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[1986-03-16-WWF-MSG, NY] Randy Savage vs Tito Santana
JKWebb replied to Superstar Sleeze's topic in March 1986
I love the selling of the ribs from Savage after he misses the big elbow, then Tito perfectly times his attack to the stomach. This was a ton of fun. They did a great job getting a shot of the heated crowd when Tito locks on the figure four. The look on Liz's face is priceless. Really liked the finish for this point of the feud. This was the best match on the card that night, and had a ton of heat. I really enjoyed it. I wish there were more things like this in wrestling today. -
That's a good idea. I might have get back on FB just to join the fun.
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[1996-09-22-WWF-Mind Games] Shawn Michaels vs Mankind
JKWebb replied to Loss's topic in September 1996
For fans of this match, that podcast is a great listen!- 38 replies
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I get garretta's points, but this was super fun! That lariat was CRAZY. They could have built an entire story around that lariat had Rick sold it the way it looked like it felt.
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[1991-03-21-NJPW-Starrcade in Tokyo] Sting vs Great Muta
JKWebb replied to Loss's topic in March 1991
Coming back to add that Sting was high on the aggression during this month. You had the match with Larry Z and now this, where he attacks Muta at the end (and he has to be pulled off). I noticed the post-match promo that I liked was not included in the YB. I had the same feelings on the match itself. I've been watching some of the later 90's Sting stuff (particularly the red and black era), and it's unfortunate he didn't wrestle with high intensity during most of that run. He was so over, and I think if he had brought this kind of intensity out, he could have gotten over even more at that time.- 12 replies
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[1991-03-21-NJPW-Starrcade in Tokyo] Jushin Liger vs Akira Nogami
JKWebb replied to Loss's topic in March 1991
I really enjoyed this a lot. Both guys delivered here, and I enjoyed Nogami quite a bit. I'd be closer to calling it a great match than good. I thought the finish looked sweet, the selling was good, Nogami looked mean at times - good stuff!- 14 replies
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[1991-03-14-NJPW-Big Fight Series] Jushin Liger vs Norio Honaga
JKWebb replied to Loss's topic in March 1991
Yeah, I agree. This was REALLY good. Not much else to add, but I loved when Liger slung Honaga's head to the ground. He just seemed pissed, liked he had enough. I also like how Liger sold the aftermath.- 11 replies
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I love this match, and I really love the finish. Sting won't let go - he's tossing the ref's out - just perfect. I saw this for the first time a few years ago and loved, and it didn't disappoint today. Larry Z is so animated, and Sting is relentless. It's a great combination. I'm a big Sting fan too, so that just makes it that much more enjoyable for me.
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They started with 1/21/1985 from MSG. Look around Nov. 2016.
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garretta, one better match that I've seen is 9/19/97, and also a triple threat from 12/06/96 (includes El Dandy). Those matches are absolute classics. I'm with garretta on this one. I thought the first two falls didn't really have much to them, but I enjoyed the third fall.
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To Chad's point, I thought Vader vs. Fujinami was better than this match. Along with OJ, I thought this was fine, but it's just hard for me to get into Onita.
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I'm a week behind, but just finished the 01/27/1986 show. I'm watching along, so sometimes I have to play catch up. Anyways, I was all in with you guys on that Funk vs. Scott McGhee match (***). Also, that might be my all-time favorite Hogan/Savage match. It was fantastic! I'm pretty sure I had never seen that one before. This was a really fun card all together, and great show from you guys.
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[1991-02-17-WWF-Wrestling Challenge] Interview: Roddy Piper & Virgil
JKWebb replied to Loss's topic in February 1991
I really loved Piper in this segment. He's the man. A good point - I agree, had it been anyone else this could have been awful. But, with Piper, it was awesome. -
[1991-02-15-USWA Texas] Jerry Lawler vs Eddie Gilbert
JKWebb replied to Loss's topic in February 1991
Prichard even has a similar haircut to Piper, when the camera catches him from the side, it kind of looks like Piper for a second. It's crazy how much he is trying to be like Piper. I think Bruce probably does the Piper voice better.- 10 replies
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Well, I wouldn't judge his popularity solely by a surprise pop at the Rumble. I just meant that if Jeff Jarrett, or someone like him, had returned in that spot.... since you compared him to JJ... I do not think they would have gotten that pop. I think it takes a certain level of charisma to achieve a pop like that, and to be perceived as a main eventer. There are a lot of people that don't like Edge at all, whether it's ring work or his persona. However, I think there a lot of people that were really into him, and I think he had enough charisma to get over at a level higher than that of a JJ or someone at JJ's level. So, all I'm saying is ... to answer your initial question... in my opinion... he was booked on top more for his charisma than maybe what you might be looking for in him. It's just a thought...
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Jan. of 1991 turned out be one of my favorite month's in wrestling. My top 5: 1. Toshiaki Kawada vs. Akira Taue (AJPW 01/15/1991) 2. El Hijo del Santo vs. Brazo de Oro (UWA 01/13/1991) 3. The Rockers vs. The Orient Express (WWF 01/19/991) 4. Misawa, Kawada, Kikuchi vs. Jumbo, Fuchi, and Taue (AJPW 01/27/1991) 5. Jeff Jarrett vs. Eddie Gilbert (USWA 01/05/1991) Memphis, with the return of the Fabs, was my favorite promotion to watch as a whole. I loved the angle and promos. I'm about half of the way through Feb. now, and it's slowed down a little bit. But, I'm loving 1991 thus far. It's so great watching this stuff in a linear fashion. Kawada vs. Taue was an awesome war that I'll continuously go back to, I loved the emotion from the Santo match, and the creativity in the Rockers. Feb. 1991 slipped in terms of "classics," but I still enjoyed it quite a bit. My top 3: 1. War Games 1991 - Pillman is incredible, and it's probably my second favorite War Games ever. 2/24/91 - ****3/4 2. Barry Windham and Arn Anderson vs. Brad Armstrong and Tim Horner - 2/2/91 - Arn was so damn good in this. This is one of the better one-sided tag matches I've seen (Arn and Barry dominated so much of the match, and it was fantastic). If Horner had shown more fire, could have been near or at the classic level. 3. I think Hansen and Vader would probably be my third choice... I know it was short, but it was still really good while it lasted... personally, I was really entertained. 2/24/91 The Piper/Virgil segment was cool thanks to Piper, and I loved the El Santo Feature from 02/08/91. Memphis continues to be my favorite television, but I'm enjoying the build to Warrior/Savage. I've seen the match a million times, but it I haven't watched the entire build like this since it happened. I'm even not sure I even saw all the segments in order back then. March of 1991 is highlighted by WrestleMania VII. I've thought about this a lot over the years, and although it's typically not hyped as the greatest mania of all time, I think VII is my personal favorite. I watched all of them in order about 4 years ago, and 7 was so refreshing when I watched them like that. It was the first one in years with solid or clean finishes in the undercard. I love Haku and Barbarian vs. The Rockers as the opener. I'll list my favorite matches from the month. I'll add I thought Liger looked really good this month as well. Also, I've stated this many times, but Sherri Martel is incredible. People always talk about Jimmy Hart, Jim Cornette, and the Brain as the greatest MGR's of all time. Sherri is in the top 3 or 4 easy. Also, I'll add Willie Nelson is my favorite opening musical performance for a Mania. Favorites of March 1991: 1. Randy Savage vs. Ultimate Warrior - 03/24/1991 - ***** 2. Hogan/Slaughter @ 7 3. The Rockers vs. Haku & Barbarian - 03/24/1991 4. Hulk Hogan & Tenryu vs. LOD - 03/30/1991 5. Sting vs. Larry Z - 03/10/1991 6. Misawa/Kobashi/Kikuchi vs. Jumbo/Taue/Fuchi - 03/23/1991 I think what stood out the most about April of 1991 were two great cards (one from All Japan and one from New Japan). All Japan really had an amazing month. That Championship Carnival show from 04/18/1991 was something special. It wasn't on the same level, but I also really enjoyed the New Japan show from 04/30/1991 a lot. Favorites from April 1991: 1. Misawa, Kawada, & Kobashi vs. Tsuruta, Taue, & Fuchi - 04/20/1991 - ***** 2. Hansen & Spivey vs. Williams & Gordy - 04/18/1991 3. Kawada vs. Taue - 04/18/1991 4. Jumbo vs. Misawa - 04/18/1991 5. Flair vs. Pillman - 04/13/1991 6. Liger vs. Honaga - 04/30/1991 7. Bret Hart vs. Ted DiBiase - 04/27/1991 Also, an honorable mention goes out to Choshu/Fujinami vs. vs. Hase/Sasaki from 04/30/1991. I really enjoyed that match and the dynamic of the experienced seasoned wrestlers vs. the young guys. They were hitting hard and put a fun a show. What blew me away the most from May was the Santo/Casas match from 05/17/1991. I was unable to find it online when I went through the list Loss made for the Top 500 Matches of the 90's, so it caught me by surprise watching through the set. It is easily my favorite discovery from the set so far. I'm tossing around ****1/2 to ****3/4 area. Probably ****1/2. Top Matches of May 1991: 1. El Hijo del Santo vs. Negro Casas - 05/17/1991 2. Jushin Liger vs. Norio Honaga - 05/31/1991 3. Jumbo Tsuruta vs. Kenta Kobashi - 05/24/1991 4. Eddie Gilbert & Brian Christopher vs. Tom Prichard & Dirty White Boy - 05/18/1991 I also really enjoyed the taped fist match between Windham and Pillman. I realized that the Flair/Fujinami match from Superbrawl is pretty underrated. I also enjoyed the Shamrock/Sano match for what it was. Lastly, the old fan favorite of the Steiners vs. Luger & Sting isn't the classic match that some may say, but is still really fun and holds great nostalgia. So far, my least favorite things about 1991 are PN News and Desperados ha. Favorite matches of June 1991: 1. Misawa & Kawada vs. Hansen & Spivey - 06/07/1991 (great Hansen performance) 2. Hulk Hogan vs. Sgt. Slaughter - 06/03/1991 - (one of my favorite all-time Hogan matches) 3. Steve Williams vs. Bam Bam Bigelow - 06/09/1991 - (awesome clash of the BIG guys) 4. Ric Flair vs. Bobby Eaton - 06/14/1991 - (I feel it's a tad underrated because of the history known that it had to be rushed, if that weren't known, you might notice it as much - still some botches, and at times, bad timing, but it's still pretty great) PN News is a top three least favorite of all-time contender. You have to love the Liz/Randy proposal that kicks off the WWF in July. It's such a great and memorable moment. Savage/Piper/Vince are all pretty funny there. That being said, New Japan was the highlight. I believe July of 1991 to be the weakest month of the year to this point. My favorite match was Vader vs. Hash from 07/19/1991. The tags involving Bam Bam and Vader were pretty fun too, and I also still enjoyed what we got from All Japan. To this point, I've been kind of disappointed with Lucha. Lucha really blew me away in 1990, but in 1991 I'm struggling to connect for the most part. Of course, there have been two great matches this year, but I'm kind of bored with the Brazos tags. Well, I spoke too soon on Lucha, because August of 1991 quickly turned things around with lots of great Lucha content. In fact, August of 1991 is one of the best months in wrestling history as far as I can tell. There were so many really good to great matches throughout the month, and some really fun/classic moments too. The G-1 tournament was incredible, and Summerlsam 1991 is a really fun show (topped off with a wedding). This month also begins Bobby H discussing Ric Flair, the real world champion, coming to the WWF. All Japan has a really strong 6-man (per usual, but Jumbo really shined in it... well per usual again). Really the only promotion that took a turn for the worse during this month was Memphis. It was goofy enough to laugh at though. Also, just to put the icing on the cake, Ultimate Warrior gets bit in the face by a cobra and Randy Savage has a bachelor party! The cobra at the reception is one of the best WWF heel moments ever... Here are my top matches from August of 1991: 1. Masa Chono vs. Shinya Hashimoto - 08/09/1991 (NJPW) 2. Vader vs. Keiji Muto - 08/10/1991 (NJPW) 3. Masa Chono vs. Keiji Muto - 08/11/1991 (NJPW) 4. Bret Hart vs. Mr. Perfect - Summerslam 1991 5. Atlantis vs. Blue Panther - 08/09/1991 (CMLL) All Japan started off the month of September with bang! Two of the best matches of the year on the same card of 09/04/1991. Also, Ric Flair debuts in the WWF on Prime Time! Robin Hood even teams with the Ninja Turtles. Going through this month, and seeing the great Randy Savage promo from his home, I was actually thinking Savage might end up the MVP of 1991... and he's been retired for half the year to this point. But, he's been incredible in everything he's done. Here are my top matches from September of 1991, but I'll point out the Savage interview from 9/15/91 was probably my favorite moment. 1. Stan Hansen vs. Kenta Kobashi - 09/04/1991 2. Taue & Jumbo Tsuruta vs. Misawa & Kawada - 09/04/1991 In October, Ric Flair made his MSG debut vs. Roddy Piper, and I thought it was super entertaining. The build to the match was really good as well. I also thought Memphis had a great episode where BJT demolishes the newly autographed (by country music stars) guitar of Jerry Lawler. Lawler in turn bashes the windows out of the BJT's car. I think it was on of the more memorable episodes of the entire year for Memphis. Here are my favorite matches from October: 1. Misawa, Kawada, & Kikuchi vs. Jumbo, Taue, & Fuchi - 10/15/1991 2. Steve Austin vs. Dustin Rhodes - 10/27/1991 3. Ric Flair vs. Roddy Piper - 10/28/1991 Honorable mention goes out to Yatsu & Tenryu 10/29/1991. It's not a great match, but I just really enjoyed these two going at it at this stage in Yatsu's career. It appears he's on the back end, and it was nice to see him go as hard as he could here. The finish was fun. I don't even know where to start with November. I thought Jan. was one my favorite months, but November topped it. WWF is on fire at this point with the Macho Man and Jake Roberts feud. You have one of the most famous WWF segments ever with the King Cobra attacking Savage, and man does it hold up. The performance from Savage is off the charts, on another level, amazing. Then, in WCW you have one of the best Clash of the Champions of ever. You get the amazing Tag with Dustin/Steamboat vs. The Enforcers, and I love the injured Sting returning from the hospital to face Rick Rude angle. It's one of the best performances of Sting's career. Hogan and Flair finally face off with a promo, and it's super intense. You also get their first meeting at MSG. The RWTL in AJ is really good, and Tenryu is having good matches as well. Throw in some good lucha, and you have one excellent month of wrestling. My favorite matches in November: 1. The Enforcers vs. Steamboat and Dustin Rhodes - 11/19/1991 2. Misawa & Kawada vs. Taue and Jumbo - 11/29/1991 3. Misawa & Kawada vs. Hansen & Spivey - 11/16/1991 4. Sting vs. Rick Rude - 11/19/1991 5. Tenryu vs. Ashura Hara - 11/10/1991 6. Octagon vs. Fuerza Guerrera - 11/01/1991 You can really feel WCW picking up steam with the Dangerous Alliance angle.
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Right, and I was meaning maybe it made sense because of the reaction he was getting?
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Well, I wouldn't go all Jeff Jarrett on him. I was at the Rumble when he returned in Atlanta, and the crowd popped HUGE. There was a certain charisma about him that obviously a lot of people enjoyed on a higher level than that of a JJ. You think if JJ was the surprise entrant in that Rumble anyone would have popped? Nah... I'm not trying to call out Jarrett either. I use that name just because it was used here. Jarrett had his moments in Memphis and Dallas that were fun. But, it's also a fun comparison. I'm not sure I know anyone that loved JJ being the top guy in TNA all those years, and I definitely recall friends not buying him during the later years of WCW. However, I bet there are lots of folks out there that LOVED Edge as champion.
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Really cool stuff, and yeah those punches are wicked.... makes me want to search for more Santo footage.
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This is really good stuff. Arn and Barry worked great together, and I thought Arn was a real MVP here. A better finish could have lifted this to a classic level. I think it was one of the better tags I've seen where one team (Arn and Barry) dominated so much of the match. Horner's fire after the long-awaited hot tag could have been a little hotter. Still, I loved this one.
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This was a fun match. I loved the spot where Travis blind-sided JJ with that punch and he sold it like he had been caught off guard and almost knocked out. That's a spot I'd love to see incorporated into more rumbles, When you get blind-sided like that, it should knock you out (or almost).
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[1991-01-30-WCW-Clash of the Champions XIV] Ric Flair vs Scott Steiner
JKWebb replied to Loss's topic in January 1991
I've seen this a few times, and watched it again tonight. It doesn't deliver. Scott didn't show any fire, and Flair was off. He should have flipped his lid at the ref when they didn't DQ Scott for the over the top rope lariat, and he just quickly recovered and took over on offense. Not much to add, the match is a bummer.- 14 replies
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This match is awesome. I saw Allan post two GIF's of Jumbo today that he titled "Don't Mess with Jumbo Part 1 & 2. Well, this match has your parts 3, 4, 5, 6, & 7. Jumbo is a BEAST. I can watch him work these tags all day. Great match.
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[1991-01-19-WWF-Royal Rumble] The Rockers vs Orient Express
JKWebb replied to Loss's topic in January 1991
Jan. of 1991 has to be one of the best month's in wrestling history as far as MOTYC/Classic matches go. It's just incredible. Another MOTYC candidate here in the first month of my 1991YB journey. I guess I'm more in line with garretta and PeteF3 on this match, that is I seem to be a little bit higher than some of the others who saw at is really good (but, maybe not GREAT). A lot has been said, but it just doesn't get much better than this in a WWF Tag setting. I absolutely LOVED the creativity and freshness of this match (especially thinking of the finish). At this point, this is in my top two for the month, and it's going to be hard to choose. -
[1991-01-15-AJPW-New Year Giant Series] Toshiaki Kawada vs Akira Taue
JKWebb replied to Loss's topic in January 1991
I watched this again tonight, and I think I love it even more. I love how the knee goes out on Kawada for the nearfall at the end. That nearfall ruled me. The finish was so damn stiff. The brawling and out of control aspect of the entire thing has been discussed, but this really is an AJ 90's favorite for me.- 28 replies
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