MoS

This match already rules. Cody's shtick can get overwrought sometimes, but his highs are incredibly high

With his hair looking as evergreen as ever. Still not sure why Cody dyed his hair back to black

The weenies bit is straight out of a terrible Raw segment. Bad stuff.

Not just that, but in the Archer promo, he mentioned NJPW by name. Pretty sure it's the first time on AEW television. Theyusually used to say "in Japan" or "in the Tokyo Dome"

I would have honestly put Hobbs over. When was the last time any major wrestling promotion made a huge new star by giving them a big win right off the bat?

J.R botching Starks' name literally one minute into the podcast. At what point do they pull the plug on his decrepit ass

30 years of Jericho!

You'll take Butler's performance over Jodan's flu/food poisoning game?

Yeah this is a fair point, even Mox has a good shout.

I agree with this. The problem was not that she was hammy or over the top. The problem was that she was terrible at expressing any kind of emotion. I don't think I have seen her express any genuine emotion apart from "Fucking Americans!!' Which, no offense to you all Americans here, does not take a lot of effort from any of us foreigners. I associate going over the top with how prime heel Mr. McMahon would react to Stone Cold Steve Austin fucking his happiness. And it used to be awesome every time. Now, of course, Vince is a once-in-a-generation performer, but my point is being over the top is actually good in wrestling when you are executing angles resembling soap operas.

Very few comments actually make me laugh out loudly. This did. Well done, bubba.

Bayley v. Sasha is my favourite NXT feud of all-time, but those two were butchered so badly on the main roster, I don't think at present they have a prayer. Bayley has had a good heel title run, and it has really picked up when the Bayley-Sasha angle started, but she is still just a couple of years removed from being squashed by Alexa Bliss in 5 minutes in her hometown. Sahsa too was used to put over Charlotte's PPV streak, and at no point has been treated like even the top women's star on a single brand. Every time she would make a comeback, she would have a ton of momentum, and they would just beat her. Sasha is the youngest amongst them, I think, so she does have time to add to her case.

When did he talk Becky down? Becky did give an interview to him, when he was in Las Vegas. Anyway, I definitely remember him saying Becky would be the first American woman of the new generation to go in. I will try and find the episode. I don't think Charlotte will go in because she has no historical influence argument. She was shoehorned into the WM main event but she was clearly the 3rd wheel there. Meltzer might be a big fan of her work but as I said, work by itself is never enough to go in.

I will try and find in good faith the episode. Can you point to where he has downplayed her chances at the WoN HoF? The thing about the WON HOF criteria is that we have no concrete means to measure drawing power of modern candidates now. When it started, house shows based on advertising marquee names was a thing, as was PPV buys. We don't have PPV now, Network numbers are not the best replacement because WWE offers their entire repository there and the appeal is as much historical as current, and even before COVID, WWE had cut way back down on house shows. That is one of three factors eliminated. Quality of work has always been subjective and I don't think anyone has ever got in based on quality of work alone. By traditional metrics, Cena was the last North American worker who should be in.

It was a mailbag question on a WOR.

lol of course you don't agree with a comment calling you out on your predictable bullshit. "Add something constructive" coming from you is probably the most hilariously ironic post made here in several weeks. Come on dude. If you have any actual examples, I am happy to be proven wrong. Most I can see is he has said she does not always spike ratings, but that is countered by him saying on multiple occasions that she is a ratings mover and the biggest star in the promotion. He literally said he thinks Becky Lynch will be the first American woman to be inducted into his hall of fame. If he has said/tweeted anything to the contrary (and he does contradict himself so I am not ruling it out), I will take your point, but not this "I know what and how Meltzer thinks" nonsense and your usual shtick. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, etc etc.

"You are wrong except all examples you gave. I will, on the other hand, make vague sweeping statements like always and will not give any proof, as per my usual modus operandi." Predictable but still eye-roll-worthy from you.

This is absolutely not true. He was asked on his radio show a few months back which American's women's wrestler he thinks will go to the WON HoF first, and his response was Becky. He has also on Twitter on multiple occasions said she is one of the, if not the biggest full-time ratings mover on the WWE roster. On the other hand, he has consistently pointed out that Charlotte did not one way or another make a difference in NXT's ratings. I actually listen to him and read his work, and he has been a fan of Becky.

He literally was slotted in the main event so he would not overshadow Rock and Cena with his overness. I will definitely take the point about Ronda being more important, but to equate Miz and Becky is ridiculous. Does this also apply to Daniel Bryan's main event too? Why would Becky v. Charlotte main event when Ronda v. Becky was the main feud and the hottest feud the promotion had?

I don't think WWE being terrible at structuring their shows takes away from the historical moment of the main event itself. I'd argue that her being booked in the main event itself is the achievement here. Even 5 years ago, that thought would have been impossible.

I think Becky goes in when she is eligible for historical influence - she became the people's choice to be the first woman to main event WM, and then had a long reign where she was consistently treated as the top star of the promotion, with multiple main events. The rest of the horsewomen I am not sure, but Sasha is young and has plenty of time to add to her case.

I think it was jdw

Yeah, was just coming to post this -

Agreed about it being a dick-waving contest. Especially weird that wrestling promotions insist on it, because the most infamous example of a taped show is Mankind winning the world title, where the ratings were very legendarily helped by giving out spoilers.

How many people are in the WON HoF for being great trainers? Probably Stu Hart and Ultimo Dragon? Who else?