goodhelmet

Set it up Matt!!!

From my Buddy set... The Executioner vs. Tito Santana (Mania 3/31/85) - WWF jobber early on Buddy Rose vs. Steve Simpson (Portland 5/18/85) Buddy Rose Interview (Portland 5/18/85) Portland Talk Show w/ Buddy Rose & Mega Maharishi (Portland 5/85) Buddy Rose vs. Roddy Piper (Portland 5/21/85) Buddy Rose vs. Steve Pardee (Portland 6/29/85) Buddy Rose & Mega Maharishi Interview (Portland 6/29/85) Buddy Rose & Mega Maharishi Interview (Portland 7/6/85) Buddy Rose & Mega Maharishi Interview (1985) - Went back to Portland but we jhave very little Portland 1985 footage. Buddy Rose & Ox Baker + Austin Idol (ICW 1985) Buddy Rose vs. Billy Jack Haynes (Florida 8/85) Buddy Rose vs. Tyree Pride (Arena Clips) (Florida 11/85) - He had a cup of coffee in ICW and then went to Florida where we have little footage.

You and I were watching two different shows.

If a really long, extended peak was all that matters, Buddy Rose would have been a part of the podcast but Loss hasn't seen enough Buddy Rose to take part in that conversation. Buddy had a crazy great peak from 1977-984 and then was in one of the best tag teams of the year in 1986. The only reason we don't include 1985 is because of a lack of footage.

We all do. I'll rewatch it again though.

I have seen too many shitty WCW PPVs with the heels going over every time to be upset about the babyfaces winning an entire card.

Eh, the worst part was the table collapsing. Besides that, I didn't notice the Rock looking lethargic or lost or anything like that. The work was smart for the most part. No complaints.

The Rock vs. CM Punk - I Thought this was heads and shoulders above Cena-Rock from last year's Mania. From Punk working on Rock's "internal injuries" to Rock attacking Punk's leg. The wacky finish was to be expected but I really enjoyed the match overall.

I disliked it because it wasn't very good.

I think this sums it up nicely!!!

Royal Rumble MATCH - I thought this was a super fun Rumble. With maybe an exception or two (Titus), I think they used everyone the right way. The Kofi chair trick was not as cool as the handstand but the Kane-Bryan elimination was gold. The final six looked great in an anyone can win this vibe. I am apathetic when it comes to Cena winning but nothing can stop destiny.

That Kane-Bryan spot was awesome!!!!

Why don't I remember Jericho vs. Ziggler?

I laugh at all of you... Lawler is greater than both

Hell NO vs. Rhodes Scholars - I enjoyed this. Everything looked good until the awkward neckbreaker thing from Sandow. It feels like these guys have an epic tag team in them but I don't know if WWE will ever let them have it. Still, enjoyable tag and so far, so good.

If anyone argued that Flair didn't get it, I would disagree with that. Flair has plenty of good matches and good performances in the 90s. The difference is that in the 90s, it wasn't nearly as close to a sure thing that a Flair match was going to deliver. Surely you're not arguing that Flair was terrible after his best years were over. I thought the argument was just that Funk was better, not that Flair was awful. My argument was never about the 90s but the 00s where Flair was in Dylan's words "The worst wrestler in the world" in 2003 and 2004. In the 90s, I agree that all three had highlights and lowlights. It is in the 00s that Lawler, Tenryu, Casas etc. shine as old men.

The SD! match had the advantage of being an upset for ADR and the crowd probably had no idea he was going to win. This one, we expected ADR to win.

The Big Show vs. Alberto Del Rio (Last Man Standing) - Really fun match because Big Show excels at these matches where you see if the opponent can survive the finisher. Some good bumps by both guys and the finish was hokey but unique so I'll take it. Good start to the PPV. Not a MOTYC but enjoyable either way.

Leave him out of the Windham conversation unless there are some cool Big Bubba vs. Windham matches.

Create a Bossman thread or start talking about Barry Windham.

Check out this show from Ft. Worth from 1983... 9/5/83 Fort Worth Terry Gordy & Buddy Roberts & Michael Hayes beat Kerry & Kevin & David Von Erich David Von Erich beat Terry Gordy Kevin Von Erich beat Jimmy Garvin dq Country Whipping Match Kerry Von Erich beat Michael Hayes Lumberjack Match Bruiser Brody beat Kamala dq Iceman Parsons beat Buddy Roberts att: 12,000 Three of the matches appeared on the Texas 80s set and all three hit the top half... #19 - Freebirds vs. Von Erichs Six Man #35 - David Von Erich vs. Terry Gordy #64 - Michael Hayes vs. Kerry Von Erich We also had Bruiser Brody vs. Kamala nominated but it missed the final cut. I don't know if we have these Kevin Von Erich vs. Jimmy Garvin and Buddy Roberts vs. Iceman Parsons on tape but both were highly entertaining feuds for the time but for the sake of accuracy, I am not going to act as if they were good matches. Still, for what we have seen, this is one high powered show. Bruiser Brody vs. Kamala (Lumberjack Match) KRIS Z: This again is a war from the bell which was expected from these two. Brody juices early and often and it's funny seeing a very young John Tatum as a lumberjack. Kamala was awesome here bumping and selling for Brody and these two really meshed well together as Brody had experience with Abby but Kamala was more athletic at this time. The crowd was really hot for Brody here especially when he made his comeback. The finish was screwy as Brody would get his ass kicked by the heel lumberjacks forcing a DQ but this was a Brody match so DQ's are the norm. The finish didn't bother me at all and I think this deserves a nomination for the blood and hatred. Michael Hayes vs. Kerry Von Erich (Country Whipping Match) Man, what more could you ask for besides some blood? Dudes whipping each other with leather, Hayes choking the fuck out of Kerry, both guys laying in the sweet punches, Kerry wrapping Hayes leg with a strap for the trip takedown, nuclear crowd heat. Too bad Bronco Lubich whiffed on the pin. That bad ending and lack of blood will keep this out of my top 20 but the whole body was freaking why I love wrestling. Dudes beating the fuck out of each other. David Von Erich vs. Terry Gordy (2/3 Falls) The formula of a long 1st fall with the flash ending is in effect here. Not as solid as the Gordy/Garvin tag but good enough. 2nd fall has Gordy gaining his revenge and using an illegal spike sleeper to take the 2nd fall. Too bad, the 3rd fall has so little time because Gordy attacking the throat lights me up with smiles! After a standoff between Gordy and Chris Adams on the outside, the Buddy Roberts-Chris Adams feud overwhelms the match. David sneaks up behind Gordy with a roll-up for the cheap win. Eh, another weak ending and I was not as satisfied with the whole match like the Garvin/Gordy tag. Lower half. I think I disliked this more than the rest of the voters The Fabulous Freebirds vs. The Von Erichs Early on, I love how Buddy reminds David he can’t apply the claw to the head protector only to get hooked in the stomach claw. Kerry ends up FIP just the way I like it and bonus points for Gordy dropping a rolling senton! Shortly followed by a KAWADA KICK! Badass. The brief moment when Buddy was Heel in Peril was worked well followed by a sweet section where the Birds kept dropping Kevin on his throat. All good. The wild ending was perfect and I will rate this match high on the ballot! OVERALL THOUGHTS: Holy shit, what a great overall TV Taping. Could you imagine being in Ft. Worth grabbing a bag of popcorn with ashes mixed in the butter from the old hag behind the counter smoking her brown cigarettes? On the way to your seat, a fucking urban cowboy mad dogs you for looking at his old lady who wasn't wearing a bra so her nipples are poking out. That is how I imagine Ft. Worth every Friday watching the Freebirds-Von Erichs feud.

Did you just completely ignore my posting guidelines?

Another guy hurt by not having his peak on film.

I think you missed the point completely. Not one person there thought Hickerson was a legit Asian even the announcers. I put together the World Class set. I think I have seen his work there