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Sami is the first guy to be in the exact position in my list as he is on the countdown
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I've been watching 1994 Raws, and found the exact same thing with Michaels: as a heel, he's really uninspired at controlling matches. Even his jobber squashes are really lacklustre, even compared to the likes of Adam Bomb and heel Crush. Great thread BTW, looking forward to reading more
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I didn't even know it was a guilty pleasure until I started going online, but Tom Zenk. As someone who got into wrestling through watching WCW Worldwide on ITV in the early 90's, Tom Zenk pretty quickly became my favourite wrestler. He was the quintessential babyface wrestler, adorned in bright colours, high-flying, virtuous and always trying his best, often in vain as the Z-Man would eat a lot of 3-counts. Zenk is the face of my childhood Saturday afternoon, and here's the thing: I still think he's great. Watching back old WCW, he's still loads of fun to watch in the ring. He's that perfect size where he can be the power worker of the Lightheavyweight division or the undersized underdog against Dangerous Alliance members in the midcard. If I wasn't online, I'd be shocked to learn how derided he is, and I maintain that he's a terrific wrestler.
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Kerry is my first to fall in the top 100, though he was only the 3rd highest Von Erich on my list
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I think for a lot of people this is one of the key reason's they find watching Benoit hard. The last Benoit match I properly sat down and watched was vs Regal at No Mercy 06. There's a point where Benoit bloodies Regal's forehead with a series of straight headbutts where the knowledge of what happens less than 12 months later makes it too unpleasant to watch.
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Who are the Top 10 CHOPPERS of all time?
NotJayTabb replied to JerryvonKramer's topic in Pro Wrestling
Big Show is the first guy I thought of. He really makes his mean something...he incapacitates his opponent in the corner, shushes the crowd, moves any garment of clothing that could soften the blow, then clobbers them with a hand that's nearly as big as his opponents entire chest. Like getting hit with a snow shovel -
Here's the No Mercy match with Kennedy you mentioned. Short version: Logical match let down by Kennedy not being a very interesting wrestler The Undertaker vs Mr Kennedy Slightly hard to find the Undertaker as intimidating as usual as his fake tan starts running down his head at the start of the match. Taker starts working over the arm of Kennedy early, with him hoisting Kennedy up in the air by the arm being particularly impressive. Kennedy manages to block Old School by armdragging Taker off the top. Kennedy's selling of the arm is remarkably consistent, though he does try punching Taker with the bad arm which leads to Taker Flatlining him. In the midst of all the arm-offence, Kennedy manage's to take a turnbuckle pad off. When he does get on offence, Kennedy is nicely vicious, but makes the mistake of trying to get his breath back, giving Taker time to regain control. You get the impression Kennedy is putting in some real effort here, knowing what an opportunity this match is. Certainly, he seems a lot less half-arsed as he has done in recent years. Problem is that when Kennedy is on offense, it's a bit dull. His offence here is mainly based around kicks and hammering Taker in the corner. It's done with intent, but doesn't exactly enthrall the audience or myself. Piledriver from Kennedy (daftly called a Tombstone by Michael Cole) gets 2, and Kennedy reacts by pounding Taker in the face in frustration. It's like he's really selling the story of the match well (cocky upstart desperate to beat legend), but his offence isn't good enough to match up. In the middle of his hottest spell of offence, he puts on a resthold and the match cools down again. Taker hits a chokeslam, but Kennedy is able to reverse the Last Ride and ram Taker's head into that exposed turnbuckle. I'd forgotten all about that, which made for a nice little surprise. Swanton Bomb gets two for Kennedy. Kennedy tries to nail Taker with the US title, but Taker blocks it and uses it on Kennedy instead, giving Kennedy the DQ win. All that for such a shitty finish. Really out of nowhere considering Taker had just done the zombie situp and looked ready to win. Story of the match was better than the work within.
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I didn't rank Benoit. For me, I wanted to revisit and rewatch everyone I voted to ensure a fair ballot, and I simply don't want to revisit Benoit's matches. I've watched a few since 2007, and every time I've found it impossible to watch them without instantly thinking about the murders. Both the GWE and wrestling in general are supposed to be fun, something I enjoy watching. Watching Benoit's matches take away that sense of enjoyment for me, so he didn't make my ballot. Also, just wanted to defend Big Daddy after he was listed with other wrestlers who'd accidentally killed someone. King Kong Kirk had a pre-existing heart condition that killed him, not Daddy. In fact, the inquest fully absolved Crabtree of any responsibility, so Big Daddy didn't kill anybody.
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Grey and Larry take a hit from my list. Saw Grey live vs Mal Sanders in a WoS showcase match back in 2005, and I really wish that it could've been 2016 me watching it rather than 2005 me, who enjoyed the match but didn't have the "Oh fuck, I'm seeing Steve Grey live" factor that I would do now
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It's even worse for the WoS guys now that Jones falls. We're looking at Breaks and probably only Breaks. i imagine Grey goes in the next 20. I can see Saint making the 100 too
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I assumed Karl's post was directed to Jackwebb
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My ballot took a big hit in the last 24 hours, with Davey Boy, Fiera, Henry, Necro, Ogawa, Sasaki and Psychosis all falling. 71 of my lads left, though the all-important top 23 is still standing
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La Fiera is a guy I'd never heard of before starting GWE and who I really discovered during the process. Shame to see him so low, but just happy I now know who he is and get to enjoy his matches.
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I think Dixie has proven to be as much of a hinderance to TNA as a help. Though her money has kept them afloat, she also is the reason that TNA couldn't be sold on (I believe that the rumour was she had to be included as part of the package of taking TNA on), and she's been involved in several business decisions that have cost TNA dearly (the e-mails to the Spike executives that cost them their slot on the channel) or made them look really bad (firing "job for life" Jesse Sorenson, who broke his neck in a TNA match). I will say that Dixie is far less of a detriment as a TV character though. Not only is she less grating, but she's seemingly far less afraid to look a fool.
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Matches that would peak your interest ... What's on the table?
NotJayTabb replied to TravJ1979's topic in WWE
I don't know why, but Rampage Brown vs Pentagon Jr has been on my mind as a dream match for a while now. In WWE: Enzo & Cass vs Brock Lesnar & Mark Henry - would be the most enjoyable 2 minute squash I could imagine -
Yeah, I felt unsure when I first registered last July, but the "Everybody Should Submit A Ballot" thread reassured me. I worked on the principle that anyone able to discuss wrestling on here would know/care enough about wrestling to submit a ballot.
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Considering how much of her character depends on her lineage and being a third-generation wrestler, Nattie was really bad a few years back. She seemed really off (I remember the famous AJ match, where she dropped the Sharpshooter too early and stood like an idiot expecting the ref to raise her hand), and was getting overtaken by the likes of Alicia Fox or Layla. But you can sense the new emphasis on the division has fired her up and she's getting right back to being good again. The Roadblock match was one of the best matches on the show, and the Raw match was really good too. If what Loss said is true, and she's adding more strings to her bow, then good on her.
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My guys seems to be dropping like flies (18), and I'm the highest vote on 7 of them, which is a bit of a surprise. 24 - Kevin Von Erich (HV) - 258 39 - Fritz von Erich (HV) - 373 44 - Ernie Ladd (HV) - 251 46 - Jeff Jarrett (HV) - 243 67 - Super Delfin - 354 70 - Steve Veidor (HV) - 429 72 - Super Dragon - 228 73 - Tom Zenk (HV) - 472 76 - Doug Williams - 363 82 - Zack Sabre Jr (327) 86 - Pat Roach - 431 89 - The Barbarian - 393 90 - Batista - 241 91 - James Mason (HV) - 517 94 - Terry Taylor - 268 96 - Ikuto Hidaka - 446 97 - Adrian Street - 291 98 - Alex Shelley - 344
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13 names down off my list, and I've been the high voter on 5 of them....but never the lone voter, which is reassuring. Was looking at my list last night, and genuinely thought it'd be a while before anyone else appeared as an honourable mention...thought Kevin von Erich would crack the top 200, but wasn't to be. The first guy down who I thought would do better.
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I think you can point to my favourite babyface revenge match of the decade (Payback 2013 where the virtuous Del Rio kicks the head off of the thieving Ziggler) to show Alberto does have some real nasty aggression when he needs it.
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I don't know if it officially a match or just a long brawl, but New Jack vs Vic Grimes from ECW Living Dangerously 2000 deserves mention, not only for the match itself, but it's legacy. It was your average New Jack brawl until both guys climbed a ricketty looking structure (neither being a small man) and stood awkwardly holding each other until the time came for both to fall off through a table...with Grimes landing on New Jack's head, leaving him temporarily blinded. Just looking at this structure, you knew that no good could come from trying anything up there, and the fact they decided to go up there anyway was totally bone-headed. Also, that lead to the XPW Freefall clusterfuck, where New Jack went into business for himself and (by his own admission) deliberately threw Grimes of a 30ft high scaffold in a manner designed to make him miss the stacks of tables in the ring. Grimes clipped a table on the way down and landed stomach first on the top rope, and quite honestly could've died. So not only did the PPV match stink, it led directly to an even worse match.
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I've loved seeing all the unusual and unique placings on the rundown. Firstly, because I agree with the sentiment that it's important to have as many different voices take part in this as possible. With such a large number of voters, there's always going to be a number of people with unconventional views, and I think that makes this a richer, more diverse list. With having such a big number of voters, the consensus view will largely gravitate towards the more "conventional" names at the top, so I someone wants to vote B-Boy at #23, and that's their honest view, then I think that's great. Also, it's made me feel more comfortable with my own list. Though I believe in every name on my ballot, I did kinda start to second-guess myself in the final weeks, especially on some of the positions that jarred with the regular view. Was I happy with Tom Zenk in my top 75? Should Super Delfin really be one spot higher than Kobashi? Is top 50 Jeff Jarrett too high? If I knew then what I know now about some positions, I still wouldn't change anything I've submitted (everyone is where they are based on my honest opinion), but I'd have felt more confident in the final stretches.
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British Kendo was nominated, just got no votes.
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Good to see 5 ballots for Doug Williams, esp as he was quite a late nomination. Be interesting to know how many of his voters were British - he's a guy I really appreciate in a live environment and he basically works everywhere in the UK. Hes as reliable working the imports in a dream match as he is working with a young guy and making him look good. High from on Fritz Von Erich, suspect he's not the last of his family I'll be high vote on
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I really want to see Mando's list at the end of this process. Between B-Boy at 23 and Kendrick at 9, he's certainly put the cat amongst the pigeons with his picks. He's not hiding behind the anonymous option though, he's owning those picks, so fair play.