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I hope Nak comes out to Subconscious

I don't think the cancer comment was at all related to Punk's work or the storylines and angles he's been involved with.

At the same time, they're letting Nakamura work NOAH for a match against Muta in January.

Ol' Double Talking Jive David Meltzer said multiple people said that was completely fabricated, and not a single person had mentioned this on either side until yesterday. Those multiple people could be Kenny and the Bucks, of course. However, Punk's side did backtrack on "kicking the door in" and it is curious to have not mentioned this for a month and a half, at the same time as leaking his defense in the event legal actions stem from the incident.

I think part of it is that's just how everything is in the news cycle now, but also because outside of the one show where Steph announced Vince was retiring, he's not been mentioned again, the associated stories surrounding the situation dropped out of media coverage almost immediately as Vince was gone. He's not even in the opening anymore.

I feel like the Vince thing actually has not been a big story at all. Everyone moved on immediately and was happy.

I've been doing a rewatch of the Nitro era with some buds and Saturn being super, super underwhelming has really stood out to me as well. I remember him being pretty awesome, but at least in his first 3-4 months, he has not looked good at all against some great talent.

I don't really see it as a personal dislike of him, I think it is fair to point out he's always been this guy and always will be that guy. There are stories of him being a caustic asshole or guy thinking he's the locker room leader and people should listen to him from his earliest times in the business. Damn near every guy he's been associated with, he's had a bad falling out with or they actually were never friends to begin with. Punk is the absolute king of self-sabotage. The guy was out of the business for 7 1/2 years. The business didn't need him to come back. AEW didn't need him to come back. WWE didn't need him to come back. The business is not going to miss him leaving again. My argument is that I don't feel there is even a choice to be made over him or Kenny/Bucks. I don't remember shit what I did or didn't post on GAF or LS 7 years ago, I was wild drunk constantly during that time.

Punk has thought of himself as a locker room leader vet giving out unsolicited advice and annoying people since the IWA MS days.

The only good things to come from the entire trilogy are the soundtracks and John Carpenter getting the money actually owed to him, which he spends entirely on video games.

They should have to pay people for Halloween Ends. Absolute dogshit. Truly hard to believe that the team behind Eastbound, Vice Principals, Gemstones could make the 3 worst Halloween movies. In a row, too.

The WWF/AJPW deal is weirder to me than MPro or FMW. Attitude Era WWF and late stage King's Road styles, as well as Vince's and Baba's booking philosophies and presentations, could not have been farther apart.

Jungle Boy definitely got absolutely fucked by Christian's injury. I don't think there is a good way to keep that going for something that's a 9-12 month injury for Christian. The Lucha turn, then maybe sorta turn back, then turn again all in like 3 weeks was probably not the best way to go.

What move scrambled him?

Thought the Hangman promo was great. Thought the main event was pretty good. I hope to never have to see another Jericho match that isn't from 1998 for the rest of my life. Everything with him is so self-indulgent and I really wish TK would use him more sparingly. He has these never ending feuds and goes on and on about how he made whoever it was against a star and all this shit, but the feuds are all boring and the other guy ends up doing nothing for 6 months after.

Heel tactics as a face seems to be a McMahon thing, as pretty much every IC and World level face going back to Bruno would do them, always to cheers from the crowd and face announcer.

LG shows personality all the time, but his personality fucking sucks as much as his ring work.

Finally, Chase Owens vs Taguchi will get the title match treatment it deserves

How can one forget Arachnaman in WCW? It actually got them sued. Dexter Lumis is the most blatant one I can think of in the past like...15-20 years. I'm sure TNA has a gang of IP rip offs over the years.

Steamboat is so good in his second WCW run. I think the Rude iron man match is the perfect wrestling 101 match that you can show to someone who has never watched wrestling and they'll understand wrestling psychology, face and heel dynamics, how selling works. And something that even vets can watch and improve their knowledge. I also think the SS Steamboat/Flair match is better than 2 of the 3 in 1989. I can never keep straight which match is which and which one is the one pretty universally thought of as the best, but the Spring Stampede match is better than the other 2, imo.

Agreed. But by the end of 2014 and feud with Dean Ambrose, shit was dire and only got worse from there. I guess the cage match with Cena is probably a sign of how bad things were going to go for that character.

Everything Bray Wyatt related and adjacent has been some of the worst shit of all time since around the end of 2014.

I can not imagine how stupid that looked in arena with camera crews and stage hands getting into position and moving props around. And it was real fucking dumb on TV to begin with. Way, way over produced. Imagine the whole thing was just the lights out, audio playing, and then a lantern lights up.

Real good show besides Edge/Balor, which was dreadfully boring and Balor in this role is working like he's taking the piss at all times. I did lol at Dom beating the shit out of Rey.

She didn't no sell at all Everyone on this card is going to be sore as fuck tomorrow