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the best Xmas picture of all time.

I would add Dick Murdoch and Rick Rude.

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Can somebody take the time to actually list the Edge matches they think are great?

I agree in principle that using usernames is helpful but in no way would we tell somebody that knows another poster personally (or even feels like they do) that they can't address them by their first name.

Another word to take into consideration is consistency.

I might steal some of your ideas. The problem is we are getting into am area where I don't care about the participants.

WRESTLEMANIA XV Pre-Show Battle Royal: D-Lo Brown, Bart Gunn, Billy Gunn, Test, Steve Blackman, Justin Bradshaw, Brian Christopher, DOA, Droz, Farooq, Gillberg, The Godfather, Jeff & Matt Hardy, Legion of Doom, Midian, Public Enemy, Tiger Ali Singh, Scott Taylor, and Viscera, Big Bossman. Val Venis vs. Goldust Bob Holly vs. Al Snow (Hardcore Title) Bradshaw & Faarooq vs. Owen Hart & Jeff Jarrett (Tag Titles) Butterbean vs. Kane Ken Shamrock vs. Road Dogg (IC Title) Hearst Helmsley vs. Paul Wight Shane McMahon vs. X-Pac (European Title) Sable vs. Tori The Undertaker vs. Mankind (Hell In A Cell) Steve Austin vs. The Rock (World Title) -- First off, I have no idea who was a face or heel so forgive me with not keeping up with Russo booking. -- Instead of D-Lo and Test winning the tag title shot, I form the APA here and have them kill the Outlaws. -- I split the IC title match from the Venis-Goldust match. I loved the Venis-Goldust feud and think they have a killer opener here. With one match, I made this card better. -- I took Billy Gunn from the hardcore feud and threw him into the Battle Royal because I think Snow and Holly have a better match without Gunn. -- In my world, Kane wins Brawl for All, he gets knocked out in 12 seconds, is banished from the company forever (until the next Mania anyway) and poor Bart Gunn can kick away in the midcard. -- Helmsley vs. Wight doesn't seem good but at least it is two big names facing each other. -- Taker vs. Mankind Cell rematch where Foley falls through the top of the cage into a pit of burning coals and through the bottom of the ring. He doesn't appear again until next year's Mania. The main event may have to take place everywhere but the ring but I have faith Rock and Austin can figure out a way to make it work.

WRESTLEMANIA XIV BATTLE ROYAL: The Undertaker & Kane, LOD 2000, Savio Vega & Miguel Perez, Recon & Sniper, Chainz & Bradshaw, D-Lo Brown & Mark Henry, The Quebecers, Jesus Castillo & Jose Estrada, The Headbangers, Scott Taylor & Brian Christopher, Steve Blackman & Flash Funk, The Godwinns, Skull & Eight Ball, Farooq & Kama, and Bob Holly & Bart Gunn. Taka Michinoku vs. Aguila (Light Heavyweight Title) Hunter Hearst Helmsley vs. Owen Hart (European Title) The Rock-n-Roll Express vs. Billy Gunn & Jesse James (Dumpster Match) (Tag Titles) Rocky Maivia vs. Ken Shamrock (IC Title) Terry Funk vs. Cactus Jack (Death Match) Marc Mero & Sable vs. Goldust & Luna Steve Austin vs. Shawn Michaels (World Title) -- I don't know if this is a better Mania but in my mind, I love it. I force Taker & Kane as unwilling tag partners and have them win the stupid battle royal. Taker keeps his streak but I don't have to watch those guys in a singles match. -- In my world, the RNR are still a hot tag team and fighting off the young upstarts. Hey, I can dream. -- I wanted to put on the Death Match that Foley & Funk wanted to have so they have a death match.

It's funny because Steven and I have a very similar booking philosophy for 13 except for a few exceptions. Also, I had this card down but had no comments before you posted yours so I give you no credit WRESTLEMANIA XIII The Headbangers vs. The New Blackjacks vs. The Godwinns (Tag Titles) Hunter Hearst Helmsley vs. Rocky Maivia (IC Title) Sycho Sid vs. The Sultan Vader vs. Goldust Phil Lafon & Doug Furnas vs. Owen Hart & Davey Smith The Legion of Doom & Ahmed Johnson vs. Farooq, Crush, and Savio Vega (Chicago Street Fight) Bret Hart vs. Steve Austin (Submission Match) Mankind vs. The Undertaker (Title Match) -- I didn't have a mini-tournament and kept Sid away from the world title. I gave Mankind his Mania main event so he could have his special moment and wouldn't have to come back for 2000. -- I had the same tag matches as Grimmas. -- If just by chance, Rocky & HHH hooked up here, it could be one more match in their rivalry which at least gives it a historical footnote even if the match sucks. -- Sid was gone after this so have him squash the Sultan in 12 seconds and disappear. -- I like the Vader vs. Goldust pairing and think it could sneak in as another good match. -- Still feels like a shit Mania but if the World Title match, the Owen/Davey match and the Vader match delivers, it could be a special show. With Mankind on top, might even have a lower buyrate than it ended up with.

I knew about the Luger-Bundy pairing. I had no idea Perfect was a face at Nine. It also demonstrates how invested in Luger I was.

WRESTLEMANIA XII Owen Hart & Davey Smith vs. Yokozuna & Savio Vega Steve Austin vs. Jake Roberts Ahmed Johnson vs. Diesel Ultimate Warrior vs. Hunter Hearst Helmsley The Undertaker vs. Vader Roddy Piper vs. Goldust (Hollywood Backlot Brawl) Shawn Michaels vs. Bret Hart (World Title) -- I don't think I actually made this Mania better but I made it more memorable. -- I take Nash away from Taker and have Ahmed recklessly destroy him and accidentally end his career early by breaking his legs. Wrestling history changes before our eyes. -- I move Jake with Austin so that there is some history leading into the KOTR. -- Taker vs. Vader feels epic for the time period and Vader would be better served in an upper card match instead of the opener. -- Like BITW, I would kill the Iron Man stipulation altogether and let these two just go out and wrestle.

WrestleMania X is the first Mania where I didn't think i could make it better. There are other matches I could make but I didn't think it made for a better show. It was just shifting mediocre wrestlers around with Savage having nobody to dance with. His match with Crush is revered by some people so I just left it alone. WRESTLEMANIA XI Lex Luger & King Kong Bundy vs.Jacob & Eli Blue Razor Ramon vs. Bob Backlund The Undertaker vs. Jeff Jarrett Owen Hart & Yokozuna vs. The Smoking Gunns (Tag Titles) Davey Smith vs. Shawn Michaels Diesel vs. Bret Hart (World Title) Lawrence Taylor vs. Bam Bam Bigelow -- I kept the tag title match since it was a title change and I like the Yoko/Owen team. The main event was about as good of a main event you were going to have with Laurence Taylor. It is pretty famous also. -- The opener tag is crap but I needed Bulldog in the HBK match. HBK & Bulldog could have matched up well on a Mania card and we know they have delivered on PPV. -- I didn't think that HBK-Diesel was a really great match and I think Bret was a better partner for Diesel anyway. -- We know what to expect from Bob-Razor and Taker-Jarrett could have had some fun Memphis shtick. Nothing blowaway but I think with the addition of the HBK and Hart matches, this becomes a better Mania.

WRESTLEMANIA IX Pre Show: Papa Shango & Giant Gonzales vs. Tatanka & Crush Rick & Scott Steiner vs. Headshrinkers Samu & Fatu Bob Backlund vs. Doink (Borne) The Undertaker vs. Shawn Michaels Mr. Perfect vs. Tito Santana Lex Luger vs. Razor Ramon Ted DiBiase & Irwin R. Schyster vs. Hulk Hogan & Brutus Beefcake (Tag Titles) Yokozuna vs. Bret Hart (Cage Match) (World Title) This one was hard to put together and still feels like a shit show. I kept the face-heel dynamic as was and that made it harder to put together. I also cheeated again and used the pre-show wrestlers. -- I got some shitty guys off the mian show and threw them into obscurity. -- After watching some horrible wrestling, maybe the crowd gets hotter for the Steiners tag. -- I put Borne and Backlund together and I sort of like the dynamic. -- Taker & HBK could be fun as little guy bouncing around for monster that Shawn was really good at. It may be too early in Taker's career for him to have a good match but he wasn't really paired up with good wrestlers so maybe this is both guys breakout. -- In my Wrestlemania world, Tito was Mr. Wrestlemania along with Greg Valentine up to this point so this is Tito's farewell Mania match against Perfect. -- Luger vs. Ramon doesn't feel like a good match but maybe both guys work hard. I don't know. -- I kept the tag title the same since I didn't want Beefcake and IRSuck ruining another match. -- In the main event, I don't care who wins but it should be a cage match laid out like their kickass cage matches that made tape.

WRESTLEMANIA VIII Shawn Michaels vs. Owen Hart Rick Martel vs. Tito Santana Virgil, Jim Duggan, Tatanka & Sgt. Slaughter vs. The Nasty Boys, Repoman & Skinner Bret Hart vs. Roddy Piper (I-C Title) The Mountie vs. Big Boss Man (Tazer / Nightstick on a Pole Match) The Undertaker vs. Sid Justice Randy Savage vs. Jake Roberts Earthquake & Typhoon vs. Ted DiBiase & Irwin R. Schyster (Tag Titles) Hulk Hogan vs. Ric Flair (World Title) -- I agree with BITW about booking Owen-HBK. Hot opener. It heats Owen up and gives HBK a nice win. -- I give Tito and Martel one more run since neither was a major focal point, you can give them a solid ten minutes for a good match. -- I took Boss and Mountie out of the 8 man tag and gave them a singles match. They can have the Pole match and beat the shit out of each other with sticks in my violent mind. -- I know Taker vs. Sid would suck but it gives us a Savage-Snake blowoff after Snake had tortured Savage and Liz for 5 more months after Tuesday in Texas. This would be a Death Match where either the snake or Liz get blown up. May be the best match in Mania history. Instead of interfering in the Hogan-Sid match, Papa Shango interferes here and he gets blwon up instead. Everyone wins!!! -- I agree that Flair vs. Hogan had to headline this show and it was a tragedy it never happened.

WRESTLEMANIA VII The Rockers vs. The Barbarian & Haku Davey Smith vs. Warlord Genichiro Tenryu vs. Greg Valentine Kerry Von Erich vs. Dino Bravo The Mountie vs. Tito Santana Earthquake & Koji Kitao vs. Demolition Smash & Crush The Nasty Boys vs. The Hart Foundation (Tag Title) Jake Roberts vs. Rick Martel (Blindfold match) The Undertaker vs. Jimmy Snuka Ultimate Warrior vs. Randy Savage (Retirement Match) Virgil vs. Ted DiBiase Big Boss Man vs. Mr. Perfect (IC Title) Hulk Hogan vs. Sgt Slaughter (World Title) -- In a perfect world, there would be no hokey Iraqi Turncoat and it could just be Hogan vs. Slaughter. -- I flirted with the idea of giving Tenryu the main event because he is fucking Tenryu but I gave him Greg Valentine's last Mania classic. Valentine and Tenryu beat the hell out of each other and Valentine ends a great run of mania matches. -- I left everything else as it was. I could have really worked this card around but it was a pretty good Mania already. The shit on the show was short and some stuff was surprisingly good like Warlord-Davey.

WRESTLEMANIA VI Brooklyn Brawler vs. Koko B. Ware (Pre-Show) Bret Hart vs. Mr. Perfect Earthquake vs. Big Boss Man Jimmy Snuka, Jim Duggan, Jim Neidhart & Brutus Beefcake vs. The Barbarian, Dino Bravo, Bad News Brown & Akeem Paul Roma & Hercules vs. Nikolai Volkoff & Boris Zuhkov The Orient Express (Sato & Tanaka) vs. The Rockers Roddy Piper vs. Rick Rude (Cage Match) INTERMISSION Demolition Axe & Smash vs. Andre the Giant & Haku (Tag Titles) Rick Martel vs. Tito Santana (Grudge Match) Dusty Rhodes & Sapphire vs. Sherri Martel & Randy Savage Ted DiBiase vs. Jake Roberts Ultimate Warrior vs.Hulk Hogan (World Title) -- I cheated by including the pre-show match so we could form Power & Glory as a face team and kill the Russians in short order. -- Like all Manias, I put the dead weight in a big clusterfuck -- I like the Earthquake vs. Boss Man matchup so it could be a decent big man match. -- We know Piper vs. Rude delivered in a cage and it gets you away from the blackface bullshit that led up to the Bad News feud. -- I was going to switch Savage and Dibiase but I don't think it would have made much difference match quality wise so I left them alone. -- I agree that Tito vs. Martel should have had a grudge match With these changes, you get 3 matches that could deliver big time along with the good matches that already happened. On paper, it looks hot!!!

WRESTLEMANIA V Akeem & Big Boss Man vs. The Rockers Mr. Perfect vs.The Blue Blazer Brutus Beefcake & The Bushwhackers vs. Hercules, Dino Bravo & Honkytonk Man Greg Valentine vs. Ronnie Garvin The Hart Foundation vs. Jacques & Raymond Rougeau Ted DiBiase & Andre the Giant vs. Jim Duggan & Jake Roberts INTERMISSION Haku vs. Bad News Brown Arn Anderson & Tully Blanchard vs. Tito Santana & Rick Martel Rick Rude vs. Ultimate Warrior (I-C Title) Demolition Axe & Smash vs. The Powers of Pain & Mr. Fuji Red Rooster vs. Bobby Heenan Hulk Hogan vs. Randy Savage (World Title) BITW didn't mess with this one so I couldn't steal any of his ideas. However, there were some easy fixes on the undercard to make it even more epic. -- Seven of the matches on a 14 match card, I didn't mess with. They either are looked upon fondly or had a reason for being there from a story standpoint. Is anyone getting a better match out of Warrior than Rude? Perfect & Blazer is praised. I like the Rockers match & the Brainbusters match so no need to mess with any of those. -- I thought Harts vs. Rougeaus would at least be better than Harts vs. R&B. Plus, Valentine and Garvin can have a sweet ass kicking match that would be a Mania great. -- I threw all of the suck into one six man tag and that can last 2 minutes. -- Haku vs. Brown feels better than Haku-Hercules. -- I threw Dibiase & Andre together to compensate for Andre's mobility and paired him up against a couple of old Mid South rivals in the hopes they could do something decent. You still get Andre vs. Jake and keep Dibiase away from Beefcake. You even get the old nod to Dibiase vs. Duggan.

WrestleMania IV Battle Royal: Bad News Brown, Ron Bass, Brian Blair, Jim Brunzell, Bret Hart, Hillbilly Jim, Sam Houston, Junkyard Dog, Jim Neidhart, Ken Patera, Jim Powers, , Paul Roma, Jacques Rougeau, Raymond Rougeau, Sika, George Steele, Nikolai Volkoff, Boris Zuhkov, Brutus Beefcake, Hercules, Don Muraco, Dino Bravo, One Man Gang, Danny Davis, Butch Reed Tournament: Ricky Steamboat vs. Greg Valentine Tournament: Randy Savage vs. Rick Rude Tournament: Hulk Hogan vs. Andre the Giant Tournament: Ted DiBiase vs. Jake Roberts Bam Bam Bigelow vs. Honkytonk Man (IC Title) Intermission: Tournament: Ricky Steamboat vs. Randy Savage Demolition vs. Tito Santana & Rick Martel (Tag Titles) Jim Duggan vs. Harley Race (Grudge Match) Bobby Heenan, Haku, & Tama vs. The British Bulldogs & Koko B. Ware Ultimate Warrior vs. Danny Davis Tournament Final: Ted DiBiase vs. Randy Savage -- I stole BITW's idea for an eight man tournament and even kept the results the same. You get the Savage-Steamboat rematch. Savage vs. Rude was solid in Memphis. You give Dibiase an easy path to the world title and get rid of Andre & Hogan. I think it works much better and is excellent booking by BITW. -- I added more dead weight to the Battle Royal -- Instead of Warrior beating Honky here, I think Bam Bam at the time would have been energetic enough to counter Honky's boring wrestling style. -- I added a Duggan-Race grudge match because they had some fun brawls (including the Slammys brawl) and I think this could have been fun as well. -- For the Battle Royal, I go down a separate path. You have Bret's face turn but it's because the Hart Family screws him and Danny Davis wins the Battle Royal. Later on in the show, Davis & Jimmy Hart come out for a promo and talk about how he will challenge the winner of the tournament and is the #1 contender. Warrior's music hits... squash... people are happy. It also is a nice consolation for Heenan going over in the six man.

WRESTLEMANIA III Jacques & Raymond Rougeau vs. Bob Orton & Don Muraco Hillbilly Jim, Little Beaver, & Haiti Kid vs. King Kong Bundy, Lord Littlebrook, & Little Tokyo Jake Roberts vs. Butch Reed Tito Santana vs. Greg Valentine (First Blood) Hercules & Brutus Beefcake vs. Billy Jack Haynes & Tom Zenk Harley Race vs. Rick Martel INTERMISSION Iron Sheik & Nikolai Volkoff vs. The Killer Bees Roddy Piper vs. Adrian Adonis (Hair vs Hair) Ricky Steamboat vs. Randy Savage (I-C Title) The Hart Foundation, Honkytonk Man & Danny Davis vs. The British Bulldogs, Junkyard Dog & Koko B. Ware Hulk Hogan vs. Andre the Giant (World Title) How do you make Mania III even better? I think I have a few good adjustments. BITW left this one alone but I think my card is one of the sickest supercards in existence using the wrestlers we have available. -- I disbanded the Can-Ams and gave the Rougeaus the opening tag. I gave Beefcake & Herc a make-shift suck tag team to free up Valentine and you can still have the Beefcake face turn when Herc turns on Beefcake. Haynes and Zenk suck but I book this match for 3 minutes tops. -- Instead of Jake jobbing to Honky, I have him go against Reed in a Mid South throwback. -- The Tito vs. Greg feud finally reaches an end in a first blood match and Mania rematch from the first show. -- Before intermission, I give you Martel vs. Race in a similar fashion as the AWA baseball park match. A wild brawl with big bombs between two former world champions -- After intermission, we have the Mania we know and love except I made the six man tag an eight man tag. We have the Hart Family vs. The Animals. You can give Honky or Davis a win against Koko. You still get a pretty good match out of it and you limit JYD to a tag.

WrestleMania 2 Ricky Steamboat vs. Bret Hart Randy Savage vs. George Steele (IC Title) Battle Royale: Andre the Giant, Ted Arcidi, Tony Atlas, Brian Blair, George Wells, Hercules Hernandez, Hillbilly Jim, King Tonga, Jim Neidhart, Bruno Sammartino, Danny Spivey, John Studd, Jimbo Covert, Bill Fralic, Russ Francis, Ernie Holmes, Harvey Martin, William Perry, Don Muraco, Uncle Elmer, King Kong Bundy, Cpl Kirschner, Nikolai Volkoff, Pedro Morales Iron Sheik vs. Mr. T The British Bulldogs vs. Greg Valentine & Brutus Beefcake (Tag Title) Intermission: Adrian Adonis vs. Jim Brunzell Terry & Dory Funk vs. Junkyard Dog & Tito Santana Fabulous Moolah vs. Velvet McIntyre (Woman’s Title) Roddy Piper vs. Paul Orndorff Hulk Hogan vs. Jake Roberts (World Title This card was fun to put together because, using my rules, I could just throw people in the Battle Royal. -- The original plan for Mania was Steamboat vs. Hart so I have this opening the card and it would have been much better than Orndorff-Muraco. -- I kept Savage vs. Steele even though it pains me because Savage could have had an awesome match somewhere. However, this was a hot TV feud so I kept it. -- Sheik vs. T is a follow-up from the tag match at Mania I and Sheik makes T humble. -- The Bulldogs tag and Funks tag were good matches on the show so I kept them on there since they are already guaranteed to deliver. -- I like Jim Brunzell so much from his AWA days that I have a throwback match to East/West vs. High Flyers -- On the 80s project, PIper vs. Orndorff had some really exciting and fun brawls so I make this the semi-main. -- Hogan vs. Jake would have been hard to pull off because Jake had just arrived. If he arrives 2 or 3 months earlier then it works out better as it could have been Jake who gives Hogan a DDT on the concrete. The promos would have been insane. Hogan would have his face bandaged for 2 months. Cage or no cage... it doesn't matter. This would have been much hotter than Hogan-Bundy.

I get what you are saying but I only used wrestlers who appeared on the actual card. I didn't want a tag match for the main event so I put T with JYD. T could still escort Hogan to the ring but under my own personal rules for the project, T had to wrestle in a match. Borne/Rose would have been fine. This is still the era where we had just had North/South, the Briscoes and other tag teams still dominating the tag division.

Without a doubt, Wrestlemania 2. My parents bought the PPV for me as a kid and I have always had a soft spot for the entire card.