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AJ Styles has by for the best punches. AJ fuck yeah looking like money. AJ vs Brock is my current dream match but all of the sudden there is so many with Nak in and so over

AJ really needs Tobe featured like HBK 1995 all this year to build him to a title win next year . He can do it all MITB ladder and Chamber(except work old man Jericho which is so weird) OK damn hold up Cesaro is like hell over fast.

Damn I've never seen enzo and Cass before as my nXt viewing is small but these guys are great , damn I have really grown to love New Day these guys are money.

Did AJ really job

Well I got to bow out and wait for stuff online now . Damn those cheeks on Lana! Can I still turn in a Top 100 list?

Ha wow I like watching total divas on E but damn they still suck. Move no sell move no sell. Davey Richards style

And why does everyone drone on and on about Reigns getting boo'd as the Top Face? Cena has been in that spot for a decade and everything is doing fine. Roman had badass matches and looks like a millions bucks and gets boo'd just like Cena. It's going to be fine. I prefer him on top to Daniel Bryan(AJ is here now, who needs Danielson?)

Holy fucking shit! I watched 5 minutes of RAW on DVR and saw H won the belt and marked out and had to watch the Rumble! But AJ STYLES are you kidding me!!! Dreams do come true, back to match now to see him GO!!! EDIT: holy shit yeah I've seen him wrestle just a couple months back and he ruled still, but just in that first exchange he proved he not only still has "It", but he's just as good as his 2005 Glory Year. (Get this Breeze guy out of my screen! What is he like a Shannon Moore tribute ? Money gimmick yeah right ) Tell me AJ is at least doing a Brock deal? AJ vs Brock my dream match please? Or AJ vs HHH for the belt? Yeah I know Reigns is the story but no buys.

Wow so I watched the first part of Raw, and hadnt seen any current WWE since the dissapointing HIAC and saw that Sheamus had best Reigns at TLC. And even worse Sheamus was champ. And tuned out. And then I read the last post on here and find out Roman is champion! that's awesome and gives me hope for Reigns-Lesnar II at Mania. Reigns-Lesnar and Taker-Cena and I'm sold on Mania. And if Austin actually wrestles, the I'll be excited for the first time since WM 26 (hey don't blame me, I thought Bret was going to surprise everybody and be awesome again like Shawn at SummerSlam 2002)

So I've been watching a ton of All Japan and I am now 100% of the belief that Misawa is #1. Also is it weird to think Misawa-Akiyama is by far the best series? And 02.27.00 is the best native vs. native AJPW match?

Wow so I try really hard to not make gay jokes or insults because for 1 I was pretty sure one Admin was gay, and 2 because it's wrong I don't wanna perpetuate that(and I have been tested immensely this week too believe me). And thats how I get cut up for not liking an overrated match, as gay. And that's the whole thing when you make fun of someone calling them gay, then you kinda make a joke of some people lives. Maybe I'm more progressive on this issue than women. But thank you Jimmy for laying down exactly which opinions are factual. . Wasn't a gay joke. You implied the only reason people like the Sasha match is due to attraction to her. That comment was just a reversal of that. The fact you have to try to not do gay jokes is not progressive, but pathetic. By the way, being a sexist does not make you progressive. God damn what world did you grow up in? Gay as a put down was normal for my generation growing up untill recently. And now I try not to because it was ingrained in me, in sports and shit. And really he says I want to fuck Roman and Brock that wss meant as insulting but it doesn't hurt me. Well maybe it does actually, and then you gotta pile on top saying I'm pathetic for trying to change? And you're perfect morally I bet without trying. Any non watcher of wrestling that saw that on TV would still think it was SEX and make similar judgments, especially women themselves would call them skanks out of jealousy or whatever. Why am I even talking about this, match was average at best with dudes, girls or Bruce Jenners wrestling. Wow. So when someone watches Bayley-Sasha they think of sex, but watching Roman-Brock they do not? Also I may gay jokes when I was a kid, now I am an adult and have grown up and realize how insanely stupid it is. Drop the gay thing it was an insult saying I wanted to fuck the guys, duh. I don't care he dropped to that and I try not to because i refrain from personal attacks on here because I already have different favorites and why would I want enemies but looks like it's too late. Yes. Because forever it was about who was the hottest became the big babyface generally: Sable then Lita then Trish and they were often in bra and panties matches and well there has only been only 'good girl' in WWE (Elizabeth) that I remember. You know one that is a role model.

Wow so I try really hard to not make gay jokes or insults because for 1 I was pretty sure one Admin was gay, and 2 because it's wrong I don't wanna perpetuate that(and I have been tested immensely this week too believe me). And thats how I get cut up for not liking an overrated match, as gay. And that's the whole thing when you make fun of someone calling them gay, then you kinda make a joke of some people lives. Maybe I'm more progressive on this issue than women. But thank you Jimmy for laying down exactly which opinions are factual. . Wasn't a gay joke. You implied the only reason people like the Sasha match is due to attraction to her. That comment was just a reversal of that. The fact you have to try to not do gay jokes is not progressive, but pathetic. By the way, being a sexist does not make you progressive. God damn what world did you grow up in? Gay as a put down was normal for my generation growing up untill recently. And now I try not to because it was ingrained in me, in sports and shit. And really he says I want to fuck Roman and Brock that wss meant as insulting but it doesn't hurt me. Well maybe it does actually, and then you gotta pile on top saying I'm pathetic for trying to change? And you're perfect morally I bet without trying. Any non watcher of wrestling that saw that on TV would still think it was SEX and make similar judgments, especially women themselves would call them skanks out of jealousy or whatever. Why am I even talking about this, match was average at best with dudes, girls or Bruce Jenners wrestling. Wow. So when someone watches Bayley-Sasha they think of sex, but watching Roman-Brock they do not? Also I may gay jokes when I was a kid, now I am an adult and have grown up and realize how insanely stupid it is. Drop the gay thing it was an insult saying I wanted to fuck the guys, duh. I don't care he dropped to that and I try not to because i refrain from personal attacks on here because I already have different favorites and why would I want enemies but looks like it's too late. Yes. Because forever it was about who was the hottest became the big babyface generally: Sable then Lita then Trish and they were often in bra and panties matches and well there has only been only 'good girl' in WWE (Elizabeth) that I remember. You know one that is a role model.

Uh Misawa?

Wow so I try really hard to not make gay jokes or insults because for 1 I was pretty sure one Admin was gay, and 2 because it's wrong I don't wanna perpetuate that(and I have been tested immensely this week too believe me). And thats how I get cut up for not liking an overrated match, as gay. And that's the whole thing when you make fun of someone calling them gay, then you kinda make a joke of some people lives. Maybe I'm more progressive on this issue than women. But thank you Jimmy for laying down exactly which opinions are factual. . Wasn't a gay joke. You implied the only reason people like the Sasha match is due to attraction to her. That comment was just a reversal of that. The fact you have to try to not do gay jokes is not progressive, but pathetic. By the way, being a sexist does not make you progressive. God damn what world did you grow up in? Gay as a put down was normal for my generation growing up untill recently. And now I try not to because it was ingrained in me, in sports and shit. And really he says I want to fuck Roman and Brock that wss meant as insulting but it doesn't hurt me. Well maybe it does actually, and then you gotta pile on top saying I'm pathetic for trying to change? And you're perfect morally I bet without trying. Any non watcher of wrestling that saw that on TV would still think it was SEX and make similar judgments, especially women themselves would call them skanks out of jealousy or whatever. Why am I even talking about this, match was average at best with dudes, girls or Bruce Jenners wrestling.

Wow so I try really hard to not make gay jokes or insults because for 1 I was pretty sure one Admin was gay, and 2 because it's wrong I don't wanna perpetuate that(and I have been tested immensely this week too believe me). And thats how I get cut up for not liking an overrated match, as gay. And that's the whole thing when you make fun of someone calling them gay, then you kinda make a joke of some people lives. Maybe I'm more progressive on this issue than women. But thank you Jimmy for laying down exactly which opinions are factual. .

Is it mysoginistic to comment on their looks now damn. I'm sure that they are super serious athletes and I'll show them proper respect from now on Jimmy. EDIT: I'm sorry that sounded pretty dickish. I honestly have not watched a women's match since like Sable-Trish 2003 untill this one and I understand they aren't doing the Bra and Panties type stuff anymore. I will give them credit on their craft improving but not at the level of of Lesnar.

I'll take that as you are in agreement.

Many narcotics I can't name+me posting sometimes turns out weird. Go figure. 1) I'm into bodybuilding so when I mean " bigger" than Austin I just meant he's way more shredded. Way bigger. Austins all legs. 2) In 2005 after the bad ass I Quit match w/ JBL (check out Cena's gory face, we will never see that again), Cena started flopping around the ring like Bluechipper Rocky Maivia babyface and I haaaate that. I think his work suffered for many years. Check out the Cena-Angle No Mercy 03 vs. Cena-Angle Unforgiven 05 and its night and day. Cena is all focused on hurting Angle with the awesome Turnbuckle Powerbomb, Apron DDT etc and well just incorporating a cool move set into his "street Brawler" gimmick. But in 05 he just seems to be trying so hard to get babyface heat and the matches sucked. But ever since 2011 and the CM Punk feud he's really put both together plus become the veteran ace and Living Legend type all while being better than ever. I do like a lot of matches from 05-11 though don't get me wrong: vs. Batista WM26, vs. Michaels WM23 but strangely did not like the Umaga series like I figured I would. I think I've made a similar post to this lol. But basically I have him at #15 based on half of his career mostly.

Yeah that's kind of a stretch if anyone had taken that from my comment. It's just a plain old like/dislike thing. So after reading that comment I went and tried to watch it. Well maybe this is sexist or whatever but I don't enjoy watching women fight, and maybe I'm old school for that. Is part of the appeal that guys are attracted to the girls because that's what I was thinking when I first started watching...that most likely people were into this Bayley girl for having the pony tail and being all girlish? I doubt it's Banks because she looks lik a Vegas stripper. That's fine if that's the appeal. She looks like every other chick on the softball team I hooked up with(the other half was with eachother), and that's not a bad thing I dated one. I mean it starts off ok but I don't have any draw to finish it. I don't see how this compares to Reigns fighting for his life against the most Monster heel Lesnar, best since Vader and Andre? And Lesnar laying a beating Kobashi or Misawa would veto...in the Mania main event for the Undisputed WHC? The perfect stage for a special violent fight like none before. Also yeah it's like I don't like seeing girls take bumps and be hurt that's not fun so I turned it off. And if it's the looks....damn that Paige chick smashes on these two, she's worth watching just to look at.

Wow I quoted a bunch of shit with no reply. What an idiot. Am working on that lol

But Lesnar-Reigns was as good as air gets to me. Lesnar is favorite US wrestler of all time, and Reigns still had something if he can come out of the horrible Sheamus deal. God I hope he beats him before Mania, and we get Reigns© v. Lesnar II at Mania!

I honestly don't even know who the two women are? I think Reigns-Lesnar should be compared with Cena-Rollins Summerslam, Taker-Brock Summerslam, Cena-Owens I, and Cena-Cesaro 07.06.15 RAW match. Those are MOTYC. But hey I don't like women's wrestling. And nXt did impress the hell out of me with Zayn-Neville and Zayn-Owens(although this feud I've always loved).

To be fair, that's more a problem with the modern televised American wrestling's finisher-centric style in general than anything wrong with Cena specifically. Practically every guy in the WWE has some "patented maneuvers" which never win the damn match. Why does anyone ever hit any move which isn't their finisher and then try for an inevitably-unsuccessful pinfall? Of course the real reason is "because we've gotta do SOMETHING to kill time and get our shit in before going home". But it's long been a glaring psychological weak spot in WWE Style that the wrestlers are going for ludicrously unlikely pin attempts after hitting non-finisher offense. The best workers can get around that kind of thing (ever notice how rarely Stone Cold actually tried to pin his opponent during his matches, until the final stretch?) but it hurts most guys when the audience is palpably underwhelmed when someone's trying to get a pinfall after hitting a clothesline or bodyslam or some damn thing like that. Ironically, I think this is partly to blame for the WWE's much more workrate-friendly booking in recent years. Back when half the matches routinely had non-clean-pinfall finishes, the crowd tended to be more on their toes because you never knew when the sudden DQ or countout or feet-on-the-ropes, handful-of-tights rollup might end the match without warning. A little like All Japan did back in the 90s, the current WWE has focused so heavily on mostly-clean finishes and Exciting Final Acts in their matches that the audience can often mentally check out of a match (beyond the token Pavlovian popping for particularly big moves or beloved signature spots) until they start trying to hit their finishers. Of course, unlike All Japan, the WWE doesn't have the saving grace of everyone on the roster having half-a-dozen different legit finishers, which leads to its rather video-game-ish psychology of "hit your One Big Move and win". According to their billed heights and weights, John is one inch shorter and one pound lighter than Steve. Personally, I think they look just about identically-sized: But I'd say the real problem is that Cena's just way too much of a bulky bodybuilder and doesn't have nearly enough catlike grace to pull the move off successfully. I've seem him hit it nice just once, on Rusev at Wrestlemania, but otherwise it often has that "Johnny Ace trying to hit the Ace Crusher and looking like he just bumped into his opponent and they both fell down in a heap" sort of appearance to it. Oh gimme a hell yeah. To this day, I've never met a single person who's been able to explain the "Y2Cheap" joke to me. What the hell is that even supposed to mean? It reeks of being one of those backstage ribs that they obnoxiously insisted on putting it in front of the camera, making all the boys laugh their ass off while the fans just stare in confused silence. The match itself was a fine give-and-take brawl (Trips gave Cena way more of the match than he gave Batista the previous year, when it would've made more sense for HHH to be taking more of an ass-whipping) but I don't agree with the finish. That was a straight-up Klique "Job" all the way, officially putting the other guy over while subconsciously making him look like shit. Cena had barely even started using the STF as a finisher, and Trips does such an abrupt tap-out that you can actually see the fans at ringside reacting in what-the-hell-bro disbelief when HHH submits so quickly. It lets Triple H brag forever "hey, I couldn't have put the guy over ANY harder than I did!" while sabotaging the drama of the finish. Compare it to how Trips fought and clawed and struggled to get out of Benoit's crossface two years prior, ramping up the tension, before finally succumbing to the inevitable and admitting defeat. By giving Cena such a perfunctory "submission victory" without building up to a climactic finale, Triple H made damn sure that everyone's most vividly positive memory from that match was him teasing a DX reunion with the crotch-chop.

#1 thing: I do not like the Springboard Stunner for John Cena. John is a big ass dude, much bigger than Austin was. I am totally cool with Cena using The 'Stunner' as a secondary finisher but it should be given to Dean Ambrose by Austin himself(Or to Punk at Wrestlemania in Dallas next year, in my dreams but still possible! That's my long shot predicition) But I do like how he's included the Ligerbomb, the Code Red is cool once in a while. If he could master the Frankensteiner, that would rule. But I think he would have had to try that back in 2002 for it to be like Scotts or Furnas'. I like the Magnum TA belly 2 belly suplex, definitely love the Emerald Flowsion as a secondary finisher if he could make that stick, because it looks awesome and he's so strong that he could hit it on say, The Undertaker next year at Mania(another hopeful Mania predicition, please don't waste Taker & Cena on Wyatt or Rusev again this year! This past year was like having Hogan(Cena) vs. Haku(I wish Rusev could be traded out for 1989 Haku) and Undertaker vs Jim Neidhart(Wyatt, great tag/trios wrestler, not interesting as a singles). Just for kicks I'd like to see Cena do the 'YOLO' Tope Suicida again like he did to Punk in 2012. I literally just watched Cena/Owens I from EChamber and it's not finisher trading at all. Owens hits The Pop Up Powerbomb early for a 2 count, but this is the #1 wrestler in the world, the #1 guy since the end of 'Attitude'(Mania 17) and the beginning of 'Ruthless Agression' (2002) (I'd put Brock and Taker above him as far as 'greatness' and Rey, Eddy & Benoit based on skill but that's my list) and the #2 World champion of all time. So it should take more than one finisher on Cena unless it's a Vader over Inoki/Vader over Sting kinda of situation. Owens kicks out of 1 AA and reached the ropes on the STF to prove he is a badass veteran from beyond 'The Universe'. At another point Cena flies over another Powerbomb attempt. Owens hits a sick Super Fishermans Buster and swanton bomb for 2 before Cena comes back with a big Lariat and then gets popped up going for another into the Power bomb. ****1/4 I don't think that match was like Austin-Rock 3 or Rock-Cena 2 finisher spam at all. Now the Battleground(3rd match) was definitely overkill. The 2nd match is somewhere in between but I've only watched it once. Well that's the whole point of this project. Both of us will rate him highly for different reasons. You couldn't pay me to watch the 40+ big Cena-Orton matches. The one I did like was the 8 minute Unforgiven 2007 WWE title match where Orton beat up Cenas dad. My rating is based on: 2003 Rapper heel/2004 rapper face untill Wrestlemania 20 and then sparingly untill 201/ vs. Lesnar 02.06.03 Commentary during A-Train/Lesnar vs. Eddie Guerrero SD 04.??.03 vs. Eddie Guerrero Parking Lot Brawl vs. Benoit 04.06.2003 vs. Taker Vengeance 2003 vs. Kurt Angle No Mercy 2003(my favorite Cena match untill WM23) w/ Brock Lesnar v. The Undertaker & Kurt Angle vs. Rey Mysterio 11.06.03 w/ Benoit vs. Big Show & Brock Lesnar Team Angle vs. Team Lesnar vs. Kurt Angle vs. Big Show - No Way Out 04 vs. Big Show - Wrestlemania XX I've got a big blank spot on his US title run all the way untill vs. Kurt Angle - No Way Out 05 - I like this one ok, but no where near the heel performance in 2003 or even the more tweener performance from the 04 version. vs. JBL Wrestlemania 21 - well here you go, Cena with no moves, selling and the. Winning. We've CENUFF vs. JBL - "I Quit" Judgment Day 05 - this was a badass brawl that I didn't expect. Fucking awesome bloodied enraged Cena scares Bradshaw into giving up. Where was this guy when he was tying Batistas shoelaces together to win PPV hardcore matches? vs. Christian vs. Chris Jericho - Vengeance 05. This was a lot of fun, but everyone and myself were pissed it wasn't just Christian-Cena because that was the cool feud vs. Jericho - Summerslam 05 - this is where Cena starts to become a LAME babyface, not helped by the DOA Y2J characters last leg snapping. vs. Kurt Angle - Unforgiven 05 - this is where he sucks it up bad and would sit at a lot of the next 5 or 6 years. He somehow devolved into Rocky Maivia floppy babyface. Where's the big All Japan power moves(Turnbuckle Powerbomb? Apron DDT?) from the first match? Bad bad. vs. Edge - MITB cash in, great storyline, great angle. Unfortunately I never liked any of their 40 matches just like the Orton ones. But it did lead to my favorite Edge World title match vs. Ric Flair TLC V. vs. Triple H - Wrestle mania 22 - I'm an H apologist and this was an H match all the way with the perfect ending. This was the true stamp of approval of him as the #1 guy in the promotion with Big Dave being #2 due to age & injuries. vs. Rob Van Dam - One Night Stand - love this whole PPV so much and this is the perfect ending. Sure it wasn't exactly RVD from say, the Sabu stretcher match, the Scorpio match, or from 2001/2 but damn one of my favorites made it. Classic moment and Cena was perfect. I think only Ric Flair 10 years earlier or Hollywood Hogan 1997 w/ cronies vs. Shane Douglas(or Sabu?) could have done this better. vs. Sabu - ECW & Vengeance Lumberjack match - now this was my favorite Cena stuff since 2003. I loved that Sabu finally got a big run in WWE and killed it here(and even better with Rey, Kurt & Big Show) vs. Shawn Michaels - Wrestlemania 23 - great match, aww boo he didn't sell the knee oh well. Great ending sequence, classic. His best since the Angle match in 03. Tbc

My natural reaction, as someone that started watching WCW in 1997, is Flaif #1 and I have him sitting there still even though I haven't watched him much after my 2002-2006 Flair matches marathon from a few months ago. Flair-Brock RAW - *** wished this could have been 20 minutes longer, on PPV, in 2003 with Brock as face OR heel in his prime(03 is Brock's prime to me) and you have a GOAT match contender. Flair-Guerrero KOTR 02 - ***1/2 just a great little midcard match with Flair in great shape and Eddie in his 2nd best year Flair-Triple H RAW 09.??.02 ***1/4(better than the 03 version I think) - yeah 2002 Triple H is nothing compared to 2000/2001 Trips but 2002-2006 H is either great or blows. This match is sneaky great Flair-Triple H Cage @ Taboo Tuesday 05 ****1/4 & Flair-Triple H LMS @ Survivor Series 05 ****1/2 - hadn't seen this, holy shit it was awesome. Flair is in his ultimate "Final WWE run, sympathetic old man babyface" mode here. And Triple H reverts back to the 2000/2001 violent/dastardly "Cerebral Assasin" mode that he only brought out for the Shawn hardcore match @ Summerslam 2002 and the Armageddon 2002 hardcore match. On the other hand you have HHH "ace heel" of 2002-2005 or "NWA ace heel" with Purple or blue tights and boots (or bicycle shorts!) which sucked ass and is the problem with his career. Like the Nash PPV matches(purple) or the Casket match with Kane. But about the match H stabs Flair with a screwdriver and smashes his head with a chair 20x and gives him several Pedigrees and basically makes Flair look awesome. ANYWAYS basically I have reasons why I have Ric Flair #1 for now I got high vote on [ Brock Lesnar ] at #4 I got high vote on [ Chris Benoit] at #5 I got high vote on [ AJ Styles ] at #9 I got [ Jun Akiyama ] at #12 I suspect a few have him higher, but I have [ Toshiaki Kawada ] at #14 below Jun. I got [ Undertaker ] at #13, got to be the highest. Having him above Kawada seems strange. I have [ Kurt Angle ] at #16, one spot behind [ John Cena ] at #15.... Does anyone have [ Vader ] higher than #10?