C.S.

Learned the wrong lessons from Jericho's comedy gimmick?

These PPVs would be a lot less bloated without the commercials and endless recap clips (save that shit for the DVDs/Blu-rays, guys!)

There are commercials on this PPV, so kudos to whoever predicted that was coming.

I think we agree more than disagree. If they were going to give Tozawa the title, and they did, they should've run with it. Otherwise, Neville should've kept the title and uninterrupted reign. What we got instead was some half-baked compromise that benefits nobody. This is my guess, even though it makes no sense to me after Miz dismantled Jordan so cleanly and completely. :\

Then why change the title in the first place, Thread?

Why bother with a six-day Lex Luger reign? WHY?

Considering how long and laborious some of these shows are to get through, that may not be such a bad thing after all.

Jordan has been a massive flop thus far.

It's ridiculous that this is a 5+ hour show, but the Intercontinental Title isn't being defended - instead, we're getting a useless Miztourage vs. Hardys/Jason Jordan match on the pre-show. Also, I'm surprised WWE didn't make more of a big deal out of the "30-year anniversary" (even though that's technically next year) with this being the 30th annual SummerSlam. What an underwhelming lineup for the big 30th show. BTW, have the Hardys been wearing different colors for a while and I just haven't noticed, or is this the first time?

Best show of the year? That was awesome! Like Dragon said, the main event was the worst match and it was still good.

Fire Linda.

LOL at this trolling tweet... Baron Corbin‏ @BaronCorbinWWE 4h4 hours ago Replying to @WrestlingNewsCo What matches and promos has Dave meltzer done. Ohh none! He is a old man who could never do what anyone on the roster can or could. https://twitter.com/BaronCorbinWWE/status/895773416879423498 Responses: Mike Gilbert‏ @GetUpMike 3h3 hours ago Replying to @BaronCorbinWWE @WrestlingNewsCo Uncle Dave is more respected in wrestling than you will ever be. Baron Corbin‏ @BaronCorbinWWE 3h3 hours ago Respected by who. Losers like you with a profile pic in a high school gym Indy show.

Everyone: Save yourself the trouble of watching this horrid preview video and giving RF hits - just read the transcript instead: http://wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/2017/0809/629943/simon-gotch-on-enzo-amore-being-a-detriment-to-wrestlers/

I watched the Gotch shoot preview video last night. What a fucking mess! 1. Choppy as hell, and cuts off in the middle of a sentence (I get that they want you to buy the video to hear the whole story, but still). 2. Has that hideous RF Video background that would be like nails on a chalkboard to watch for two hours. On a positive note, Gotch seems like a cool guy who would be fun to listen to - something that didn't come across at all on NXT/WWE TV - and he has one of the better Dusty Rhodes impressions I've heard.

As some old-time 'rassler might say, "Enzo Amore drew more money than Simon Gotch, so that makes Enzo a better worker...brother." And I agree. I'd rather watch Enzo any day of the week than Gotch. Reason being: I actually care about what Enzo's doing. Nothing Gotch does matters to me because the character never mattered to me. The Vaudevillians had a cool entrance though! Sure, you can say the same about Enzo's pre-match rap, but at least I cared about Enzo after that was all said and done. Where is this extended Gotch promo anyway? I don't want to put a cent in RF's pocket either, but no harm in watching a free preview.

Am I the only one who thinks it sucks that Jordan will be at SummerSlam but Gable (probably) won't be? At this point, I wouldn't mind an underdog team of Gable and Enzo. (Enzo would have to switch brands, but after being thrown off the bus by Roman Reigns, a change of scenery is probably best for all involved.)

More on the stripper story mentioned above: Crazy series of tweets from a stripper who claimed Enzo was full of himself and high on weed. I have no idea if any of this is true, but holy shit... https://twitter.com/KikiBeeTard/status/891283672606924801

Beautifully said, Thread Killer.

More on HoHo's release: http://www.wwe.com/shows/wwenxt/article/hoho-lun-interview-departing-wwe

Oh, you guys... BTW, it looks like HoHo Lun personally requested the release because of a family situation. That makes perfect sense to me, because if you're WWE, you don't let go of a major league talent like HoHo Lun - not in this lifetime or any other. http://wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/2017/0804/629805/why-wwe-released-nxt-wrestler/ Seriously though, I did like HoHo and thought his backstory was pretty cool (he essentially introduced professional wrestling to his country, which is fucking awesome if you ask me). I even downloaded him in Fire Pro Wrestling World. He and Akira Tozawa had quite a classic match with The "Don't Call Us Bullet" Club. Bryan and Finn weren't in the match - they were just at ringside to support their respective teams. I've since swapped out that Tozawa for one that looks better.

I didn't listen to the podcast - I only read excerpts - but Bully Ray passively believing their bullshit really smacks of ridiculous enabling behavior to me, not to mention exploitative by having them on in the first place. Bully Ray is not exactly the most well-reasoned guy around though - he goes on tirades against "marks" on Twitter and then lashes out and whines when he gets his own bullshit shoved back in his face. He strikes me as a typical "can dish it out but can't take it" jackass. Makes sense, then, that he'd be simpatico with Alberto.

Uh...what possible dream match would have involved HoHo Lun? HoHo vs. Xanta Claus? The Godfather vs. HoHo? Both excellent suggestions, my friend! I'll add to it: - HoHo vs. Mojo - HoHo vs. Enzo - HoHo vs. Show Man, someone really should start a thread like that Triple H one about dream matches for HoHo Lun - I could see it going 40 pages, easily.

Speaking of dream matches (we'll now never get), HoHo Lun - of CWC fame - has been released from NXT. His last appearance was a loss to Velveteen Dream.

According to Karen Jarrett, they were "playing their characters." I'm not sure who does that in a bar, or why, but there you go. Sounds like made-up BS to me, but who knows. http://www.wrestlinginc.com/wi/news/2017/0802/629741/karen-jarrett-talks-her-bar-incident-with-braun-strowman/

Another solid Bring It To The Table. (Am I the only one here watching that?) The stuff about Enzo being thrown off the bus and having heat was confirmed. JBL admitted that everyone who was in past situations like that - with the exception of The Miz - "never made it." What a shame if one of their most charismatic personalities and talkers ends up future endeavored in a year. Cass is never going to be a top guy, no matter what, so splitting them up was such a big mistake.