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This has been a really good discussion. I agree about the gender-neutral naming. Is there any name in the Harry Potter world that is gender-neutral, though? If I ever have kids, they are going to be named after the people in that world. Non-negotiable. Right now, I am leaning towards just naming them Hermione, no matter what set of genitalia they are born with.

If someone had told me 3 years ago that out of the Shield members, one day Roman Reigns would be the best worker, I would have laughed and made that joke that Americans do about selling some seashore property in a desert area. This will sound smug, but the day they had Dean Ambrose running in with a hot dog stand, in an attenpt to give him a memorable segmet on the lines of the beer bath, I was pretty sure that they were going to turn his character into a complete joke. That segment was neither funny nor edgy.

The only reason Jimmy should be banned is because, despite being knowledgeable and intelligent and knowing better, she nearly got Triple H into the top 100. That is unforgivable. That said, she has made some absolutely wonderful posts here. I have interacted with women on wrestling forums before, but no one has written about this issue, and reading her posts have been so eye-opening.

Meltzer's board also happens to be a meeting point of the worst of the dregs of wrestling fans. I have seen them talk about how Austin should have stomped a mudhole in Debra and stunned her. I firmly convinced that 75% of the regular podters there are outright psychopaths.

Vince McMahon would be a better President than Donald Trump. I am sorry, I just can't get over this. WTF, America?

I honestly don't know where to put it, or whether it should be put, but the guy who was stunned by Steve Austin at WM, and who goes about calling all Mexicans rapists and thinks that a formal debate is a good place to talk about his penis size is now presumably the official Presidential nominee of a centuries' old party, a party which boasts of people like Abraham Lincoln as its members. Congrats, America. You are the land of the brave.

I can only speak for myself, but when I became a wrestling fan, while I believed firmly that women and men should be treated equally, I was too young/immature to understand many cases in which they were not treated equally. The disproportionate way in which the bodies and sexual appeal of female wrestlers was focused on compared to the male ones did not then strike me as being unfair. Every divas match would have the commentators, particularly Lawler, drool over them in a way that was very creepy. I think I am actually agreeing with what Steven and others are saying, but am expressing myself terribly, so I guess I won't debate this any further; at least not until I can compose my thoughts. Posting through your mobile is a nightmare, and I have no idea how you people do it.

Feminism is a lot more nuanced than saying women ahould be treated equally to men, although that is its basic premise. Hell, even Donald Trump would agree on the former, a few seconds before he mocks a female reporter for being ugly.

Yes, Steven, but if I had to guess, most of us wrestling fans who also identify ourselves as feminists were wrestling fans first; feminism came later. By that time, we had an emotional connection to wrestling that we might not have had otherwise. Most of us stayed fans and continued watching even after the Benoit tragedy. I am not doing a very good job explaining myself, but my point is that for feminists who have never watched wrestling before, presentation would be a crucial factor. I just have anecdotal evidence, which I gave. In any case, Jimmy is by far the better person to speak on it. Brilliant post, btw. Also, as much as I wish it wasn't true, Indo agree with Parv's point about asshole crowds. We have come a long way from when an audience's idea of insulting a female star was chanting "slut", all the while wildly cheering on Rock for bragging about how much pie he gets every night, but the normal Raw crowd is still a far cry from the usual nXt crowds.

Agreed. I am actually struggling to think of a recent example that comes close to this. People qere convinced as late as a couple of months ago that this was a fluke, and that there was no way they could actually win this.

I agree, fakeplastictrees, and I look forward to reading your article.

There was this time when I tried to make a very good female friend, who identifies herself as a feminist, start following wrestling. She was a bit apprehensive, but she agreed to give it a shot. One of the first thing she watched was a Vickie Guerrero segment/match, where Jerry Lawler constantly kept making fun of her for being fat and ugly. Bear in mind that this was after she had lost a ton of weight, so not only was it nasty and uncalled-for, it was also stupid and nonsensical. She ignored it the first couple of times, but when, in her words, "that creepy old man who thinks it is totally okay to be fat himself but makes fun of women for being fat and not bangeable enough for him" kept doing the same shit every week for quite some time, she tapped out. She said it would have been okay had her weight been a part of some storyline or added purpose to the matches or the segments, but it wasn't; it was just a commentator being an asshole. A babyface commentator, no less, although I don't think she even knew then that colour commentators are often heel. My point is that the presentation of women in wrestling will have to drastically change, at least as far as WWE is concerned, for feminists in general to start becoming fans. Hopefully, Steph gaining more power means that at the very least, in some time the official WWE humour won't be what an out-of-touch 70 year old man thinks is funny.

Some time ago, some big-shot American corporate dude said that it is not a good thing financially for clubs like Leicester to play in the Champions' League; that it would be more prudent if the old powerhouses kept on qualifying. All I have is anecdotal evidence, but here in India, I have never seen as much interest in Football as I have seen in this dream run for the Foxes. Football is pretty popular in India, but this season has been incredible in terms of people talking about it. Speaking of managers, it would be interesting to see who is more polarising: Wenger or Mourinho. Both have rabid fans and sworn haters.

For all intents and purposes, this is like that time when Santino almost won the world title. Except Leicester have actually won the world title.

Honestly, the comments on the Dylan Cena > 4 Pillars video is much better than I expected. I went in there expecting that someone was going to call him an overgrown kid or a fucking faggot or shit like that.

DMJ, not trying to be a dick at all, but I am curious about you ranking Rock at 7, over many, many other extremely acconplished WWE/WCW workers. Do you think that highly of his brief run?

I don't remember where I saw a thread like this, but it was really entertaining. When I say "everything", I mean it. Other wrestling angles, TV show season endings, movies, life, world wars, Biblical stories, historical events, anything. Michael Corleone goes to a meeting with Virgil Solozzo, secretly intending to kill him. But when he goes to the bathroom, there is no gun. *SWERVE* Clemenza is a traitor! He turns behind to see The Turk smiling at him. "You thought you coild double-cross me, kid?" He draws out a knife, intending to make a statement out of Mikey. But he is shot from behind by the crooked police captain, who *SWERVE* is not just on the Corleone family's side, but is also Michael's lover. They start making out, and by chance Kay Adams sees them. Traumatised, she kills herself, but not before stripping naked, because we must have a objectifying scene right before some violence against a woman.

I don't remember where I saw a thread like this, but it was really entertaining. When I say "everything", I mean it. Other wrestling angles, TV show season endings, movies, life, world wars, Biblical stories, historical events, anything. Michael Corleone goes to a meeting with Virgil Solozzo, secretly intending to kipp jim. But when he goes to the bathroom, there is no gun. *SWERVE* Clemenza is a traitor! He turns behind to see the Turk smiling at him. "You thought you coild double-cross me, kid?" He draws out a knife, intending to make a statement out of Mikey. But he is shot from behind bynthe crooked police captain, who *SWERVE* is not just on the Corleone family's side, but is also Michael's lover. They start making out, and by chance Kay Adams sees them. Traumatised, she kills herself, but not before stripping naked, because we must have a objectifying scene right before some violence against a woman.

I want to, but I lost my back-up. Can I retrieve it from the GWE google doc in any way?

Ah, putting over a young talent like Bryan, underrated legends like Funk and Misawa, but ultimately winning and staying the champ. This is like a perfect allegory of a Ric Flair feud.

Number 3 today, please! Any wait longer than the absolute minimum is torture!

Dolph Ziggler. How in the world he became an internet favourite I do not know. When you sell a chop and a Tombstone Piledriver on steel steps that have been put on fire the same way, you are not a great wrestler.* *Some parts of it may or may not have been embellished.

Misawa continuing to kick out at 2.9999 and showing the young pretenders that he's still the ace.

Doesn't matter how many threads on here I lurk, I'll never in my life understand how or why Rey's offense was better than HBK's or Bret's. Shawn was an undersized babyface who had offence that was often shown to be at parity with his bigger opponents when it came to power. There are ways of doing that properly, but Shawn didn't. Rey was someone who used his size, which should have been a detriment in Vince's company, and turned it into a massive advantage. Every aspect of his offence emphasized his quickness and agility. He didn't engage in a punch-out when he fought Kane. I also do not see how Rey's offence did not look legit. Neither do I see why his punches being bad matters, since his punches were never a significant part of his arsenal.

Really happy for Rey-Rey. I had Kawada over him, but I am thrilled that Misawa-san made the top 5. He never seems to get as much praise and discussion as his illustrious compatriots. Bryan's placing is awesome as well.