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I'm wondering whether Bryan-Trips goes to a draw of some sorts and they both are inserted I to the main event. Bryan wins and we get Bryan-Trips at Extreme Rules? Also that way you have to wait even longer for a Daniel win on the night...

Managed to get the network working in the UK, looks amazing, don't know where to start. Need to get a pimp match thread going if one hasn't been started already....

I keep myself to myself when it comes to how much I watch. My girlfriend and my dad knows how much I watch as they see me watching it or how much I've Sky Plused, plus my dad was a huge WOS fan in the 70s and 80s. Plus a shit load of DVDs come though the door, he's always signing for them. As for friends, I don't mention it, more because it doesn't come up, and I can put it down to myself being a causal fan watching on Sky Sports in passing, rather than someone sitting there watching 1987 Memphis. Funny story is a friend of mine came over and saw my dupe out and loads of DVDs on the side and asked what I was doing, I explained, he seemed pretty cool with it, all things considering he is a police officer. My dad recently brought it up in a group discussion at the pub with some causal fans, who were amazed I had a copy of 2000 Royal Rumble and could easily get hold of a copy of Summerslam 1994. I showed them a PDF of my DVD collection, I honestly believe they didn't realise so much was available when it came to tv footage etc. I explained I had some Mid Atlantic from 1978 and 32 discs of Midnight Express matches and they were more concerned I had Goldberg winning the title on Nitro on DVD. So to answer the question, I don't hide it, it's just less effort explaining why the "Bill and Buddy Show" is better than last weeks Miz TV with Kofi Kingston, because why would it be? Is a football match from 1987 ever going to match up to City-Barca this week? I doubt it? But Older Pompey fans will tell me that winning the old division 2 was better than Milan at Fratton Park. "What really that commentator Jerry Lawler is one of your favourites?" Or "Ric Flair was rubbish when he was in WWF when we were younger". Where do I go with that? I'm going to sound like I'm lying of being smug if I reply with anything? I think someone mentioned earlier, too causal fans it's a lot harder explaining why you think something is better without looking like a know it all or snotty about it, so I just don't get into a conversation about it. It's always nice to see on facebook when something wrestling related gets mentioned, and I recently saw that my best friend at middle school brother is actually a pro wrestler here in the uk under the name Chuck Cryus, especially as I don't remember him showing much of an interest in wrestling due to them not having sky when we were younger.

There was a History Lesson thread on DVDVR board for the AWA set that Khawk did, could we get it posted here?

Haven't got round to watching the entire set yet just bits and pieces, and to be honest not too hot on AWA as a whole, but I have to say I'm surprised only one pre 1985 match is in the top ten when considered AWA had passed it's peak in terms of popularity and star power, but it seems 86-88 churned out classic after classic. This maybe no surprise so someone who follows AWA closely, but I will look forward to viewing the set.

I work in London so I'll be just coming across the river to the show on Saturday night so staying up for the weekend isn't needed for me, the Friday show I won't be able to go to as I'm working late, but seriously considering just popping along after work.

I'm actually really tempted by the RevPro show this weekend in Bethnal Green, got some top names on the bill, not bad for 20 quid. Can honestly say I'm not clued up on the current British product, would it be worth strolling along too? Anyone else going?

Eaton and Flair also have a good one in 89. There were two matches from late 89 early 90 that were very good intact before Flairs heel turn....

Should definitely create a new topic for FM/CM, didnt realise people across the pond played it also. I could bang on about it for hours. This season version has been the most successful for me, turned Pompey into European giants in ten years, with a wonderful South American influenced team. Woking into the Championship Play Off final only to lose to Middlesborough on pens, and trust me, Woking have no money at conference level let alone Champioship. My most recent venture is in Holland, two seasons in and my Den Haag team just win the league with a 90% Dutch team under the age of 22. I wonder where the summer has gone scouting across the world, trying to pick up youngesters for no money.

Just too add to the correct name changes, there was also, WCW Saturday and Sunday editions. I also have some NWA Houston TV shows which was a JCP show...

I was watching a JCP show from 1985 the other day, and on the end of the DVD was was a Tommy Rich versus either Fire/Flame/Torch. It was in an arena and wasn't a studio taped match as I would expect from a southern terrority. The crowd was hotter than hot. Now I've picked some discs up from Khawk in a trade before, but to be honest where do I start? What matches, angles, years? Should I look at? It's a promotion that doesn't get much coverage?

If their European tours were infrequent or non-existent before the 91 and 92 tours, I would hesitate to give them much credit...it would have been more the fans being attracted to the event more than the individuals, getting into "the WWF experience" as a whole, anxious to see "The #1 wrestling group!!!" (or insert whatever other WWF hype they spread from 83-present here). If Europe was a more regular stop in the years preceding it, then that might be a different story. I wouldnt say the Road Warriors were a huge draw in the UK, more the product itself as stated. There are a few factors in the increase on UK gates, Europe maybe different as Italy and France were visited by the WWF before WWF UK debut in 1989. The one key factor is the rise in Sky subscriptions between 1989 to August 1992, when WWF hit its peak (Although being a young teenager in the late 1990s I would say it was bigger in this country then). When Sky was launch its no secret that WWF programming was one of the flag ship shows which lead to the October 1989 TV special. WWF didn't tour the UK (I far as I can see) until April 1991, that's 18 months in which time Sky subscriptions in the UK without a doubt grew, there was definitely alot more merchandise on the shelfs (Sticker Books/VHS/Toys) also. Whether tactically done or not, the UK fan base which was growing and growing were waiting for the "WWF Experience" were made to wait for 18 months the Royal Albert Hall show before they saw a show again, while WWF programming was being aired throughout the week. UK rampage came later that year and early the following into 1992. Now we move onto the summer of 1992. The one major factor in WWF success in the UK has to be the increase in viewers during the summer of 1992, where did these viewers come from, they came from the increase of subscriptions from Sky due to its new carrot, live football. In the summer of 1992 Sky won the rights to show the "New" Premier League, which would of lead to more and more households subscripting to Sky to watch live football, in turn more and more people viewing WWF wrestling which at this time was on 4 times a week, (Superstars, Challenge, All American and Prime Time) which means it was probably the most at the time of any programme was on Sky. UK viewing figures would of gone though the roof almost instantly leading to the decision to run Wembley Stadium. We're the Road Warriors a big factor in the UK drawing, possibly? I had a pair of LOD trainers, but overall the explosion of the WWF in the UK in the early 1990s draws mainly from the Sky viewership increase. It was perfectly placed on the Sky One schedule, it came after kids TV on Saturday mornings and it was the programme on before amazingly popular Simpsons on Sunday evenings, simply but genius. I wish I could find the subscription figures for the early 1990s for Sky to back up my argument, but I'm sure someone like John Lister could back this up an even build upon it...

Wrestlemania 3 aired on Channel 4 I believe....

I'm no wrestling historian by any means nor am I fully educated on the 80s wrestling scene but I can't help think that promotions that decided too stand alone and go national ultimately fell over because... A) the creative peak had passed? And only the people in those towns saw it. So when it is rehashed for a national audience the fans you rely on to fill your houses have already seen it before. WCCW and Mid South definitely fall into this, maybe more territories. B ) lack of real star power post 1984 available to draw outside of JCP and WWF and obviously Memphis had Lawler and Dundee? C) like someone mentioned before, travel is a huge issue. Memphis stayed within the area they knew and came though the expansion of JCP and WWF harmed but still intact. I'm sure the oil played a huge part but can't help think the 3 thing listed above are as big if not bigger?

Was that six-man on the disc along with the promo, or was it on one of the discs from the first Memphis bulk? Or was it on a different disc completely? Because I got the discs from the Memphis bulks yesterday and that tag just sounds out-of-this-world fun. I got it from a disc i got in a trade with Khawk, it's listed as "Rare and Unlisted Memphis and ICW from PM Film", its only the first two falls, but its still a great little match..

This is the most interesting and informative thread I think I've ever read, top work JDW and KrisZ...

I need to see a handheld of a 15 year old Rock and Downtown Bruno at a bar...

You could start with this one http://prowrestlingonly.com/index.php?showtopic=11633 Thanks man... It's a massive thread with massive data dumps in it. Carve out some time for it rather than heading over when you only have 10 minutes. John I'm on page 4 and slowing working it. Couldn't possibly do it in one sitting, but thanks for the link

You could start with this one http://prowrestlingonly.com/index.php?showtopic=11633 Thanks man...