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First season of Lucha Underground and the second season up to Aztec Warfare. LU's emphasis is on the wrestling style and unique production, but I think it's overlooked just how incredibly good the week-to-week booking was in a traditional pro wrestling sense for the first season and a half or so.
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[1996-08-15-WCW-Clash of the Champions XXXIII] Ric Flair vs Hulk Hogan
tim replied to Loss's topic in August 1996
Yep, agreed with the consensus that this was a fine match but should have been a much bigger match with a more significant build.- 7 replies
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This match was going really great and I was liking it a lot more than their earlier PPV match. Awesome, super energetic opening exchange and then good work with both guys taking turns in control. Ending was too abrupt and looked bad, which is disappointing. This was going toward being one of the best WWF matches of the year.
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Pretty bad match. Giant hulking up could have been cool in front of a responsive audience but it came off lame here. Overall great post-match, though turning on Booty Man was sort of wasted on this crowd. In front of a more traditional crowd it should have gotten over more as a really terrible heel move, here it just seemed irrelevant because the crowd couldn't care less. Spray painting the title was super cool.
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[1996-08-10-WCW-Hog Wild] Scott Hall & Kevin Nash vs Sting & Lex Luger
tim replied to Loss's topic in August 1996
The idea of the NWO having a referee in their pocket is a good one, but man was that a lame ending. Heenan slipping up and saying "let's go Hall," playing it off awkwardly and Tony's reaction was really great, really effective at adding a sense of anyone's loyalty being at doubt. What we see of the match is decent with a good comeback from Sting and Luger. -
This was a good match that I felt got less good as it went on, and by the time it ended I was happy it was over. The landscape is a really cool backdrop for the match though.
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And surely in the Bryan scenario the main event to promote is Bryan/Omega, not Bryan/Cody.
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I don't think there's anything wrong with that. I'd like to see a more vibrant US wrestling scene with more viable alternative. I appreciate the ambition of something like this and hope they succeed; probably a lot of people who would go to the show if it actually managed to get close to those numbers would be going largely for that reason.
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It's been one hell of a G1 and at this point I'm actually sucked into the gravitas of this being the final. As far as the work goes, I don't really think this was that good -- but it doesn't really matter, the atmosphere and crowd heat carry it. Fujinami firing Choshu up was one hell of a high spot and Choshu's comeback worked really well. Nice feel-good post-match celebration.
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Definitely worked as a more traditional "big match" style match than any of the other G1 matches we've seen. In context it really works; I think I liked it much more in context than I would have watching it stand-alone. Crowd was super, super hot, and especially went nuts for the STF, and there was a cool escalation of rule-bending throughout the match. You really get the sense that this is an important, high-stakes match. Muto missing the moonsault ends up actually working really well for the ending -- makes more sense that Chono was able to capitalize and turn the figure four around on him.
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[1996-08-06-NJPW-G1 Climax] Shiro Koshinaka vs Satoshi Kojima
tim replied to Loss's topic in August 1996
I liked this one a whole lot too. Hot finish, bit of a lull in the middle, and then a sprint toward the end with a super ton crowd and great nearfalls. Keep it short enough and that's a great G1 formula. I liked the lariat spots in the beginning and in general Kojima brought it with some nice lariats. Koshinaka actually hits a top rope ass attack that looks really good! Cool ending that is unique in this context.- 5 replies
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The Booty Man and the Booty Babe, this has to be the single lamest act in wrestling history. Another incredible angle for WCW. The Horsemen are the right guys to really take the fight back to the NWO.
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It's a shame the match had to wrap up so abruptly. This wasn't on its way to being any kind of classic, but if they had a couple more minutes to work a good ending stretch it could have been a very satisfying final of the tournament. Mirror exchanges are usually pretty obnoxious but I think it worked here; both guys are masked wrestlers in wild getups working an unorthodox lucharesu style -- distinct from everyone else, except each other. The matwork didn't display much virtuosity to say the least but was fast paced and felt scrappy. I thought what we got was good.
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[1996-08-05-NJPW-G1 Climax] Keiji Muto vs Shiro Koshinaka
tim replied to Loss's topic in August 1996
The struggle over the sharpshooter in the beginning was a nice piece of matwork. They botch a rope-running exchange and the match gets bogged down for a while after that, but once they get into trading big moves it's an awesome sprint to the end. Koshinaka gets a number of awesome nearfalls that the crowd totally buys, and Koshinaka's sense of urgency is great and really makes the match feel like a bigger deal. This ended up being another very good G1 match.- 11 replies
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This match ruled, as you should expect. This is a short version of their match, which is cool to see. They bring everything you expect -- nasty strikes, gritty mat work and some big pro wrestling spots. There's an especially great strike exchange toward the end that sees Ikeda land one of the better wrestling slaps you'll ever see. Ishikawa really kills Ikeda for the win.
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[1996-08-04-NJPW-G1 Climax] Shinya Hashimoto vs Hiroyoshi Tenzan
tim replied to Loss's topic in August 1996
G1 upset! Very impressive match, simple psychology executed very well and came off feeling very unique. Tenzan is all about targeting Hashimoto's knee, which has already been established as a weakness this year. Tenzan can't match Hashimoto's power, but he goes after the knee unceasingly. Hashimoto's performance is just great, getting over the story with really good selling and of course bringing the ferocity when he gets offense in. Hashimoto gets a string of moves going but collapses when trying to lift Tenzan, and then Tenzan just assaults the knee non-stop until he gets a pin no one expected. Really cool match and great Hashimoto performance.- 8 replies
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[1996-08-05-NJPW-J*Crown] Ultimo Dragon vs Shinjiro Otani
tim replied to Loss's topic in August 1996
For me this didn't live up to being a top-notch classic. Too much a match of two parts; very much a sort of juniors match with an extended opening/matwork section that isn't really anything special, then a quick shift of gears into lots of big moves a nearfalls (although the magistral teases in the very beginning were very good, and paid off awesomely with the magistral nearfall). But the matwork section was by no means bad, and the run of big moves and nearfalls was really outstanding. And man did the crowd come alive once the match shifted into that gear, they went nuts for everything. The front suplex counter from the top was an awesome spot, perfect to lead into the finish. The early Magistral teases were awesome and everything from Ultimo's springboard dropkick on was incredible juniors action. What happens in between is perfectly fine, good at times, but nothing special. Overall a great match for sure, but not one of the elite matches of the year.- 13 replies
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[1996-08-03-ECW-The Doctor Is In] Sabu vs Rob Van Dam (Stretcher)
tim replied to Loss's topic in August 1996
This was reasonably entertaining for what it was. They have two previous matches I like better. This felt sort of tame in comparison to those actually, which isn't too good for a stipulation pay-off. The thing about a match like this is you want the ending to be a real exclamation mark, but since the whole feud is build around tossing out big spots left and right, that's hard to pull off. It's hard not to call this an effective feud -- it established RVD, produced matches that I still find entertaining now and were clearly very well received by the audience. That said, I hope it's over.- 11 replies
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[1996-08-03-ECW-The Doctor Is In] Chris Jericho vs 2 Cold Scorpio
tim replied to Loss's topic in August 1996
Man Scorpio is so much better than Jericho in 96. This is a good match which does drag a bit toward the end, though the out of nowhere shooting star press for the finish kind of makes up for it. There is this one exchange toward the beginning where they each put the other in a nutty submission like something out of a Negro Navarro/Solar match.- 6 replies
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[1996-08-03-NJPW-G1 Climax] Kazuo Yamazaki vs Shiro Koshinaka
tim replied to Loss's topic in August 1996
I'm loving Yamazaki this year. This match was really good and Yamazaki again brought a unique feel to it. Koshinaka suddenly going back to the fingers to get out of the German suplex was a mark out moment, really well done, the kind of call back you don't see coming. Yamazaki continues to sell the hand for the rest of the match. Good kicks from Yamazaki, especially that first one to the jaw, and the crowd really exploded when he locked in his first out of nowhere armbar. I was rooting to Yamazaki throughout this.- 6 replies
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[1996-08-02-ECW-Plymouth Meeting, PA] Chris Jericho vs Sabu
tim replied to Loss's topic in August 1996
This match more than wore out its welcome. I don't think it was that actively bad, it just got to the point of feeling like two guys doing things with no sense of momentum to the match. Too much of a wrestling match without enough parts "Sabu match." -
[1996-08-02-NJPW-G1 Climax] Riki Choshu vs Shinya Hashimoto
tim replied to Loss's topic in August 1996
One of those simple, hard-hitting NJPW heavyweight matches with big names and just doesn't exist as a style anymore. This really felt like the two toughest guys in the world duking it out, every strike hit with force and the selling was very believable. They work evenly at the beginning but Hashimoto just overwhelms Choshu eventually; at one point you can see Choshu keep trying to catch Hashimoto's kicks but they're just too powerful for him to grab a hold of the leg. Choshu's comeback is awesome with stiff lariats and a superplex that felt like a major highspot. Microstats has a good point about the theatrical element of the finishing stretch, but in the best way; it really felt like a climactic end to a war between two larger than life asskickers.- 14 replies
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