Jump to content
Pro Wrestling Only

Frankensteiner

Members
  • Posts

    494
  • Joined

  • Last visited

Everything posted by Frankensteiner

  1. I said this in the other thread, but for me it’s Ric Flair. I don’t think I ever thought of him as the GOAT but his stock has fallen pretty hard in my eyes. He’s just really predictable and repetitive not only from match to match but also within matches. It also seems like he has to hit all of his spots regardless if it makes sense in the context of the match (like Ric going up top to get slammed with about a min. / half min. to go in a one hour draw). Finally, I don’t understand why the NWA champion would wrestle with all the stooging and comedy bumps. Wasn’t he hailed as this serious alternative to Hogan? I don’t have the desire to see any more of Flair's work even if I still like some of his matches (mostly depends on his opponents).
  2. I see. I had a match list listing The Pearl as Muta and I guess since he did the moonsault I just assumed it to be true.
  3. Been watching a lot of WCW from 1990 lately and there's a couple of things I didn't remember at all. Like they brought in Muta but had him wrestle under a mask and called him "The Pearl". It was only a squash match on the Saturday show but why the hell would they do that? The other funny thing was Luger had this tag match against the Motor City Madman and Big Cat where he was going to bring out a mystery partner. So out comes Vader and they ended up cleaning house with Vader acting like a total babyface complete with posing and fist pumping, and high fiving Luger. God, they debuted a lot of new guys in 1990 but all of them pretty much sucked (Nightstalker, Allen Ironeagle, JW Storm, Motor City Madman, Big Cat, Master Blasters, etc.). Also, the strength of 1990 WCW were the tag teams because the singles scene was pretty poor. They really sandbagged Sting with their horrible booking.
  4. How did you guys select this match over the 4 or 5 other handheld matches available from this period? Were you going on recommendations or did you watch all of them and chose the best one. shoe brought up that 30+ minute match from San Francisco which got me curious. I've seen the Indianapolis match from 11/29 but thought it was very similar to the home video title change match.
  5. I don't get why people say that heel run was Barry's peak. I think his peak was his face work in JCP. He had a number of excellent matches with Flair, Arn, Tully, Murdoch, Luger, Larry Z, Gilbert (when Gilbert was heel in UWF), and Rotunda, as well as the aforementioned tag matches against Arn & Tully. I guess some of that was in early '88. But I think his face run blows away his work as a heel as far as matches go.
  6. I went into this wanting to enjoy it but found it kind of poor. The opening matwork section was pretty bad and it seemed like Metal didn't know what to do. It finally got going a little once they started the dives but they already lost me by then. Overall just kind of a dull match with Metal looking really green.
  7. I want to say there's a handheld version available in full. The pro-shot version is clipped. Could be wrong.
  8. Thanks for the tips. I'm going to try it and hope it comes out well.
  9. If we're talking flip-flops then I have to say Ric Flair (I wasn't going to bring him up because I think there's plenty of people that seem to dislike Flair these days so the opinion isn't contrarian). He still has matches that I like a lot but it's usually more for the opponent. And the ones I dislike are because of Flair. He's just so repetetive and non-sensical that it becomes difficult to enjoy his stuff. People always bring him up as this serious NWA champ but he's just as much of a cartoon character as Hogan. As far as Undertaker, I would probably rather watch him in the 90s than now. I don't understand the point of him coming out with his dead-man gimmick and then wrestling as an MMA fighter. Another guy is Jerry Lawler. Now, I think he's excellent and when I watch his highly acclaimed matches they are always great. But for whatever reason I don't really have any desire to watch more or go out of my way to track down more stuff from Memphis (maybe part of it there's so much footage to track down that it's too daunting).
  10. Yeah, I agree. I really have no interest in watching 20 versions of long matches between the same 5 or 6 wrestlers.
  11. Yeah, I was talking about the second Tito/Martel v. Flyers tag. The first should be an extra though. Also, I guess after looking at my notes (and what Khawk posted) one of those Tito/Bock matches only has like 7-8 minutes shown so it probably shouldn't make the set. That Tito/Blackwell match looks interesting. I'm going to have to get that one from khawk.
  12. There are only a handful of Tito AWA matches which are available on tape. I think about 9 or 10 at the most. I'm not working on the set but in my opinion I would say at least 3 or 4 of those (2 matches vs. Bockwinkel, vs. Robinson, and w/Martel vs. High Flyers) should be on the set.
  13. So what would you say about Martel? Maybe I'm misinterpreting but it seems like the conclusion is he wasn't much of a draw...
  14. Rick Martel vs. Nick Bockwinkel, Meadowlands, 6/22/85 (?) A match aired on World Pro in Japan. They have their usual good match. I think it’s a slight downgrade from the first couple of matches in the Winnipeg series, but in my eyes those are going to be tough to top. Obviously they repeat some spots and sequences from the previous matches which makes it a little less exciting if you watch them in order. But technically this is still a very good and physical match. I loved how Bockwinkel was going after Martel when Martel was in the ropes. Bockwinkel was also doing the king of the mountain stuff (he did this in the last Winnipeg match) only for a great Martel answer from the outside. One problem here is that it looks as if World Pro was again very liberal with their editing. My version runs only about 11 minutes which is shorther than what was shown from Winnipeg, thus giving those matches an advantage. The date is only a guess, as going by the finish, I’m assuming this lead to a rematch the next month. I don’t understand how Martel was declared the winner here. I’m trying to compare this Martel run to Tito’s WWF run in the same time frame. Can’t decide which one I like better.
  15. I'm assuming the version here is a snowy copy sourced from Jeff Lynch. For anyone interested in seeing this match, there's a much cleaner picture quality version on youtube (I've tried unsuccessfully to get a DVD copy from the guy): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ukVYsjNONac
  16. Re-reading my review, I think I have my timeline confused as this wasn't even on Thanksgiving, but the day before. The date here is off by one day because the show took place on the 25th.
  17. Hey shoe, you got a date or town info for that 35+ minute match?
  18. Flair blowing a kiss to the crowd while Perfect turns around and smugly looks on cracks me up everytime.
  19. I think I might be the only person who didn't really like Arn as a promo. I guess it might be his look as much as anything, but when you see his horse shoe hair cut, beard, the spectacles, his southern drawl delivery, and listen to the cliches and dated analogies, he just seems kinda lame. It's like someone's grandpa giving you a stern warning.
  20. Did you like this better than their 1991 match? I thought this was better, but not as good as the 1990 matches. I always think of this Dandy/Satanico hair match series as CMLL's version of the Lawler/Dundee LLT matches.
  21. Curt Hennig vs. Wahoo McDaniel, Las Vegas, 1987 Curt Hennig vs. Wahoo McDaniel (Strap Match), Las Vegas, 1987 Curt Hennig vs. Wahoo McDaniel, Las Vegas, 11/16/87 The first match in the series was a decent enough opener. But looking at it as a standalone match, it took too long to get going for such a short affair. It felt like there were too many restarts in the action. They did finally open up on each other with some earth shattering chops. Unfortunately the match ended not soon after with Henning nailing Wahoo with a foreign object and getting the pin. Larry Zbyszko was fairly entertaining on commentary throughout. The strap match was good. They definitely deliver what you would want to see out of a strap match between these two. Some chop exchanges, some strap shots, some Hennig bumps, and some blood. Finish with Adonis coming out and cutting the strap was kind of interesting for a screwjob ending. I wouldn’t say it was a great match but it lived up to my expectations and was pretty fun as a result. The third match again took a while to get going but got pretty good once Hennig busted Wahoo open on the outside. There was a definite uptick in intensity with that moment. Hennig attacking the cut with rapid fire lefts and rights as well as a knee was a highlight. Curt also kept taking this wild bump off some of Wahoo’s chops that almost looked he was doing Olympic high jumping. Another moment I enjoyed was them trading some brutal overhead chops on the outside prior to the finish. Match ended on a double-count out. I want to say they have another match (they have to, right?) with Madusa in Hennig’s corner but I haven’t been able to find it. From what I’ve seen, this was a good series overall. I wouldn’t call any of the matches particularly great but all of them were at least enjoyable. If nothing else, it’s a good comparison to Flair’s matches with Wahoo.
  22. I don't know about that. I think Warrior's biggest problem as champion was they couldn't really give him any good opponents (not unlike what happened to Bret). He worked a little with Perfect, who was coming off a program jobbing to Hogan. Then there was Rude who Warrior had beaten the previous year. Not really fresh or exciting matches. He then tagged with LOD against the Demos.
  23. I can. It was probably your regular Ric Flair match. I'd bet it wasn't the quality that pissed off Vince, but Flair working his typical match instead of going along with the match Vince wanted here.
  24. Mysterio/Orton is great and probably my favorite Mysterio match.
×
×
  • Create New...