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That was a legit sellout though, stro's point is about being able to run a set up were a big attendance (40k+) looks impressive regardless if half the tickets weren't sold....like WWE did at last year's Summerslam.

For last year's Summerslam? They announced 48k and according to the Observer the real attendance was close to 38k.

Masterful carny move by both of them. Punk has the narrative leverage of wanting to make things work and do business. Jericho has established himself as the locker room leader/representative and not only has the ability to change the narrative around Punk's return (or be seen as the one who "protected the locker room" from Phil) but also keep leaching off people that are over and the fans want to see to extend his relevancy as a performer

SRS with the counter This is better than Shams vs Woj.

Yeah, it's on AEW to run a set up were 40-45k looks impressive. That a lot of people in one place regardless.

We don't know. Last thing discussed was both Tony and Danielson talking about it in interviews in the context of the Revolution match against MFJ, both saying it would be difficult to let him do it if Danielson was AEW champion. Bryan did say that if he got Tony's permissions he would like to do it with other AEW wrestlers (Claudio, Mox and Eddie) so they could have a fun tour.

My guess is that TK checked with Gedo and New Japan to see if the Wembley show clashed with the last day of the G-1 (I know last year it ended almost 2 weeks before the end of August). If Danielson works the G-1 and gets a W over the champ he could also challenge for the belt at All In, which would feel pretty big too in the case Okada is not available.

You are not wrong but I feel Punk facing The Elite should be the n°1 program on a card, not a cool add-on for a huge show. And in that scenario, I feel that for Wembley, that 6 man tag should have legit stakes (final encounter in a gimmick match) and not just the novelty of Punk coming back. I could be wrong though, like I said, I'm lost on how much impact that novelty has.

I'm honestly lost on the impact that 6-man tag could have on such a huge show. I get that it's the match that puts the 6 people that have been more vocal or "exposed" about not liking each other but August is a looong way away, and a simple tag match doesn't seem big enough for me for Wembley. And a bunch of worked shoot promos aren't gonna help build it up. If it's a the final/grudge match between between both sides and we get a proper build of matches before, I can buy into it making a difference but if it's the first encounter I don't know, it kinda feels like a match with not a lot of stakes besides backstage bullshit, which I could see as a selling point for an arena show (like All Out or Grand Slam 3 in Arthur Ashe), but not a huge stadium. For Wembley I see Punk vs Omega (or even Hangman or vs MJF for the belt) and FTR vs Bucks in a title match as better suited for that kind of show.

How long is the ROH show? 9 matches seems like waaaaaay too much for a random "TV" episode.

I remember someone here posted they wanted Punk to get ahead of the rumor mill and put the pressure on The Elite, well here you go

It's another All Together show (in Sumo Hall). Hopefully they learned from the latests NJPW/NOAH shows and book matches that are actually compelling.

If All Out Is shortly after, then All In gotta have more interpromotional stuff and I guess non wrestling stuff? I'd love for the UK brothers in here to enlighten us as to what would the show need to have to sell so many tickets.

Can Anthony Joshua and Tyson Fury have a 3 round fight or something? Lol

I mean, they don't have to sell 90k tickets and sell out Wembley. But even getting 50k seems like a monumental task. I hope they are able to pull it off.

Is Tony creating AEW: UK?

I also wonder if Endeavor keeps most of the WWE people that are able to make the roster drink the company's kool-aid like they have for so many years. Even when morale is down, there's always been a "we are family, what we do is special/important so hang in there" narrative that seems to keep things afloat no matter what. If this new parent company makes things even more corporate and soulless -and gets rid of some redundant, but "important" roles in WWE- will the wrestlers still believe they can/should take whatever bullshit comes their way because they "bring smiles to people's faces"?

He got THREE clean PPV wins over Rollins. The last one with a torn pec and a main event of a PLE. And all of that was with Vince as head of creative. By that time people thought he was the one to beat Roman because he was treated like a big returning star and was organically over as a pure babyface. Not a lot of people were doubting Cody was probably the one to dethrone Roman back in May-June 2022.

Ae they doing the tournament this year? That was one of 2022's biggest disappointments to me. Ended up being a horrible tourney no one gave a single fuck about and had two heels winning and immediately acting like babyfaces when they got their belts. I hope if TK does decided to run it back he does it with blocks or a round robin to lead up toe the Finals (or semis + Finals).

Judging by Ari/Endeavor's experience with horrible behavior, they'll probably pay any victim (and/or just shut them up) before they speak up.

Some interesting tidbits from WOR: -Vince and Nick Khan signed new contracts not long ago. Vince's has important language in case he's fired (making it almost impossible for him to get canned). -Dave said all the allegations against Vince have been taken care of, with all the accusers getting paid. "There's nobody else that's gonna come out of the woodwork because that's what the (Board) investigation was all about" was a direct quote from Meltzer.

I think Bubba is talking about Okada vs Naito in 2018, when Naito had already went through 24-30 months of a very hot "rebellious" heel run and got the title shot 1 year later than he should've gotten it. Naito won the G-1 and everyone was certain he would win at WK...but he lost, Okada got his historic title reign and ended up losing to Omega. The Naito win took 2 more years and three other people got the IWGP title before him in that time. When he won in 2020 it was a feel good moment but it felt too late, as by point Ibushi was the one that was the hottest in the promotion (and it took 1 more year for him to get the belt). The happy accident of Naito being squandered by Gedo was Kenny Omega becoming a massive draw. Maybe Sami is the Kenny in this Reigns/Cody analogy?

Jay White would make no sense but I can't help but think it's him when the word "mystery partner" shows up.

From Cokeboy to Vincente Maldonado, what a turnaround.

Holy shit LMAO at Vince