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Don't know if I'd call her my favorite part, but she was a lot better than I expected - and a lot better than most people are giving her credit for. Because she's not Mrs. Wrestling II, everyone wants to shit all over her. Give me an entertaining character who can do the basics well and I'll prefer that to an indy rasslin' ROH flippity floppity ...diver every time.

I'm halfway through the series, and while this isn't quite as good as some of Netflix's best series (Stranger Things, One Day at a Time, Grace and Frankie, etc.), it's still pretty damn good. Hope it doesn't get cancelled after 2-3 seasons.

If you mean Bully Ray, he's absolutely awful now and has been for a while. Cody doesn't particularly excite me either, but given the choice between him and the stale Bully Ray, I'd pick Cody every time.

Maria and Mike appeared on Smackdown during a commercial. Are they already DOA?

After watching the Enzo and Cass segment, I will admit it was incredibly effective. Cass showed new personality and fire, and Enzo straight up earned an Emmy with his tears (which - let's face it - were probably real, because he knows Test 2.0 has a rocket strapped to his back while his own future is a lot more uncertain). With that said, I still don't think it was a good idea. They're leaving a lot money on the table IMO. Enzo and Cass could have been a beloved tag team for years to come. Will they ever be The Revival? No. But they could have easily been the New Age Outlaws. Fret all you want, but the NAO had major success!

Cass turning on Enzo is such a terrible idea.

I hated most of the booking, yet this was a more enjoyable show to me than the last few PPVs. Despite bad finishes, it was a fun PPV that didn't feel like a 5-hour slog to get through.

If someone told me Maria came out with Heath Slater, I would've believed them.

What the hell are Maria and Mike Kanellis supposed to be?

Lana was much better than I was expecting, and that's not just the outfit talking.

One of the worst finishes in a year filled with bad ones. Just brutal.

Sam Roberts is an idiot if he said that. Way to bury Nakamura.

I can believe that Hogan would at least be aware of Dustin. He grew up in Florida and was a major Dusty fan. I wonder how long Vince had the Goldust idea in mind, and whether that was included in the Hogan vs. Dustin pitch.

From the recap on PWPodcasts.com: "Bruce mentions that Hogan did not want to work with Dustin Rhodes in the early ’90s. He says Hogan didn’t think he was in the greatest of shape at the time nor did he have high-profile status. Conrad calls BS on this and says Hogan was threatened by Dustin’s youth and family legacy." This immediately stuck me as strange. WHEN would this have happened? (Dustin's brief WWF stint? Dustin's WCW stunt? Goldust era?) WHY would it have happened? Assuming they're not referring to Dustin's stint as Goldust (was Hogan even still around then?), what purpose would such a match/feud serve when both were white meat babyfaces? I'm going only by the recap and not the actual podcast, so maybe specific dates are mentioned there? Conrad's suggestion that Hogan was threatened by Dustin seems like a real whopper to me. I know we're all huge fans of Dustin, but come on now! Does anyone remember hearing anything about this back in the day in the Observer, Torch, etc.?

Exactly. Adam Rose, sure. Bayley, no way. How do you screw up the best babyface you've had in years? By WWE being WWE, that's how. Thanks for the HHH quote. Now that you've posted it, I think I remember it from the Orton DVD. I realize what Rosenberg's role is, and he can say whatever he wants, but it felt strange to me - even though I do agree. If he really wanted to "speak for the fans," he would've said that Orton was in the WWE ecosystem from day one and has never had to get over outside those protected confines. That's also an accurate statement (even though I agreed with a lot of what Orton said during the "...dive" tweets).

I still feel the NXT higher-ups realized that James Storm was too Southern, too indy, too rasslin', for NXT and quietly decided not to use him but let him save face by making it look like his decision. I have no proof of this or anything - it's just a gut feeling on my part - but it wouldn't surprise me if I'm right because he was not a good fit at all during his one NXT appearance.

Another solid Bring It To The Table. Some of the more notable comments/moments for me were: - JBL compared Bayley's recent "fall from grace" to Glenn Jacobs misfiring as Isaac Yankem and Fake Diesel before finally hitting it big as Kane. That seemed really out of touch to me, because Bayley was over like gangbusters in NXT. He also said that what may work in one place may not work in another. If NXT acts don't work in WWE, what is the fucking point of NXT? All of that "THIS IS AWESOME!!!" bullshit they do over there is absolutely meaningless if it doesn't translate to the main roster. - When "...dive" came up, Peter Rosenberg said that Randy Orton "doesn't always leave it all in the ring." WTF? While I'm not disagreeing, who the hell is he to say that? Rosenberg tried to claim that Triple H implied it once, which may be so, but I don't remember that. Wouldn't surprise me if this becomes an issue shortly between Rosenberg and the hotheaded Orton. I'd be pissed if I were Randy. - In the same segment, Graves defended the high-flying style of people like Will Ospraey and Richochet and the "evolution" of the business while admitting that Buddy Rogers bores him...wow. JBL, as you'd expect, took the opposite stance. - JBL buried Kevin Owens by saying the Universal Title didn't have credibility until Brock won it because Finn got injured and then the title played hot potato from KO to Goldberg (even though KO held the title for months). Poor KO. - Dean Ambrose was also buried - by Graves, who said nothing interesting happened when Dean was I-C Champ. True, but damn! Is that Ambrose's fault or the writers' though? Ambrose seemed super-unmotivated for sure, but he wasn't exactly given much to work with either.

I picked Miz then and would pick him now. My rant about "women are not draws" has obviously not aged well, but the fact is, they weren't draws when I posted that. They were never put into a position to draw back then. They have been now. As great as Charlotte has been, Miz is on another level entirely. He's on fire.

I could not agree with you more. I never saw the big deal with Crews when he got to NXT. His work was bland and unremarkable and he had the infuriating habit of grinning like an idiot 90% of the time. I'll never forget after he was called up, I forget who it was, but somebody attacked him backstage and beat him down, left him lying in a heap. A couple of segments later, out comes Apollo Crews who is not only NOT selling any injuries from the attack, but he's still got the big ass, shit-eating grin plastered across his face. I don't know about you, but if somebody kicked the shit out of me and left me in a heap, I'd likely still be a little put out by it 15 minutes later. I assume somebody in creative on the main roster liked him because of his big muscles. There might be those who say "at least he has big muscles" but I tend to think no...at most he's got big muscles. I'll be a little kinder: When Crews debuted, his ring work exceeded my expectations, as I was honestly expecting Ahmed Johnson or a WWE-era Bobby Lashley based on his look. With that said, that doesn't mean I think he's amazing in the ring or anything, and has absolutely nothing else going for him - no character, no personality, no reason to give a shit at all. Unfortunately for him, "muscle guy who smiles" isn't a character. As for the Raw segment, it wouldn't surprise me if the backstage attack was filmed earlier and the smiley Crews segment was live. In that case, the blame would be on WWE's production staff, not Crews. Or did Crews actually mention the attack when he came out smiling like an idiot? Apparently, Apollo Crews and Akira Tozawa are best friends in real life. WWE could do worse than put them together as an odd couple tag team. I wouldn't mind seeing that, and maybe their real-life chemistry (assuming they have any) will bleed into their characters? I have to disagree: I think NXT would've made a world of difference for Gallows and Anderson. Other than the early Bullet Club teaser stuff they did with AJ, they haven't been interesting as characters or in the ring. Like Crews, we still don't know who they are and have been been given zero reason to give a shit about them at all. It's a shame, because they apparently have great personalities (as seen on Ride Along and other appearances of that nature).

Great post, Thread Killer. I'm not convinced the WWE didn't originally have plans for The Ascension though. They were booked strongly in the beginning and even scored a clean, decisive victory over Attitude Era legends the New Age Outlaws. The problem was, they went from having a unique look in NXT to becoming bad Road Warriors knockoffs the minute they showed up on Raw, and they didn't get over as a result. Also, they really weren't ever that good, which didn't help. The Vaudevillians, I think, were always going to be a lost cause on the main roster. Simon Botch's botching and supposed backstage attitude probably didn't help though. Apollo Crews never, ever should have been called up from NXT. He wasn't over with the "THIS IS AWESOME!" Full Sail smarks, so what on earth made them think he'd fare better on the main roster? As of now, he still has no personality, no character, nothing that defines him. He needed another year at least in NXT and I still think he should be sent back down there. Breeze, I agree, was botched on the main roster, but he was never used as anything other than a glorified JTTS in NXT, so we realistically shouldn't have expected anything more. But he did beat Dolph Ziggler when that still meant something, so I'm not sure what happened? Maybe his mismatched pairing with Summer Rae hurt him? Such a shame, because he's really good and deserves better. Hopefully now he's finally getting it.

This made me think of your post. KayfabeNews.com: Rollins’ parents insist his middle name is Todd, not Freakin’

Bret Hart becoming the WWF Champion. An "undersized" midcard and tag guy winning the big one? It was unheard of in the WWF of that era! Runner-up goes to Diesel becoming WWF Champion and ending Bob Backlund's reign after only three days. Despite Diesel's WWF success up to that point, memories of Vinnie Vegas losing to everyone in WCW were still fresh in my mind. I think both of them were especially shocking because they were rare house show title changes. The Undertaker defeating Hogan at Survivor Series '91 has to be right up there too. But as soon as that evil Canadian dictator Jack Tunney announced a rematch for This Tuesday in Texas, I knew the "fix" was in. (I was not a Hulkamaniac, even then!)

It wasn't Kennel from Hell or anything, but I expected a lot more. Maybe that's unfair for a pre-show, but I've seen other really good pre-show matches. This one was "just there" IMO.

I thought it was horribly disappointing. Zero chemistry between them. Titus was the star, which I imagine is not what they wanted. (Or maybe they did?) Kalisto had much better matches with Ryback on pre-shows a year or two ago. Apollo can't be classified as anything other than a massive failure at this point. Nothing they've done with him has worked. It still boggles my mind that he was ever called up from NXT when he couldn't even connect with the Full Sail "THIS IS AWESOME!" crowd.