dawho5
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Landell really brought it with this promo, then immediately asked Horner how it was going. Whatever deficiencies may exist in the in-ring product in SMW, the promos are absolute gold. Except most of the babyfaces.
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Both of the heels here are absolutely incredible. Ron Wright has been a revalation so far.
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Was Cornette cutting a promo or making a campaign speech for his run at being a congressman? Who can tell? Great stuff though and I loved Pritchard's knee drops during the clip.
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I would fully agree with perfect for the time and place. And I would add that Lawler's statement that he could be wrestling just about anywhere but chooses to be in Memphis was one of the most perfect parts of it. That crowd (and the Tennessee audience) was going to buy that 100%. And I don't know that he could be wrestling anywhere, but he definitely could be somewhere else making more money.
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I loved the promo, he should be taunting Lawler with stuff like that. Does me being North Dakotan make me a hick by Gilbert's logic? One great thing about Gilbert/Lawler as a feud is both have legitimate beefs with the other that shine through. Jerry doesn't like that Eddie wants to be him, which is natural. And Eddie resents not being able to be the man in his hometown. I am with the two above me who say that there will be no clean finish here.
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This was one of the best non-Savage, Flair or Jake WWF promos in a long, long time. The mic caught my eye too on the awesome jacket. Looking forward to more Razor.
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The first half of 1992 has had a lot of wrestlecrap stuff. Shango is probably helped by Gene doing most of his promo for him. I thought Gene did great with the ooze or whatever it was.
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On rewatch I can't say my opinion has changed much. This match is all kinds of ridiculous amazing. While I was watching I was wondering why there isn't more pro wrestling like this. Then I answered myself with the realization that Ishikawa and Ikeda had to be beat to shit after this, especially Ishikawa. Otsuka too. The other three were out a little earlier, but my guess would be everyone took their lumps. -
I liked how Kobashi and Taue were the guys who mattered at the finish. Sure Misawa and Jumbo were looking out for their guys, but Taue earned that win. And Kobashi looked great in lasting as long as he did.
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On this watching I really appreciated how much Hansen's work on the leg puts Kawada over. A year ago he wouldn't have needed king on Kawada's leg to weaken him. Now Kawada is that much of a threat. Not as memorable as their super-intense brawls, but great in a more traditional sense and very big in putting Kawada over. Without Hansen and Jumbo gradually making these guys look better and better we would not look on this period of AJPW or the 4 Pillars the way we do.
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I have been playing around with Fire Pro World for a while and I have hit on the one thing that is missing from every "fighting" wrestling game ever. Transitions. It's always a strike or a grapple. If there is a knockdown you do an elbow drop/whatever or submission that lasts so long and reset. There is no flow to the next move, like say a guy who is in a weardown armbar on the ground gets up (if their defense succeds, lets say) and the attacker still has the armbar. Maybe the next thing that happens is a whip to the ropes, maybe the attacker manages to get it back down to the mat. Or maybe the attacker transitions into something else from the original armbar before the escape. Things like that contribute to a match in a lot of ways and it just doesn't exist in the games people have made about pro wrestling. Part of that is all of these games are made as "fighting games" where you are always trying only to win. Having an entertaining match (or even better, one with a good story) is less than an afterthought.
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I will agree with the fun touring match comments. Nothing really big, but good and entertaining. Shawn bumping around for Bret is fun with a couple of too-overdone bumps thrown in. They both end up making the other look great regardless of the outcome, so mission accomplished.
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Clearly a match to give a green Tiger Kanemoto some experience against guys who knew their trade. The one dive was HUGE for sure, but I'm not into Kanemoto as TM yet.
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I like the old school matwork, but after the finish I am a little puzzled by the need to take that long for fall 1. Did they not know how much time they had? J.R> & Rachtman for the most part work really well together and I wouldn't mind seeing Rachtman back. One good thing about the slow mat wrestling is that it gives JR a chance to really shine on commentary. He is at his absolute best when calling a scientific mat wrestling match. I get why Brad never got past the midcard despite the skillset. I do recall a match where he was playing heel in a costume and showed a ton of personality though. maybe he needed a weird masked gimmick to get him to the next level.
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AA with a great, great down-to-earth promo on Sting. Please tell me that match made tape!
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I noticed Jesse and Tony have way better chemistry than Jesse and J.R. right away. The tournament being sponsored by Super Nintendo made my day. Dustin is super polished for a guy around a year in. I know he grew up around the business, but he is really really good. Rude helps a lot by being such a giving heel. Great match and it is a shame WCW has been mismanaging storylines as we reach mid-1992. The in-ring product at the top is incredible.
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FYI the reason the save took so long was because the bus the other 3 babyfaces were on was running a little late. Nothing match due to no time even though Horner is best in the ring doing his proto-cruiserweight/southern brawler thing. And I think the beatdown may have been longer.
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I was thinking the same about instant replay. Would have certainly worked in this instance Bob. Also, if the decision is final why is Landell forced to put the 5k on the line? Seems like the decision is anything but final. Good promo by Landell, Hell with gasoline drawers on sounds awful.
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It's hard to think of Eddie Gilbert as too much of a heel given that he seems to be right about most of what he complains about. Really good promo though.
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Tell me we are running out of these.
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Good and violent (strange for WWF TV), but way, way too long. Even if those suits don't want to get in the ring and mix it up with the guy they would have to do something resembling their job. Not only that, why would Nailz not even change out of the convict uniform before coming to the taping? I did catch J. J. Dillon (JoJo?) at ringside.
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I am in with the good, not great rating on it. It can't compare to the earlier tag at all. This match does illustrate why I think this is the best era of AJPW wrestling-wise. The crowd reactions area absolutely amazing and every matchup has it's own dynamic. Waht's better is that every wrestler seems 100% of what that dynamic is with everyone else and they play their roles in it so well. Kikuchi's role does get a little old on repetition and it's probably why he became so much less prominent once Jumbo is out of the picture. As Loss mentioned, Jumbo/Kikuchi is such a great mini-feud within these matches. With better offense over time I think Kikuchi could have continued being relevant. I do wonder if his body started to maybe break down a little early due to the sheer amount of punishment though.
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The mention of Super Soakers caught me off-guard too. ESPN carried this promotion? Anyway, Booker is really advanced for having never seen him before.
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This is in my top 10 matches of all time, has been since I saw it the first time. I love me a good southern tag and this is probably the best version of that match ever. Also, as a first wrestling match for the day it is pretty damn sweet! There are a handful of matches where Kikuchi is at his absolute best and looks like he could weather whatever kinds of sick, murderous bumps or torturous holds come his way and keep fighting back effectively no matter what. And of course garner as much sympathy as humanly possible. This happens to be one of them and it kind of makes the match. I think the thing that works for me about this match is that it takes a really simple narrative structure like the southern tag and puts a ridiculous good workrate match on top of it while staying true to that form. The fact that Kroffat and Kobashi are in it is no surprise, since both are tremendous workrate guys who understand how to work that into the narrative of the match. And you have one of the all-time FIP candidates (Kikuchi) to keep that crowd molten hot all the way through. As well as the previously mentioned team dynamic that Kobashi and Kikuchi have. So many factors converge to make this a really, really great match even if it is not exactly "King's Road style". Which, by the way, was a thing of later years (maybe end of '93 or middle of '94 on) and, honestly, I think AJPW from 91-92 is better than the "King's Road" matches in terms of consistent match quality. As a postscript, matches like this are a very big part of why Kobashi will continue to go to the moonsault late-match years later. One part of AJPW booking I have always loved.
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These are 4 amazing athletes. They cut a ridiculous pace from beginning to end and it is certainly fun and really well-executed for what it is. I also enjoyed the Hasegawa/Yoshida pairing. That giant swing is really beyond description. I've been watching Dragon Gate matches of late (trying to get a feel for the modern variants of things I used to like) and I have to say that DG owes more to this style of wrestling than it does to the NJ juniors. It's not near as focused as this either, even if the highspots are just as or more breathtaking.