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Hahaha omg just put it on and Owens just makes me laugh. Lateral press, cara out. "That was 3."- steen "No that was 1." - referee Man I don't know why but I laughed like an idiot in front of people. I know you guys all like the New Day and they're fun and I enjoy them but I'm not gonna pretend they're better than "my guy". Maybe you didn't like the Cena Trilogy but you gotta pull for the chubby bearded guy with basketball shorts running around with that belt that was so important in this world in our childhoods!

Yeah weird I've been looking to find this again for months but it's always this match on YouTube. Seriously an easy ***** and a match that I've watched a bunch of times. And with not even all the context of the story or matches before it(because I just don't have the patience to watch all these lesser matches for context). And maybe I'm a bad fan or a mark for that but oh well. I kinda have always been like now now best best since I first got into Puro in 2003. Just jumped straight into 6.4.94, 6.5.95, 1.20.97 basically. Best of Kobashi, Kawada etc. because at 14 or 15 I had to get quality for my money. It's funny how easy kids have it these days with all this Puro online without waiting a full day to download it, if that was even possible. The only tape I didn't sell during my hard times at 18/19 was the 6.4.94 Misawa /Kawada Highspots tape. Not for any GOAT respect reasons either ha. A freakin tape with 1 match on it was 10 dollars not so long ago

I'm watching everything from Brock Lesnar' first WWE run, 02-04. Everything I haven't seen mixed with the stuff that made him my favorite wrestler of all time in just a few months time. And to me, when he became WWE Ace @ Summerslam 02, he is the #1, best wrestler in the world untill the day he left in my eyes, and that 2 year period has a damn fine top 10 but I'll go crazy trying to list that. Just want to look at a few random bouts: - Brock Lesnar v. Randy Orton - Smackdown 09.02.2002 Brock is Undisputed Champion here, taking the "Torch" from Rock, who had it passed to him by Hogan at Mania for some reason. Except at Summerslam Rock didn't pass it, Brock tore off his arm and carried around the arm holding said "Torch". Lesnar left in 2004 with his torch, and presumably Bischoff presented Triple H with a meaningless torch. Trips passed this phony one onto Batista in 2005, untill quickly taking it back and giving it to John Cena in 2006. uh. Seriously one of the best Orton matches I've ever seen, and finest sub 5 minute matches too. It made me actually want to see a match between them now(in retrospect Mania 29 would have been a good place with Brock tapping him w/ the Kimura instead of the Triple H job). Orton comes in with more fire than I've ever seen him, hitting some stiff elbows/forearms and a bunch of leg kicks(!) like he's Bryan or something. You can see the competition between this rookie class of 2002. Brock gets mad a catches him with an Overhead Suplex and then just throws Randall over the top rope, he lands on the ring post and then falls onto the floor in a nice bump. Back in, Brock blocks a clothesline with both of his forearms and hits a wicked STO. Awesome. Brock charges into the corner, Orton gets a boot up, but fuck that m, Lesnar catches it, throws it down and hits a mean Lariat in the corner. Lesnar does this over the shoulder gutbuster which is different. Orton does his shitty over the hip back breaker that he still does, goes up and hits a crossbody, Brock rolls through, deadlifts him up and flips him onto his shoulders(the first time I had ever seen this, long before Cena ever did it) and hits the F5 for the win. Damn it's crazy how Lesnar just main evented the #2 PPV, won the Title and immediately fits right in as the Best in the World. - Brock Lesnar vs. John Cena - Smackdown 09.19.2002 Same month, still building towards Undertaker @ Unforgiven in LA(my last live show. Wow so many Summerslams and Mania 21 missed. And HIAC would have been cool to see the true end of this feud where it began m. Oh well.) Those short pink and blue tights look SO wrong on Cena! But seriously screw the jean shorts, I prefer the black shorts/ black Reeboks(?) circa 06 or the camouflage shorts circa 07(dates me, that was so in style in high school kid 2000's!). This match is about showing how well rounded Brock is, where as in the Orton match he was showing off his power and move set, here he's showing off his ground game against a stronger opponent as he would need both against The Deadman. I love Brock schooling Cena on the mat, best part is when he hooks in a full Nelson and scrapes his face all over the mat. I remember people comparing Cena to Sting at the time, maybe Bladerunner Sting cuz he's green as shit here. Cena goes for a crucifix of all things, which Brock turns into an F5. Man, even on TV squashes Brock has a unique counter to set up his finishing maneuver, he rules. More early ones soon

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Sasuke I think is one of the all-timers as far as Japanese juniors go. Amazing Red was a great worker in the American indies but I never felt like he was one of the top 10 in that category at any point in his career. Well except for a list of best TNA X Division workers but that is extremely low hanging fruit.Whoops posted this when I was editing it in the am and left it open my bad. Anyway X Division from 2002-2007 ruled with MOTYC and legit top 5,10 or 20 in the world talent. And again in 2011-2012 it had a damn good run. Anyway, ugh I don't want to be off topic or be a TNA martyr, so I will not. Just AJ/Joe/Daniels are top 20 of the last 15 years in my book. Also I got some love for Low Ki and Jerry Lynn in TNA 2002. I think it was Lynn's best run of his career and helped AJ develop and slowed Ki down and was a great guy to have. Ki in 02/03 (ROH & TNA) is also my favorite run of his. Jay Lethal as Macho Man could have been big in WWE. I liked his underdog match v. Angle for the X Title at No Surrender 2007 I believe. His best stuff was with Ric Flair in 2010, as far as being a character. Damn that "Flair off" promo is one of the top 10 best things ever in TNA. Too bad it wasn't Ric Flair 1988, so they could have made Lethal with a badass match. EDIT: Oct 16, 2015 for stupidity I'll post on the topic next

While I agree the Shield as a unit was one of best things in WWE to happen since forever, I gotta disagree that they have not reached higher heights since they broke up. Overall not *better* but certainly higher in 2015 than 2014. -Reigns/Lesnar world title bout main evented Mania, and had the MOTY so far and his best singles match ever. And Rollins stole the title to close Mania on top. -Reigns/Big Show LMS was awesome(I like Big Show though so maybe it's just me) -Reigns main evented Fast lane v. Bryan -Rollins has been Undisputed World Champion for 6 months, had 2 MOTYC world title matches:Rumble Triple Threat, v. Cena SS, 2 really good title matches with Dirty Dean and a super surprising nostalgia old v. new match with Sting -Dean Ambrose had the 2 good title matches with Rollins. Just having 2 Tyler Black/Jon Moxley WWE World titl matches to main event PPVs is awesome. -All 3 had that super fun Four Way Dance w/ Orton, another PPV main event Basically The Shield was so awesome that probably just the Lesnar/Reigns WM main event and maybe the Rollins/Cena SS were better or equal quality wise. The Shield had at least 5 matches that were ****3/4 or ***** and that's hard to top That reset is a terrible idea, a Vince Russo idea. Just destroy all characters, titles and continuity that's been going on for decades? What do we have then, WSX? Kil Purge 95% of the roster? Who's left, just Daniel Bryan? Russo basically did that in WCW when he took all the titles and trashed the shaky lineage. Would Sid just not drop the World Title?

The Benoit deal was unfortunate timing. They lost Lesnar, the greatest talent they ever had and #1 guy of the next 20 years. Should have had Eddie drop the WWE title to Triple H on a Raw and Benoit take the Big Gold Belt back to Smackdown in the draft Punk was treated so good as far as his booking(his injuries and doctor issues I'll never know the truth). Best title run of the century so far or atleast top 3. What else did he want ? And They did put the Shield over. They straight up beat them in 2 awesome matches and damn if so and so is nt going over or didn't get the right push or whatever insider junk, does it ruin awesome stuff for you? And am I the only one that loved Blue-Tista? Same with the H/Bryan match, shit, other than v. Punk(Over the Limit) and v. Cena(SS) it was Bryan's best WWE match. All 3 were ***** I heard Jericho's podcast with Batista awhile back and he was right about the smart fans kinda ruining a lot of the shows. Chanting for Bryan during every segment of the show was annoying after awhile. And everyone screamed about how politics are "sabotaging Bryan!" Because Batista didn't face Bryan at the show after Mania.and what a power move that was. He did get it, he literally just tapped out to Bryan in the world title main event of WrestleMania, after him beating Triple H straight up, all with an injured shoulder. No one has ever had a more impressive(kayfabe or in reality),big show performance than that. I really think Trips has tried his best to get over with the internet smarts(half of the audience now) and just can't catch a break. First Punk, then Danielson, Kings of Wrestling(Cesaros been godly, Hero was always a weak link, especially compared to this group), Pac, Steen, KENTA, Generico and now finally Joe. Now if you told me in 10 years ago, in October 2005 that this crew would have had this success and future potential I wouldn't have believed it(Punk in UFC after being WWE champ for 18 months, KENTA on Mania, and Danielson ME of WM with Batista and Orton?)

He put the Shield over, they're all doing great in WWE. He put Bryan over, he's going to be the #1b baby face if he ever gets back. He put over John Cena, he's the biggest star in WWE for the decade since. He put over Batista 3x and he was the #2 guy for 5 years and damn good for his last run in '14 He was the only top guy to not put over Brock in his first run -Brock couldn't handle his spot, took off for the UFC, returns after 8 years and THEN puts him over(he did win the big Mania rematch, and then lost at the next show in the cage blowoff match, so this ones a push) He put over Chris Benoit 2x then cut his legs out and had Michaels as #1 face anyway -Benoit went on a murder-suicide rampage and gave WWE the worst PR ever He cooled off CM Punk's push when he was at his peak -Punk couldn't handle his spot on the card, took off for UFC He beat Sting at WrestleMania, but cheated to set up a potential rematch if Sting worked out -Sting has a great match, top of the card for Sept, and gets a major injury and may never return I dunno I think he's good judge of who's worth laying down for. And Brock has been my favorite wrestler since the day he debuted, to the day he left, and ever since he returned. Sting, Benoit and Punk all are in my top 20 all time, but Triple H is the constant and has to have his jobs mean something when they happen.

So I'm watching Smackdown for the first time in a long time and I gotta agree with whoever said the presentation needs to change cuz it is cringeworthy mostly. Just certain aspects are like Nickalodean.!just like th fonts and graphics; for instance, the SummerSlam logos now are super lame compared to the original blue and gold one...but that's out dated. The Green/yellow/silver one used at SS 00, 01... The on with Brock/Rock. It's a terrible example I know but art direction is important to *art*. If they're the longest episodic show(or whatever shit they say) then have it look cool? Another thing is the tacky MITB case that's good with big green letters to match the dumb logo for the show(I did like the brinks truck and ladder staying at the Chicago MITB PPV a couple years ago, so it's not all bad). But as soon as they push me away they pull me right back in. First off the Roman Reigns-Wyatt segment right now is tight. Reigns: "Hell in a Cell." Bray: "I hope you're willing to die! I hope you're willing to die! I hope you're willing to die!!" Fuck yeah that's professional wrestling how I know it. maybe Triple H the will nut up and let these two try and steal the show...unless Taker and Brock politic so they don't get shown up.( I watched the Triple H DVD documentary last night and there was a hilarious but where Trips and Orton were complaining about Shawn-Taker having a great match with false finishes and "nobody in history could follow it" had to turn off after that") Wow. Kane literally just laid out the entire tag division by himself(and ran off Rollins). Wow we're back to that shit again.

What's the main argument for Valentine really?? I liked him. But Savage is a top 10 all time 5 tool player though. Mainstream. I feel like his death in 2011 was the biggest story outside of Benoit and Owen because of those extraordinary circumstances of course. To me for North American workers, only Flair, Undertaker, Bret and yes, Shawn Michaels are on his level as Legends with all aspects of the game with the crazy longevity. Outliers Benoit, Funk, Eddie and Stan Hansen. Dream Team as better than MegaPowers(what other team was Savage on for any real time?) He's got Savage there. Dream Team/Bulldogs feud and bouts blow all MegaPowers stuff from WWF and WCW away, ha Except the Doomsday Triple Cage of course! They beat 8 men! Randy v. The Dragon, Warrior, Jake Roberts, Hogan WMV, DDP and both Flair feuds are much better. Way better promos. Give Savage some real competition!

Well objectively I know Kawada is better. Just a better wrestler overall. Kawada was in 3 or 4 of my top 10 men's tag team matches of ALL time(it's too hard for me to have a definitive #1 anything really). in singles matches it's a bit harder, because there is so many, but I know he's in several of my top 20. Maybe I'm weird but my favorite singles series is v. Stan Hansen I think. I don't like him as much as most people. He is easily a Top 10 wrestler of all time, but to most that would be severely under rating him. Tenryu is sneaky good though and of course has that crazy longevity. I know I'm the only one here, but to me Tenryu v. Keiji Mutoh Triple Crown match 08.06.01 is *****, one of my favorite matches, easy MOTY, a top 5 MOTDecade. But that's just me, 01 Mutoh was what got me into Puro and this match is special to me. I love that Mutoh when he was good(rare I found out), he was as much fun as anyone ever in Japan, to me personally. Not to mention Tenryu was 51 years old and has to be the oldest guy v. Best match. Mutoh/Kawada from 2002 I think is dAmn good but I haven't watched it in so long I can't really rate it. Also Tenryu/Jumbo 06.05.89 is easy ***** . another one of my Top 10/15 matches of all time. I've rewatched these two matches more than any Kawada singles matches I bet.

Braun Strowman is awesome. I've learned a new way of looking at a lot of wrestlers, like how they play to their character perfectly(old Andre, Hall of Pain Henry), and realized why I liked those guys when I wasn't "supposed to" as a smart or whatever, and this guy does it for me. Get this man a Chokeslam or Powerbomb finisher though. He's gotta be better than Khali right? Am I the only one looking forward to Braun v. Cena, Big Show, Cesaro and not likely but, Lesnar?

First off I got a little ahead of myself with that storyline lol. I tend to forget how 95% of wrestlers are bad actors. The other 5% would have a tough time with that storyline. But I like to think outside the box, and I appreciate companies taking creative risks. That's why up until 2013 when TNA became completely unwatchable, I appreciated it being different and trying new stuff creatively, trying to find that spark of a storyline that turned them into competition or whatever, just make some money atleast. Like the way they would film backstage in a documentary style instead of the weird hidden camera style WWE has used since like 2000 and hasn't changed a bit. Also the Joeseph Park/Abyss storline(which now that I think about it, was pretty much the same thing as what I re commended. And I'm not as down as most on Abyss. I mean he's not good but he's surely better than Kane). Also the Aces and 8s storyline had potential but again they used a bunch of WWE jobbers and made it worthless. The supernatural/dark side stuff is tricky because it goes from cool to Wrestlecrap real fast. Also it can get offensive to some like the Punk/Taker feud over desecration of Paul Bearer. I liked most of the Kane-Undertaker feud leading to the WrestleMania 14/Unforgiven matches except the whole "shooting lightning" on Raw thing. I liked the Inferno match at the time because it was worked as smart as it could've been without being an Onita FMW match. The thing is that these guys have to be able to actually do that kick, punch, slam, suplex wrestling thing to pay these things off. That's why the Undertaker has actually been able to do it all these years, he's been able to go out there and have a great match or a great gimmick brawl. That's one reason I always liked the Taker-Foley feud. There were two all time wrestlers and out there characters that had great matches even in uncharted territory: Buried Alive match, boiler room brawl etc. in the end they had The Definitive Blowoff too in the HIAC, which is the reason Foley became a top star and that Vince is still making money off that gimmick next month. I'll admit it.. I appreciate Vince Russo and his style. Good contributions and bad ones too. I'd have to do a lot of re watching of 1999 WWF PPVs and then Raws when I can get The Network which will be tough after reading that Highway to heck thread. In WCW I liked some of his stuff. Like using the Triple Cage from the movie, I loved that gimmick. It was just crazy they'd have such a thing. It was part of the reason I got back into wrestling at the very end of 2000 and have been almost entirely since. That, the 6 man HIAC clips, seeing this new look, huge, main event Triple H and being intrigued. He just tried changing too much at once, and degraded the hardcore longtime fans trying to appeal to a new demographic. I like big changes but you can't kill the cruiserweights, lose all the great workers with star potential(Radicals), piss off the Legends like Hogan and Flair and turn everything upside down. Still I like watching it as an alternative to whatever's on sometimes. Anyway I ramble as always.

So is there a Raw thread I'm missing? Or even a Raw post that I'm missing ? Well guess who's watching his first full show of Raw on Cable via TV for the first time in years? Yeah I'm living at my parents for a short time God willing, so here's one perk....right? Anyone? I guess I won't use those two sentences on ladies. So damn they actually made the Kane story line into something that can actually turn out into an awesome storyline that has lots of potential if it's done right. There are millions of possibilities if they are going dual personality. Imagine: Kane books himself in a 6 pack challenge match with Himself, Rollins, Sting, whoever.,.corporate Kane would book himself only in a match he could help with. And he gets knocked down under ring, re emerges with slacks off and fire tights, with mask. maybe he becomes more like old Kane over time. With full mask. Gotta be clever and spend more time but I could write a million ideas for this. Eventually in a match to help Seth, maybe a triple threat, to get them 1 on 1(they would take out any challenger together to get him KO'd for awhile). Cena or Orton would work IF they go with the idea Kane gets the revenge and becomes champion. I'm ok with that if he is really retiring after Mania. And no I don't mean main event Wrestlemania at all. Just as a transitional champion either back to Rollins or to the guy Rollins beats at Mania. gotta be smart with this though. And lol just like that before I could finish editing this they killed my idea haha. I realized why it would never work. Kane's character has already been mishandled for so long and been jobbed out so much vs. his original incarnation.

Jesus I gotta stop posting when I'm high. Always in wrong place

Seth wore the white alternative s? Awesome! I loved Cena-Rollins 1 more than most. I agree there was some bad spots in psychology like the super plex into falcon arrow, but the crowd do love it, but that's the problem you burn them on thee big moves and what do you have? But I didn't think it was at all like a Davey Richards match come on. I mean same ball park but I lik to think of him as an Eddie-Shawn -trips combo.... Anyway I can't wait to see the 3 titles matches when they ar up. How did Sting-Seth match up to say Sting-AJ?

Yeah well they're obviously 50/50 on him seeing as they jobbed him out at Mania. And completely buried him on commentary the whole match. But that's old news. 1997 Sting is gone I'll have to accept it. On the flip side, the fans did erupt when he grabbed hold of the Deathdrop and went for the Scorpion. Is everyone totally against him having a semi high profile 6 month run ending at Mania 32 like Hogan in '02? One thing I don't get is if the long term plan for Taker was to do a trilogy with Lesnar, and Sting wAs going to job at Mania 31, why didn't they do Sting/Taker then? Triple H could have work d Bray since he's so high on him?

Only the Sting/Shiw match was up which was just punching but it's only Raw and he's 56 so you gotta save him. It was cool to see Sting back in the ring in front of a real crowd, and cool to see hiM on Raw finally wrestle....and unlike Mania Cole and jbl didn't bury him the whole time. Was no one else a big Sting fan EDIT: I kinda answered my own question with *was didn't I. I think he got over exposed on TNA and of course he should have came back years ago etc. But in 15 years since it closed, the only guys to have good careers from WCW were Rey and Booker T. Hogan definitely reached higher highs and similar, but way less lows.

Ha according to ESPN.com Mayweather made *220 Million* dollars for the Pac fight. So us they aren't winning the bidding war with anyone. He'd have to want to do another match for fun and a courtesy $1M check as a tip: Heck Vince would love to have him every year if he could. L

As for why we need the part timers. Because they are over, they can get others over and they are mostly great workers and characters. Without big stars to beat, who is gonna believe in this crop of guys? The show IS built around those guys just as much. 1) Seth Rollins Is the Undisputed WWE world heavyweight champion. There 1 of these in wrestling now. 1 worldwide promotion and 1 top champ and its him. He just co main evented the 2nd biggest show of the year with the #1 guy in wrestling for the past decade, killed it and won. 2) Seth Rollina is "The Man" no longer the "future ". He IS the top guy in the Authority. Triple H is the leader but not the "Man" anymore. His words. 3) There are many guys that were huge Crow Sting fans and started watching WCW in 1997 or in the nWo years at least and will always love that character and I personally think he's a Legend and love his ring work, even if his best work was 88-94. Hanging in the rafters, rappelling down, his Batman like beat downs of whole gangs of wresters...and yeah there were some matches too. But yeah At Survivor Series it looked like we were going to get that man of justice character back for a bit against the Authority but no.... Anyway he's super old but is in great shape and is timeless with the gear and war paInt.? Triple H sandbagged him by giving his usual match instead of giving his all like with Bryan the year before. Just compare those side by side. And yeah the announcers buried him so hard for a new to WWE baby face. But he isn't a bitter guy like the most would be. He got a massive reaction in Raw and moved around me the ring faster than I've seen since WCW. I think him and Seth are going to surprise everyone. It's a special match, not a long term thing. Reigns is getting built up the right way. Slow Taker is a special attraction face that draws so he gets promoted. Think Andre in 1985. Brock is a special attraction that is so awesome they had to give him the heavyweight title, think Stan Hansen in AWA. So it's 2 special attractions meeting each other at the 2 big Special shows. The last match was damn good. It's only taking one prominent spot on any big show. Bray is mid card and good at it. Rusev is a great old school worker and will get his chance.

They are ready with Rollins and Reigns. They both have IT. Reigns won the Rumble and main event Ed Mania against the most over monster heel since Andre and best since Vader. He lost but was screwed and Rollins won the Heavyweight Title at WrestleMania? How are "they" not ready for these guys. Reigns/Lesnar is a all time Mania match and Cena/Rollins was maybe my MOTY( I haven't seen the Owens/Cena matches but I have all 3 on deck for today). So yeah. As for Bray? He's had more chances and push than any wrestler that hasn't delivered immediately in singles. He had a Bryan feud.(haven't seen the rumble match) and then a months long Cena Mania feud and all the smoke and mirrors and didn't get over(I forget who won the matches probably Cena but Bray just doesn't click in-ring like other similar dark heels like Mankind or Raven did. And then he had a Taker Mania feud which is the best chance he had to get over as a main eventer he went out there and had a ** match and no heat. Don't get me wrong I like him, I like the character and the stable a lot. But I like him in a tag team with Luke Harper. Wyatts Match at Summerslam was excellent

"According to The Wrestling Observer, Ronda Rouseys involvement with WrestleMania 32 is DOA. She will be shooting a film in Indonesia during WrestleMania." So I got a couple points but what does everyone think about this tidbit? Personally I'm happy, I had no interest in Rock/Rousey vs. Triple H/ Stephanie. I understand the publicity part and that she is the biggest **lady** fighter(yeah sorry Mayweather and Manny drew what 4 million more buys than Rouseys 1M?) ... But actually I think it would have gotten a lot more press because she's a dominant baby face unlike Floyd who's basically a chickenshit heel, with all the skills in the world but prefers to knock people out during stoppages(Flair or Savage in the 80's kinda?)....which Makes Tyson like a monster tweener? But all "kick off a new mainstream hot period" talk aside with Rousey, I was not looking forward to Rousey-Steph promos....and really would that get over? Rock? He needs a rub less than any wrestler ever, Steph and Triple H as heels? They are eternal heels even if they turn face on television. Mike Tyson got Austin over as the toughest wrestler in the world for trying to fight him and got DX over for having him w/ them. Well Rock/Trips attitude throwback "End of the Era: new chapter nNostalgia that could actually bring back somewhat recent fans, with wrestlers that would fit in tomorrow as WWE champ. But I'd rather use Rocks name for someone that needs it more, becAuse there's gonna be a lot of part timers on that show and damn I hate to say it but WWE is like 1998 wcw with using part timers in main events, but only if that old v.New match is better or more memorable

You think they will pull the trigger on the Triple H-Rollins is Heavyweight title match that soon? In a Cell too off the bat? I hope not, although selfishly I'd love to see that match( in a Cell or just 1v1 title match), because I was always a fan of Rollins in the Shield and sorta after but after watching SummerSlam '15 recently I jumped on the Seth Rollins is 'The Man' bandwagon. I'll just post my thoughts here instead of in that corpse thread Seriously it blew me away good with his state-of-the-art offense, crazy athleticis: Phoenix Splash land on feet roll through, running SSP, running Turnbuckle Powerbomb(one of my favorite moves), "roll through, pick up opponent dead weight in front not you throw them over your head onto shoulders and then AA" better than Cena, hang time, Eddy like FrogSplash. Say what you will about Movez, this match had psychology and bomb throwing for sure. But it wasn't finisher spam like Rock/Cena II, or counting 20 Gemans like the Brock/Rollins(hey I love both guys and I loved that gimmick at Summerslam last year but seriously 9 minute PPV main event title match 7 of it was Germans and Rollins looked BAD ),or that Davey Richards ROH match that got ***** that sucked ass. Plus the Alternate White Gear from Seth was badass, main event style for sure

Omg I have deleted big posts twice this AM. Basically HBK hasn't come back for a match with Brock or Sting who are active and Legends/#1 heel in years, or Rock when he was back with all his star power and the money that he could have made and the moments they would have been(Shawn was a mark first remember.) So he's not going to come back for Daniel Bryan who's great(was?) and organically super over(was?) but was really only a star for a year . Also Shawn had no personal training over Bryan says Bryan, so there's r not close

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