MoS

I guess I shouldn't be too angry at people who don't like Hunter but voted for him in the top 100 bevause they thought he deserved it objectively. I fucking hate Shawn Michaels and his stupid face, and I still put him on my ballot for the exact same reason. That said, fuck Triple H. I can't think of a single wrestler who has disappointed as many times as he has in important main egents and on big shows.

I love Kana/Asuka; pretty sure I have watched her entire pre-nxt career, and I am surprised that a) someone had her at No. 7 and she is ultimately ending below Sasha, whom I did not vote for. I had Asuka at No. 80, I think. Unless Sasha's name has come up already, and like a total goof, I have missed it.

I think most of HHH's most touted matches range from very good to great - in the 3.75-4 stars, if you want to quantify it - which is very good, even if they are not the mythical epics that the WWE machine pretends they are. However, my issue is, to put it simply, that they are great despite HHH being in them. I love the Triple Threat at WM 20 (and Backlash 2004), yet I struggle to remember anything HHH did in that match, beyond tapping out very very slowly. The only time I can think of Hunter actively contributing to make a match excellent was the Daniel Bryan WM match.

I second 'Taker and Kane v. Kronik. Jesus that match was abysmal. Those Undertaker-Kane matches during Kane's 2010 world title run were awful as well.

I had Bret as my number 30, I think, and I actually thought that was a quite generous rank for someone who I think was somehow alnost always a little less than the sum of his parts. (I had Kobashi at 11.)

I would be interested in the reasoning behind ranking Bret above Kobashi too.

The first person that came to my mind was Triple H. In his case, I think a lot of his great matches have been a result of institutional support and good dance partners. Even then, I think his performances have managed to drag down even his best matches, with very few expectations.

Okay, we have reached the stage where I am starting to think that Triple Goddamned H will place way too high for my liking.

Pretty sure the Quack one is from a friend who has been lurking here for years, and whom I convinced to form an account here. Unless I am much mistaken, he also would have another crazy high Chikara dude in his ballot. He does plan on defending them publicly, so it would be interesting. I never got too much into Chikara myself.

I didn't vote for her, but I am glad Sasha hasn't come up yet. Even if she is tue next one, 375 is a very good placing for someone who was almost unknown 1.5 years ago.

I would laugh if the answer to this turns out to be Triple H.

So, mine is the highest vote on Chris Masters, I see. It was probably a vote driven more by emotion than rationality, admittedly.

I just want to say that I am absolutely loving the slow roll-out, and we haven't even reached the top 500 yet. I know many are happy and relieved that the whole thing is over, but I will be very sad once the curtains come down on this project. It has been insanely fun and educative for me. If someone had told me 4 years ago that I would one day be actively seeking out and marking out for pervy, horrible, mute-worthy WWE commmentator Jerry Lawler matches, I would have recommended them to get a good antidote for their essence of insanity. Shows how little we all know.

Since my list is not anonymous and was submitted before I watched WM, can I ask for Chris Jericho to be knocked the fuck out of my list and be replaced by literally anyone the organisers want? Fuck that dude.

Couldn't submit the tag team ballot, but I have submitted the singles ballot. Hopefully, it is not past the deadline yet. This has been an amazing ride.

England or Australia? I dn't mind too much when the Windies win, even when they beat my team.

So, the Cricket World Cup is going on, and I suddenly realised HOLY SHIT I HAVEN"T TYPED IN MY BALLOT! Well, at least something good came out of India not making it to the finals. I can now fill the form in relative comfort.

Not complaining, but I did find it odd about Sting not mentioning Luger. I remember Flair hadn't mentioned Sting in his HoF speech, but I had chalked that to him being in TNA then.

Shock because it didn't feel like the finish, rather than at the result. No, that was at the result I feel. That crowd LOVES Bayley. Her losing the title was a pretty big deal. Exactly. It was because they cared should have read the rest of the thread and replied later, but I'll reiterate. If they cared so much then why were they all sitting when the finish came? I totally agree with the guy who said that the shock was at least in part b/c that didn't feel like the finish. And IMO it's not because the work didn't make it feel like a finish but because the crowd was inexplicably not treating it like a finishing stretch. No one was expecting Bayley to lose by submission, either by tap or pass out. My impression was they got a little to cute and decided to copy the Meisha-Holly finish and no one picked up on it. I know when the bell rang my reaction was of the "wait, what just happened" variety, I thought for a second maybe the timekeeper messed up. It's one of the reasons why I think wrestling shouldn't try to look too much towards MMA for inspiration. The Miesha-Holly finish was legit great stuff, but WWE went too long with it, and in wrestling, when you have a babyface trying to get up right before they are choked out, and the ref has stopped himself from calling for the bell 3 times, then you kind of have to break free from the hold and pay off the spot. It makes logical sense within the pro wrestling rules. I also hated it when they were trying the "ref stops the bout despte there being no pinfall; winner by tko!" that they were doing a few years back.

If I were hoping for a smooth transition to the Paul Levesque era, I would try to pretend that 2003 never happened.

This show was awesome. A bit bummed about the rather underwhelming reaction Asuka received for her victory, as well as the finish, although it went a bit too long for my taste. But I guess not a lot of the fans follow MMA.

The black people in the South fly and feel the flag is just pride too? I am not American, and I have only spent 4 months in America in my life - in Birmingham, Alabama - so I am not close to being qualified about this, but I made a bunch of black friends there, and a lot of them feel very uncomfortable with the Confederate flag being flown. One person I know is moving to Portland, and publicly stated that he is glad, because every time he drives from Mobile -or probably Dothan, I don't remember - to Birmingham, he feels really disturbed by that giant Confederate flag flying on the way.

Better organisation, I would think. It wasn't the dates so much as the geography of it. WWF used to be a NY-centric territory; Vince then declared war on AWA, and tried to open up L.A and I think S.A, which were dead, using Hogan. He needed to tour those places as many times, so the flights and the travel used to be brutal. By 1987, things had settled down, so they could afford to be more reasonable about it.

It's not about right or wrong - it's about what perceptions were at the time. The Confederate Flag was on a hit TV show, on the Georgia State Flag, on the Freebirds' attire, and all over the place. That pretty much makes it an irrefutable fact that a ton of people were okay with it back then, and I refuse to believe all of them were racist. The flag had multiple meanings at the time. Now, it really symbolizes only one thing - racism - and therefore definitely isn't acceptable anymore. The Nazi logo was originally a Japanese peace symbol. Does that mean all ancient Japanese people were raging anti-semites? Nope. Hindu peace symbol, not a Japanese peace symbol. And there is a huge difference between Hitler appropriating the swastika, which is still used in India ubiquitously, including on the wall of the apartment I am living in currently, taking the word "Aryan" from the Sanskrit language, and using it to his own end, and people continuing to use the Confederate flag, when the very origin of that flag was mired in bigotry and hatred. Horrible analogy.

This is probably cognitive bias, but I have really never seen Steph on interviews or anywhere where she behaves naturally. Corporate, prepared soundbytes; guarded, artificial smile, it's just very weird to watch. She always appears like a corporate bot to me instead of an actual person. That includes the HoF induction speech she gave for Trish.