MoS

100% agreed. Speaking of BTE, I dunno if you have checked it out, but there's a compilation of all Brodie Lee/Dark Order segments on YouTube. I highly recommend it. I stopped watching BTE cuz I started finding it unbearable, but I always check out the Dark Order segments. The chemistry between Brodie Lee and John Silver was remarkable

100%, and I think the same applies to Omega too. It's really annoying. Keep it simple, stupid is not just a naughty acronym. The Bucks made their feud with FTR, which wrote itself, so underwhelming with all the mixed signals and tweener bullshit they did. I agree with this, but I actually liked the fact that the show ended with a chaotic dozen-men brawl. This was AEW's trademark in its early days, and I had always liked that cuz it was one thing that WWE basically never does unless it's Survivor Series, at which point it feels too inorganic. I appreciated that aspect. But they should definitely have had Mox and Omega cut promos, especially given Mox was there and taking pictures with Jorge Masvidal.

They dropped War Games because of the pandemic. Tony Khan said it did not seem appropriate with what the world was going through. Agreed about Omega and Page. I have noticed this with a lot of angles involving Omega and the Bucks - they overcomplicate things and never seem to know where they are eventually headed. AEW needs to get better at closing out storylines and transitioning to new ones. But that's a discussion for another thread

I don't think those little things would end up hurting them in the least. I thought the first match was terrible, but that's not because Shaq manhandled Cody. That one was pretty easy to explain. Cody thought Shaq wouldn't know what to do with a lockup cuz he is so new, except he had been training and he knew what to do, and because size matters. The next couple of times they locked up, Cody used his experience to neutralize Shaq's power. Shaq did a stretcher job at the end of the match. That by itself meant that he was far more giving than basically any celebrity has been in any wrestling angle forever. Mr. T was able to get one-up over the top heels in 1985; it didn't hurt WWF's rise. Heels have made fun of how top faces look/how ugly they are forever. That has never hurt them. The bit about the Good Brothers suddenly helping them is valid though. As far as the dig at Jericho, AEW's appeal since the start has been that it allows wrestlers to truly be themselves and not let them get bogged down by the evil management. This is especially cuz WWE took the wrong lesson from Austin-McMahon and worked themselves into a shoot, turning the promotion heel. You might think this is a very meta way of looking at it, and casual fans wouldn't care, but casual fans also wouldn't care about a throwaway line meant just to burn someone while take a dig at the opposition. The fact that anyone spending 2 seconds to think about it understood what the intent was underscores this. If this had been the entire hook (sorry Taz) of their main event storyline, then yes, I would have agreed with it. I think a lot of the criticisms in the last few comments are picking nits. WWF in both its boom period was highly illogical; "entertaining but illogical" has never stopped wrestling from growing. None of the criticisms highlighted above made AEW look bush league. You know what did make them look bush league though? The fact that in the biggest match of the night, the wrestlers took about 5 mins to set up the tables, with the world seemingly having stopped, until poor QT had to come by and help with it. The fact that the camera work was so sloppy, it missed out on numerous spots, including a spear, that ended up being nearfalls. That made AEW look 3rd rate. Not really micro stuff that might be fun for us to discuss, but ultimately don't really matter in my opinion.

Oh fuck, I knew he was on his deathbed but I didn't know he passed away. RIP I know this is an unpopular opinion, but I thought the Shaq match was the worst match of the year. However, this episode was easily the best Dynamite of the year. So much energy and momentum and hotness. I am so pumped for Revolution

Well that was random

These rappers are terrible

Well fuck me six ways to Sunday

I have zero idea why either Riho or Thunder Rosa is not in the finals, esp on such a big show when they would have wanted a proven ratings draw like Riho. And I really do not need to watch yet another Shida-Rose match, especially without any build. That said though, this match has been solid

Paul Wight has always been a great promo and has always been a very entertaining and charismatic personality. I first noticed it during that 2000 SNL segment with the WM 2000 main eventers, when he actually went toe to toe with Rock, who does have a little bit of charisma, in case you never noticed. He seemed like he was having fun too, so I am glad for him

I am marking out SO HARD for all the JCP throwbacks and commentary name-drops. This is the greatest night in the history of our sport

ATSUSHI ONITA ON LIVE AMERICAN TV!! JJ FUCKING DILLON

Don't know if Brandi would have been much better than Red Velvet. It's not as if she is much more known than Velvet

I literally do not remember Jericho-Rock being tag champs? When was it? And HAHAHAHA MJF is the best

Yeah missing the spear was terrible camerawork

They took 5 mins to set the tables LMAO. QT had to help Velvet with it. This might have been the worst match in Dynamite history, and the worst match of the year, and all I could do was laugh uncontrollably throughout this

The way Shaq awkwardly and clumsily entered the ring just killed me LMAO. This will be a trainwreck

He might not care one iota about NXT, but he absolutely cares about crushing AEW. We have seen Vince's MO for decades now. He cares about crushing competition and/or nipping any kind of competition in the bud far more than he cares about being the biggest promotion on the planet. So he absolutely will be busting Hunter's balls about how he could not put away a pissant promotion run by skinny geeks and WWE rejects

Big E is awesome. And while I am very agnostic about Lashley being any kind of draw, I personally love him. Here's hoping that this year's Survivor Series's champ v. champ match is Big E v. Lashley. Surely good bubba @KawadaSmile would agree that's the best possible pairing of BIG MEN SLAPPING MEAT

For me personally, the hip hip hooray is not about AEW "winning" and all about "HUNTER IS NOT A BOOKING GENIUS, STOP WISHING VINCE DIES, THAT WON'T CHANGE SHIT"

Personally, while I wouldn't brag about it if I were AEW, this result pleases me cuz it destroys the narrative that Hunter is the great saviour of wrestling and if only Vince would let him take over, WWE would become great again. How this man went from being the Satan of wrestling to the Great New Hope is baffling

So which wrestling war was sadder and more pathetic, Monday Night Wars v. 2, or the Wednesday Night Wars

No, but a one-time constant bait-and-switch to ensure viewers don't leave the show in droves is effective...the first time they do it. They actually opened with lower viewers than they did last week, although that was also a post-PPV bump. Knowing WWE though, I fully expect them to think they have finally cracked the code, and start doing bait and switches at the top of each hour, and then be absolutely stunned when they plunge to further record lows. Exactly. Tweeting in character makes no sense given she called Asuka a badass champ. She probably just thought she was being funny. No one on the WWE main roster can ever be funny. Working under Vince will do that to you

I liked the match enough the first time I watched it, although that was because it was live and HHH could very well have actually ended the streak. On rewatch, I hated it. This is truly where Jerome's "self-conscious epic" took its final, most frustrating form. From the very beginning they are hitting each other with bombs and then lying around on their backs for literal minutes, doing absolutely nothing. It's the epitome of "Look at us, we are having an epic match!!" Like, you knew before the match started that this was going to be WWE's top match of the year.

Shaq and Jade might be the worst tag team in wrestling history