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I think the execution behind these segments has been really good so far. They didn't work, but I don't think it was because of a lack of trying.
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Who looks at Greg Valentine and decides that he needs to start dressing more like the Honky Tonk Man? I know they needed something to do with Honky around this time, and they needed something to do with Valentine, and Valentine was good in tag teams, but...this doesn't really work.
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Gotta love this cutting edge satellite technology that allows Sting and Ole to talk to each other without being in the same room. What will they think of next? Sting was high energy and excited and Ole was calm and evil, so both got across the points they were looking to get across.
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This boggles my mind. I mean, all TNA does is produce television!
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It's really remarkable how different this is from most Hogan WWF matches. No "Hulk Up," no legdrop finish, no pretense of Hogan playing by the rules, Hogan trading holds (!)...I think that's what makes this stand out. As much as I think a Hogan/Hansen series would have been fun, I think I'm with jdw on this one. They had their one match with a clean finish on a big show that will be remembered for years. Why water it down with a series that would have been fraught with booking complications and that would have been held back by the WWF house style of the late 80's?
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[1990-04-13-WWF/AJPW Summit] Ultimate Warrior vs Ted DiBiase
Cox replied to Loss's topic in April 1990
DiBiase lays out the simplest match he can to get through something watchable with Warrior. Not a memorable outing, but one with interesting crowd responses for sure.- 13 replies
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[1990-04-13-WWF/AJPW Summit] Randy Savage vs Genichiro Tenryu
Cox replied to Loss's topic in April 1990
I saw this match listed on the Yearbook and instantly circled this as something I wanted to watch. I was not disappointed at all. Fun little match. Savage works his ass off and Tenryu fits in with the WWF style better than I'd have thought. This makes me wonder what an extended Tenryu run in the WWF would have looked like after SWS went down. Probably would have been a waste of his career, but there's still a better than 20% chance it would have been pretty fun, right?- 19 replies
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What is shown here is not terribly exciting. Both men would go on to bigger and better things in the decade ahead (only a slight understatement).
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Loved the line about Chris Champion's hair being so long, Moses couldn't part it. Good local promo to build up Evansville.
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Every time I see these, I'm amazed. I had no idea Tony Atlas was EVER a good promo. Yet somehow he had runs with WWF and WCW in the next 2+ years and was never able to recapture this in either run (granted, it would have been pretty fuckin' hard for him to do anything with the Saba Simba gimmick). That's too bad.
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[1990-04-07-USWA-Memphis TV] Jerry Lawler Loves Wrestling Fans
Cox replied to Loss's topic in April 1990
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Oh, and one other thing; I always liked how people treated Parts Unknown like it was a real place. I was reminded of that during Rude's promo talking about traveling to Parts Unknown. They take this boilerplate phrase used to explain not giving a hometown for strange or mythical-type characters, and to his credit, Warrior owned it as if it was where he lived when he wasn't wrestling in the WWF. This is literally the only positive thing I will say for Warrior.
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Good segment, the first of what I seem to recall were a lot of these. I'm with Pete, Rude needed one quality program pre-Wrestlemania to really make him a threat for Warrior. The Piper program had mostly fizzled out by the start of 1990, and lord knows Piper wasn't going to put over Rude at Wrestlemania (which is why I assume they didn't have a match). Nobody except Young 10 Year Old Cox expected Jimmy Snuka to beat Rick Rude at Wrestlemania VI. He needed a big win on somebody higher on the totem pole, and while the natural program of Rude beating for the IC title made sense, I don't think he was seen on Warrior's level, which was the first step towards Warrior's title reign dying on the vine.
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[1990-04-06-NWA-Power Hour] Louisville Slugger: Ric Flair & Woman
Cox replied to Loss's topic in April 1990
I didn't know this made TV, as Cornette's book made it sound more like a pitch he made than a direction they had started to go in. Anyway, this was fine but nothing more, I assume included more because it was mentioned in Cornette's book and because it's another example of the start/stop mentality WCW would become famous for. -
I think this was a case of there being something of a language or cultural barrier here, as I had trouble following along with the restarts, which seemed to take forever. The action itself was quite good, and quite bloody, but the stops were a real killer for me. Maybe that's on me for not understanding what was going on, but it still made it difficult for me to really enjoy this.
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[1990-04-01-WWF-Wrestlemania VI] Hulk Hogan vs Ultimate Warrior
Cox replied to Loss's topic in April 1990
I think this is one of the best announced matches in the first 6 or so years of WWF PPVs. That's not saying much, but Ventura got off a lot of great lines (the Richard Belzer line, pointing out all of the times Hulk Hogan has benefit from ref bumps) and in general, I think not having to play heel worked to his advantage here. I don't know that I have anything else to say about the match that hasn't been said a hundred times before. It's probably the best possible match these two could have had, and the way it was laid out, Clash of the Titans-style, to play to a big crowd, and a match that could play to the absolute back row of a stadium, is very impressive. Warrior deserves a lot of credit for getting Hogan up for the Gorilla Press, especially having worked a long match (no snarky comment about it being long for a Warrior match; this was legit a long match. I wouldn't call it anything close to one of the best matches of the year, but I think I'd safely call it good. But thank God they didn't work the rematch at Wrestlemania VII as was planned. I would have had no desire to watch these guys cut promos on each other on the 1991 Yearbook after watching the build to this. -
Ultimate Warrior is hilariously self-absorbed by kicking Sean Mooney out of the room for being a mere normal. Did the WWF think this was going to be the way to get a large part of their fanbase to relate to this guy when he was champion? Not that Hulk Hogan is anymore relatable at this point, mind you.
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Great, great promo by Jake before the match. They just don't do 'em like that anymore. They pretty much pay this feud off perfectly. DiBiase keeps the belt under shady circumstances (and really, Jake as Million Dollar Champion after this feud doesn't make much sense), but Jake gets the last laugh by leaving DiBiase laying, giving away his cash, and stuffing a $100 bill down his throat. Nice work by Jake kissing Mary Tyler Moore's ass, though. Was she just there as a fan? I don't remember WWF billing her as one of the celebrities of record pre-Wrestlemania, and they were hyping somebody named Rona Barrett, so you have to think if they knew Mary Tyler Moore was going to be there, they would have played that for all it was worth. But it seems to me that she would be a wrestling fan.
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[1990-04-01-WWF-Wrestlemania VI] Steve Allen and the Bolsheviks
Cox replied to Loss's topic in April 1990
Say what you will about Boris Zhukov, but at least he can put "Worked with Steve Allen at Wrestlemania" on his wrestling resume, which is more than a lot of folks can say. Sure, it's just about the only thing on his resume, but it's still better than, say, Lance Storm, who never even got to work on a main card at Wrestlemania. -
[1990-04-01-WWF-Wrestlemania VI] Wrestlemania VII commercial
Cox replied to Loss's topic in April 1990
I remember seeing the commercial for Wrestlemania VII at the LA Memorial Coliseum for months and months, which I guess should a pretty big hint that ticket sales were slow. For some reason, I didn't even notice on show day that the event was taking place inside of an arena and not inside a cavernous football stadium, but I guess Young 11 Year Old Cox cared more about Hogan vs Slaughter and Savage vs Warrior than he did about what venue the show was taking place in. -
[1990-04-01-WWF-Wrestlemania VI] Demolition vs Andre the Giant & Haku
Cox replied to Loss's topic in April 1990
Man, it's just not the same without the Demolition theme music. At the risk of incurring the wrath of some of the folks on this board, the Demolition music was at least 50% of what made them so cool when I was a kid. The post match was a nice way for Andre's WWF career to end, with him going out as a babyface embarrassing Bobby Heenan. The match itself...eh, it's hard to even call it his last match since he does so little, but I'm guessing most of the Demolition/Colossal Connection matches on the road were similar. But the man was a physical mess at this point and would be dead within three years, so it's hard to blame him.- 11 replies
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What's the deal with Kurisu? He comes into this match dressed like a 10th grade math teacher and kind of takes bumps like a 10th grade math teacher too. I am intrigued by his mere existence. But I echo what everybody else says about this. Great brawl. I haven't seen much FMW, but in spite of this, Onita is probably one of my favorite people in wrestling ever, between the brawls, the explosion matches, the crying promos, the getting elected to political office, and everything else. I should probably watch more FMW.
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That reminds me of something that Mick Foley wrote in his first book about Lex Luger checking to see if Ole Anderson had an erection after the first Vader/Cactus match...despite the fact that Luger was The Narcissist in the WWF at that point.
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[1990-03-31-TWA-Spring Spectacular] Jerry Lawler vs Kerry Von Erich
Cox replied to Loss's topic in March 1990
I liked this. I thought there was a story here, that Lawler was afraid of Von Erich, so first he resorts to stalling to stay as far away from him as possible, then he resorts to using the chain, then when he loses the chain and is trapped in the clawhold about to lose the title, he uses the one trick he has left, throwing fire, to get DQ'd and keep the title. It wasn't anything out of this world, but it was a fun house show match for two guys working outside of their territory that sets up a rematch if TWA wants to run one down the line.- 10 replies
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