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I am outside the draft so I get no wrestlers out of the deal. With that said, if ICW collapsed... Memphis is getting the spoils. When Southwest collapsed, World Class benefits. This would be no different. we are already seeing real life get in the way and you never know who is going to maintain and who won't.

This isn't an NWA issue, this is actually a gameplay issue. The thing that bothers me isn't that the names aren't put into a draft but that everyone was on board with the takeover idea and this just interrupts things. Sometimes, lets just leave well enough alone.

Well I didn't call Vince a communist like I did earlier this year on one of these shows but yeah I was disgusted last night yep... you were spitting some lukewarm fire!!!

They don't... lowblow votes according to the wishes of Baba

I voted for the 2nd choice which was already agreed upon by nearly everybody.

Christ, votes take forever too. I think this is one of those times where Wahoo's Leg got lucky that Dylan quit and people should just be happy for him.

Nobody had a problem with the idea when I proposed this just a few days ago.... http://prowrestlingonly.com/index.php?/topic/31443-crazy-idea-hear-it-out/page-2 In my mind, this makes it intriguing to let little territories become stronger territories and you never know when real life is going to hit us up like it did Dylan and knock us out of the loop. You just never know. Some people get lucky, others have to hold out a little longer.

Exactly!

I have no idea what you are talking about. We just had a nice friendly chat about the PPV last night. There wasn't any "Hot fire" or anything.

Heads up... I should be able to put up the 2nd issue a week from now. I have already had a couple of people send "information" on certain territories. Also, remember that you don't have to send in info on only your territory. If you have juicy gossip on another promoter or territory, it will benefit the newsletter.

Fuck yeah.... Fritz is back!!!!

I still like the idea that the sister territory takes over and then the leftover guys get dispersed in the next monthly draft.

Brock Lesnar vs. Seth Rollins oK Fuck This

Kevin Owens vs. John Cena - Early on, Cena is acting like he is getting destroyed but Owens didn’t really do anything to damage the great John Cena. - I will always pop for someone rubbing his forearms across an opponent’s face. - The replay on the DDT looked NASTY - I marked out for the Owens shoulder blocks - I am glad Cena didn’t get the springboard stunner and loved how Owens turned it into a German Suplex / Cannonball combo - This feels like the match where both guys are countering the big moves that worked in the first two matches. - I don’t give a shit… that package drop should have ended the match. - If they are going to play up an injured shoulder then Owens needs to debut a shoulder submission move. - Ugh… that springboard stunner into an Owens lariat spot was lame. - Too bad they went away from the shoulder angle because that package shoulder breaker would have been a great finish… or that Pop up Powerbomb …. Or the Top rope AA… ok we are in overkill mode - Well, I guess the Cena challenge continues. There is no reason for Owens to continue fighting Cena if he isn’t winning. Time to move on.

Brie vs. Sasha vs. Charlotte - Damn… these damn divas with their miscommunication on the big stage. - You can tell the crowd wanted them to success but it wasn’t clicking. - I actually thought Brie looked pretty good executing offense but the crowd wanted nothing to do with her. - Christ, Brie getting kicked off the apron, you can tell everyone was stunned and were wondering if she was ok after that nasty head drop. - This wasn’t a TNA level clusterfuck but it was a mess - Good thing Brie lost because we need a PPV match with the NXT girls without any old blood getting in the way.

Bray Wyatt vs. Roman Reigns - I have to give these guys props… they were just out there beating the shit out of each other. - Right after I said this, they went into a really long headlock sequence. - That was a really great counter to the running dropkick that laid Reigns out on the outside. - Wyatt on offense isn’t always pretty but he has some awesome counters and momentum killers. - It was a cheap win but it looked like Luke Harper to me so I can dig a Roman vs. Harper feud. EDIT: Ok, it was Harper.

Prime Time Players vs. New Day Fun tag match with some awkward moments. I liked Darren Young in the match. I thought he and Big E worked the big guy vs. little guy stuff really well. I don’t know what Titus was doing when he got hit in the head by Xavier. It looked so unnatural and awkward getting in position for the hit, it took me out of the match for a bit. Fun not great and they didn’t use a chinlock!!!!

Man, Darren Young's legs were so shiny I thought they were his tights.

Orton vs. Sheamus I enjoyed this also. I think they could have cut a couple of minutes off but it was fun and Orton is hot in his hometown. It suffered watching it though because I don't care about either guy right now and certainly not against each other.

Barrett vs. R Truth - I don't want to dog these guys because they tried really hard but it just isn't a matchup I want to see right now. Anyway, this felt much better than their previous matches but it was probably the same match with a better ending.

Ignorant? Fuck you. It may seem like a slight but it really isn't. You go in refusing to follow the background Meltzer stuff and giving the company the benefit of the doubt regardless of the circumstances. I am going in completely blind and ignorant on this show, not watching one TV show or keeping up with the backstage news and rumors.

I didn't even know those were scheduled to be programs. In an attempt to enjoy these live shows more, I have tried to become Johnny-ignorant on what is going on in an attempt to enjoy the shows more.

Look, we all play favorites... it is why they are our favorites!!!!! However, Dylan is right. It's the things our favorites do that make them our favorites. It's not the opposite which you implied where we excuse our favorites misgivings because we like them. However, I also outlined in detail for Lawler and Murdoch why I thought they were all time greats. If you choose to ignore those points and continue to beat the drum on confirmation bias because we are all just bigots for our favorites then your loss. i am not going to lose any sleep over you not liking the same wrestling I do. I have enough people working with me on the projects I work on to produce enough quality product that your attempts of trying to discredit me won't hold much weight in the long run.

Who do you have as your Top 5 ECW guys Dylan?

This looks pretty good on paper... Pre-Show: R Truth vs. King Barrett - Garbage. I probably own't tune in to the pre-show. Sheamus vs. Randy Orton - I feel like Sheamus should win but I could see them putting Randy Orton over just because. The match could be really great or just there. Prime Time Players vs. New Day - I like the PTP so I hope they retain. This could be a fun match. Roman Reigns vs. Bray Wyatt - I hope this is a one and done deal and not the beginning of a three month arc. I know people are really high on Reigns as a wrestler and I feel like Wyatt is the perfect opponent to see how good Reigns really is. John Cena vs. Kevin Owens - I don't know how they are playing this. Picking Cena because I still don't believe they are going to push Owens much higher. Brock Lesnar vs. Seth Rollins - I am guessing that the Authority end up costing Brock the match. My hope is that they just have Brock crush Rollins and end the Rollins experiment on top. Are there any other matches I am missing? These are the only 6 official matches on wwe.com.