonKramer

Just to say that, despite my personal hatred for him, Shawn is definitely gonna rank for me, and AJ still has every chance of ranking too. I can see not being high on Jericho as a matter of indifference, but I was wondering more where "biggest stretch ever to call him a great worker" was coming from. He's a weird case in a way, I mean I don't have any strong feelings about him at all, but if someone put him at 40 or 60 or at 89, he wouldn't look out of place, and if someone didn't rank him at all, it would scarcely feel like it matters. The Ted / Hase comparison comes less from working style and more from the fact that both of those guys, like Jericho, had a lot of tools at their disposal, could work face or heel, could effectively slot into a main event or cycle down to work an upper midcard or tag feud, or even a match in the midcard. They were dependable and charismatic workers who would give you a solid and sometimes even great performance no matter the opponent or match. And Jericho seems like a similar guy for his generation. And as I said, this is with giving it no real thought. Szakacs reference just comes from the fact that he's one guy I'm certain you are high on. I don't know where the testiness of the tone has come from, because I had nothing of the sort in mind when I asked. Just genuinely want to know why you're so down on him. Incidentally I thought he truly sucked in the match last night, and I don't think Ted or Hase ever sucked like that in a match.

In other news I'm turning this Edge and Christian shit off and going to sleep.

Agree, I think this match was better than Rumble 15, which I had at 4.5. Hated the Cena vs Rollins finish spam. Would still have WM2015 above this, but three great matches from Brock.

So insulting to call HHH "possibly the greatest of all time" when Ric Flair is in the building. I thought the show was good. Cut everything from after Charlotte match to just before main event and it was a hot show.

My mistake Rumble 15 was Seth

I'd go as high as ****3/4, that good.

Another awesome match involving Brock and Roman, the third one.

This match is telling a great story

Ambrose's selling is pretty good here

Is Dean Ambrose's gimmick "man from the 90s"?

You don't watch RAW. Okay, it feels like watching RAW ten tears ago.

That award is going to HHH, obviously

It feels like watching RAW

I honestly thought the entire segment sucked. Christian also came across like he was embarrassed to be there.

Couldn't this have happened on RAW or something? There's Sheamus doing the annoying WWE talk pause talk intonation.

JBL busting out the AJPW knowledge.

OJ said its a bigger stretch than plastic man could manage to call Jericho a great worker and all I did was ask him to explain himself and what he really looks for in a great worker. It's been almost two years and it's still not entirely clear so I thought I'd ask.

I like the methodical Harley Race pace. Charlotte can really work on her basics working like this. It's smart booking.

Glad to see someone actually prepared to be a proper heel.

-3000/10 for this segment, fucking hell. Woeful.

Ryback seems like the most over guy on this show so far.

Those morons will say that no matter what till the end of time.

I don't care about his alignment it's the fact he used the word on his handle. At least pretend kayfabe is a thing.

Small thing but I hate that talk pause talk delivery and intonation that is so prevalent in modern WWE. Kane did it massively just now. Here's a line Pause And here's my next line. It's not Harold Pinter ffs, it's wrestling, just talk. That intonation is one of many things that makes watching this stuff a chore.

I enjoyed that for what it was.