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He can't deny it cuz he knows it's the truth

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It also struck me that HOOK actually is smaller than Jungle Boy, but actually looks more menacing and feels more dangerous.

Really liked this episode of Dynamite, not as good as last week's but still great. The finish of Jungleboy-Brian Cage was a bit botched, but the post-match made up for it. Also not sure what MJF and Starks were trying to do on the couple of powerbomb spots, felt a little botched, but overall the match was great. Hopefully Dragon brings out something deeper in MJF, the way Punk had. His promo this week was average tbh, and it was quite ironic to listen to him talk about Starks rambling and "taking his time" to get to the point, when in fact, right in that promo, he took like 15 minutes to come to the point, which was not much of a point at all. I feel MJF tries to cosplay Rock (and Flair) a lot more than Starks does.

Don't think he was acting there or fake crying at all. The concussion was real and so were his emotions. And as we have seen, before TK botched his title reign to an unimaginable extent, the audience absolutely bought into his character and its arc, and all his emotions. Him and Omega drew some of the highest quarters in AEW history after all.Hopefully he goes over Mox and they start rehabbing him after butchering all his heat on interminably long feuds with midcarders like Adam Cole.

We should compare the FTR-Briscoes trilogy with other trilogies in wrestling history, including Flair-Steamboat. I think FTR-Briscoes 3 was the greatest match of their trilogy, something you cannot confidently say about Flair-Steamboat, either in 1984 or in 1989, cuz the third is usually considered inferior to both the 2/3 falls Clash match as well as the Chi-Town match. This FTR-Briscoes Double dog collar match was genuinely the best though in their trilogy though. It was the match of the year for me.

Might be the best TV worker in the world today, and certainly one of the top contenders for the same in the last 2-3 years. Along with PAC, he is one of the very very few high flyers who makes it look like his shit genuinely hurts his opponents. He feels like he is genuinely using his body as a weapon with his high flying, unlike a lot of other high flyers, who look like they are executing athletic feats and stunt moves. There is a feeling of violence that emanates from him, something that does not happen with others of his ilk, and also which cannot possibly be beneficial for his health. Also quite underrated as a mat worker, I believe he has some amateur wrestling credentials, which might have something to do with it

The fact that TK could not get a TV deal for ROH makes AEW's existence even more impressive. The fact that AEW was able to get off the ground and be as successful as it is is surreal. Anthem needed to literally buy a channel to keep Impact running, and we all saw ROH had no luck despite Dynamite regularly being a feature of WBD's press releases. Hopefully, this means the end of ROH storylines occupying a giant bulk of AEW TV's time. As far as this PPV is concerned, the FTR-Briscoes match might just be the match of the year for me. If I had to rank their matches, I would go with 3>1>2, but all three were tremendous. It's genuinely hilarious to me that some Elite fans on Twitter want FTR to be gone from AEW just cuz FTR Bald is passive aggressive on Twitter and talks to Corny. They are massively over, although not as over as they were a few months back, and they have had some of the best matches of the year across the board. But oh no, Bald is an idiot on Twitter (unlike the Bucks and Omega, who famously are so mature and graceful on social media), so TK should fire their ass.

I thought that was an excellent match tbh, best of the night and for me, far better than the trios match - but then the latter was not worked in a style that I like. Can you blame him for being checked out though, the man was supposed to be on vacation early September, and he has had to keep working for reasons completely unrelated to his own self.

I know some brothers here don't like him, but Mox really is the heart and soul of this promotion

Very disappointed by Becky Lynch's numbers. To me she is a sureshot HOFer for historical influence and drawing alone, as has been shown very well by @ethantyler in this thread. I understand the argument that it might be too soon for her, but 20% is way too low. Edge and Randy Orton, guys who were never the top star in WWE the way Becky arguably was in 2019, got far more votes than Becky, as did the Hardy Boyz, which is crazy to me.

Beat OC for the All-Atlantic title and then beat up fools every week on one of their shows. They have plenty of veterans and good hands who can be used for that, in both promotions owned by TK. Also book him in fun hoss battles and champ v. champ matches - both Joe and Wardlow will probably have titles by the time he returns, the big lads boys can then fight. Eventually put over Ricky Starks or Powerhouse Hobbs to help elevate them into a permanent upper card fixture.

They might compete in the heavyweight division, but they are not heavyweights. I thought the original point was that the smaller wrestlers are always more "technical" (agreed about it being a gimmick though) than the big lads, so we were trying to find a bigger guy to compare Regal with. It's why I mentioned Josh Barnett.

None of them are proper heavyweights though

I was going to mention Thatcher as a possible candidate for best technical heavyweight of the past 30 years, although it's a different grappling style. I know some who also rate Barnett very highly

MJF definitely didn't try to steamroll him the way a lot of heels in the past 20 years have tended to do, but compared to Starks' organic energy, he came off a bit like a tryhard

I have the opposite opinion, I thought Starks sort of made MJF look..not phony, but hollow and unserious, as the kids say these days. I might agree that MJF's delivery was more polished, something that comes with experience, as you pointed out, but overall Starks felt more organic, more genuine, and just left a much bigger impact on me. Yes, he did ramble a bit, but so did a lot of legendary promos in pro wrestling history, including the guy MJF compared Starks to - seriously, go watch some of Rock's 1997 promos after he had just turned heel and joined the NoD, he would be all over the place - and I didn't feel it detracted from his promo at all. In fact, it made him feel more natural and passionate, made me want to see him win more. This also made me think that MJF would do well not to get into a similar promo battle with Eddie Kingston during his title reign. King has all the qualities I spoke of above, and also has a lot of experience cutting live promos on TV. MJF would get massacred imo if they went head to head like this. MJF has come a long way and is much better than he was when he first engaged in a promo battle with CM Punk - where he rambled quite a bit, and Punk was obviously far more polished - but he still isn't as good a promo as Kingston is.

I personally think it's Kairi. No way does WWE let Sasha go without a lengthy non-compete, they would be foolish to do so

They did, the rules have been tweaked this time apparently. I thought this was a tremendous episode of Dynamite, capped off by an excellent main event. For me, FTR-Briscoes 3 (and a double dog collar match to boot!) is the clear main event for this ROH PPV, and I am very excited to see how they try and top their previous matches.

This was for the diamond ring that MJF wears/carries. Starks if he wins will also get the ring along with the belt.

This show has ruled so far

An absolutely crazy, amazing match. Really wish they had built it a bit more, and not just with a quick 2-min video clip

Darby is a crazy man

Also, I just saw an ad on my TV that said Dark and Elevation will now air in India, so while TK has not been booking well lately, he has clearly been making deals to make more money

So glad they finally gave Starks an open mic. He is a star, and he really showed up MJF tbh. MJF's shtick felt exposed in comparison to Starks, who came across as authentic and a genuine superstar in the making